yeah i have not heard all of this yet but hearing the ... the righteous anger one, on FMU was kinda instantly mindblowing in a way that nothing else new has been for awhile.
― your LiveJournal experience (schlump), Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
an intense, physical solo-no-overdubs sax record with all sorts of innovation is pretty much exactly what i didn't know i needed in 2011 but am finding utterly compelling in 2011 (possibly in conjunction w/ this exercise: Rolling 2011 thread where I buy and listen to jazz albums for the first time ever)
gorgeous artwork, too
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
whoops, guess you guys can read the constellation press quotes alongside the image! didn't know they came together ;_;
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (justin vernon) (BON IVER), Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:46 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
― your LiveJournal experience (schlump), Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
haha
i had a brief o_O moment when i thought "lol bon iver/arcade fire" etc. but then set it aside and listened to the stetson record and holy shit, any ppl who despise AF/vernon/etc. and avoid this b/c of the association are missing out on something very different and awesome
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
btw, the sax on Tom Waits' 00s records (alice, blood money, orphans)? apparently that's this dude
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
but then set it aside and listened to the stetson record and holy shit, any ppl who despise AF/vernon/etc. and avoid this b/c of the association are missing out on something very different and awesome
wordi figured this was some astral thing from 1972 when i heard it; have suspicious feelings about constellation but this is something else
xpost does this mean he is the guy who ruined jesus gonna be here with a shitty sax solo when i saw tom waits
― your LiveJournal experience (schlump), Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
thing is though that Stetson is far from being alone in solo sax innovation, Mats Gustafsson has been doing wonders like this for years but gets pigeonholed as a jazzman so doesn't really count... not demeaning Stetson for one moment b/c I still think what he's doing is good but the idea that he is the only person playing out-there solo sax is just w/e
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
this is indeed amazing. like it a lot.
― m the g, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
Mats Gustafsson has been doing wonders like this for years
yes-- i've dipped my toes into gustafsson thanks to HOOS raving on the jazz thread-- cosign!
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
so psyched that people are discovering this
hits me more deeply with every listenoof
someone was pointing out how harmonically (or, i guess, chordally?) this isn't that adventurous - but in that sense it's more like the blues, the agony and yearning of the interpretation/performance, not the intricacy of the notes. (that said, it is hilarious to call this anything less than intricate.)
― sean gramophone, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
am happy to be a gauge of jazzbo permeation into the indie-sphere, here. i don't know that guy, will check him out.
― your LiveJournal experience (schlump), Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, the AF/Bon Iver connections hopefully won't hurt folks listening to this. Pretty incredible stuff on first listen. Love this:
And thanks for the Mats Gustafsson recommendation. Heard the name, never listened to the music. Starting points?
― matt2, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
Brings to mind this masterful-ness a bit:
― matt2, Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
Gustafsson works a lot of the time in groups, The Thing would be his main vehicle for group work and anything by them is totally recommended. His solo album The Vilnius Implosion from a couple of years ago is also very fine. Here he is in solo mode:
Evan Parker is also a name to be checked out, his solo circular breathing excursions are pretty phenomenal as seen here:
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Thursday, 3 March 2011 16:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
Thanks for those anagram. I definitely prefer the "warmth" that I feel from the Colin Stetson and Evan Parker stuff to the sound of that one Gustafsson clip. I will investigate more.
― matt2, Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
Okay, I have listened through this several more times and the overriding feeling is that I absolutely love it...except for basically any of the vocals. To my ears, they completely mar this otherwise magnificent album. Instrumental version?
― matt2, Friday, 4 March 2011 15:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
i do think laurie's vocals are mixed a bit high, but y'know... nothing's perfect
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 4 March 2011 15:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, but this album feels like it would've been nearly perfect without those vocals;).
― matt2, Friday, 4 March 2011 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink
This is pretty much amazingly amazin
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 7 March 2011 14:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
played this again today. still gets better each time i hear it. far and away the best thing i've heard in 2011, can't imagine another album would overtake it by year's end. if it does, it'll be a VERY good year...
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Monday, 7 March 2011 15:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
I like Laurie's spoken word on thisIt's mixed really great on headphones, one mic hard left, one mic hard right, Laurie up the middle
― Odult Ariented Rock (Ówen P.), Monday, 7 March 2011 17:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
Colin Stetson! I used to bump elbows w/ this dude back when he used to play house-parties in Ann Arbor w/ a crazy psychedelic free-jazz outfit called Transmission (this being 10-15 years ago). I had heard about his many high-profile collabs, but I will def have to check this thing out..
Of the other sax dudes mentioned itt, I'm def also down w/ Mats Gustafsson & Peter Brötzmann
― Space // Funk (Pillbox), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 05:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
He reincarnated that band or moved it when he moved to the Bay Area.
― sarahel, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 05:38 (2 years ago) Permalink
I'm pretty sure he took the name & maybe a couple players. I remember him coming back through the midwest in the early 00s w/ an outfit called the Transmission Trio - anyway, here's this: http://listenlabs.com/transmission.html
― Space // Funk (Pillbox), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 05:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah, I remember seeing the Transmission Trio at least once.
― sarahel, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 05:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
The sound on this record is so immense and raw, even though it's got so many more silent moments. I'm bracing myself every single time I put it on, it blows me away.
Best I've heard this year.
― La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 10 March 2011 15:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
it's shaping up to be a frontrunner, for sure. so dense and powerful and unique.
actually love shara woden's vocals on this.
― m the g, Thursday, 10 March 2011 15:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
This is so, so great:
http://vimeo.com/19110127
― La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 17 March 2011 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
Also John Butcher for super-advanced technique allied with great musicality. He does the percussive thing really well, and manipulates feedback through his horn to mindblowing results.
Liking this Stetson record, but it's definitely less free-jazz and more into Terry Riley territory in some respects: the overlapping repetitions and what not.
― Count Palmiro Vicarion (Stew), Thursday, 17 March 2011 18:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
Hey, what's a good John Butcher record to check out? Is it something that translates well to record, or is it best experienced live? Seems like he does a lot of "playing the room/environment", which is something I definitely feel, but obviously can be tough to translate to a recording.
― grandavis, Thursday, 17 March 2011 20:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
i think it depends on who he's playing with. I've seen him do really quiet stuff, but I've also seen him actually play the saxophone.
― sarahel, Thursday, 17 March 2011 20:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
This is so, so good, except for the spoken word parts.
― rock rough 'n' stuff with h.r. pufnstuf (Hurting 2), Saturday, 2 April 2011 20:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
Along similar enough lines, has anybody else on here enjoyed this? http://boomkat.com/downloads/321345-thomas-ankersmit-live-in-utrecht
― Just been offered an interview with him by his manger. (Craig D.), Sunday, 3 April 2011 04:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
this album sounds so good. playing it very loud with the window wide open seems just right for some reason
― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 15:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
A predictably sniffy review in The WIRE which opines that you might like this if you've never heard of Evan Parker despite most other reviews and Stetson himself mentioning him as an influence. I told my mate who's really into free jazz about this and he went berserk about it. Said it was appalling like Hooked On Classics or Jean Michelle Jarre.
― Actual LOL Tolhurst (Doran), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 21:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
what's appalling ? Stetson or the wire ?
― sisilafami, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't think The WIRE's appalling. I've bought it every month for the last decade. I just mean you can often tell in advance when they're going to go, 'No, no, no dear boy! You're doing it all wrong...'
In the rush to decry him as a pale imitation of Evan Parker ("He plays with Arcade Fire... Gosh, how middle brow...") they've missed the revolutionary aspect of what he does, which is the way the album is recorded via scores and scores of contact microphones in single takes.
But no, The WIRE's brilliant, and more importantly, it would cease to be brilliant if it didn't maintain clear distance between what they cover and everything else.
My mate thinks it's appalling which I only mention as I see him as a typical consumer of 'difficult', 'avant garde' music.
― Actual LOL Tolhurst (Doran), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
I love the album. It's one of my favourites of the year so far. I'm currently writing up a feature on Stetson for The Quietus.
― Actual LOL Tolhurst (Doran), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
didn't know there was a thread about this album! such beautiful sounds. I listen to "The Righteous Wrath of an Honorable Man" pretty much every night these days.
― The best solid love doll Candysteen (absolutely clean glasses), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
I could definitely see why such a person would find this album appalling, in that it is neither difficult nor avant garde
― Forget the rest / this breast test is best (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 23:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
I find such people a bit sad.
― mike and the quantum mechanics (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 23:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
they've missed the revolutionary aspect of what he does, which is the way the album is recorded via scores and scores of contact microphones in single takes
But that doesn't affect the way I respond to the album as a listener. As I mentioned upthread I am one of those free jazz fans (also a dedicated Wire reader, btw) who is not bowled over by this album, simply because it doesn't sound all that thrilling or innovative when held up next to Parker or Gustafsson in full flight. Fetishizing the way it was recorded is kind of beside the point imo.
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 07:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
i used to have a regular sunday poker game w/ this dude's younger brother. Colin's career has been on a pretty stellar upward trajectory for quite a while now, but, even so, I would not have expected him to drop an unaccompanied solo record that is inexplicably, completely objectively, my favorite album of 2011 thusfar by a wide margin. I mean, I'm normally not even all that crazy about saxophones in general (or maybe I just haven't been listening to the right things?)
― buhlogna mindstate (Pillbox), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 08:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
i enjoy this record and know nothing about that kind of stuff...
which parker, butcher or gustafsson albums should i be into ?
― sisilafami, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 10:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
But that doesn't affect the way I respond to the album as a listener.
really? i didn't care for this much until i read about how it was recorded, that definitely made me hear it in another way.
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 11:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, not you anagram but anyone from WIREsville who reckons the process or the philosophy isn't important is being a bit rich really. Also given that what he does is at the other end of the sax scale from Mats, isn't it unfair to compare them?
― Actual LOL Tolhurst (Doran), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 11:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
that is the wire praxis though, anything 'mainstream' making experimental claims usually gets shot down. off the top of my head i think of battles "mirrored" which received a poor review when released, but then made its way to their EOY-list anyway... sure there are more recent examples, haven't had subscription for a while though
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 12:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
Fetishizing the way it was recorded is kind of beside the point imo.
not really, if the point of the music is to focus on rhythm and sound (in a very different way than those other solo sax guys)?
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 14:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also given that what he does is at the other end of the sax scale from Mats, isn't it unfair to compare them?
sure their techniques are different but all I said was that it doesn't sound all that thrilling or innovative to me. given that those are the kind of adjectives that are being bandied about in connection with this record I thought the comparison was valid. but yeah Evan Parker would be a better comparison than Gustafsson, both he and Stetson make heavy use of circular breathing for example which Gustafsson doesn't. Parker has that serpentine, fluttery sound which is totally trance-inducing. Stetson can do this up to a point but Parker has been doing it for 40 years.
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 15:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
What I wrote in another jazz thread:
If you like Stetson then you'd be better off going for one of Parker's solo sax recordings like The Snake Decides or Conic Sections. My favourite Parker line-up would be his trio with Barry Guy and Paul Lytton, they've done a number of albums of which At the Vortex (1996) is my favourite. Also key: his trio with Alex von Schlippenbach and Paul Lovens, of which Winterreise comes recommended.
Re Mats Gustafsson, see my post upthread. Not sure about Butcher.
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 15:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Saying both "Evan Parker has done this before" and also "I don't give a shit how it was mic'd" leaves me confused.You're content to write off an artist because you've quickly identified his influences and a key aspect of his technique,But then you claim that people who admire his innovative mic placement and mixing abilities are fetishists.I dunno, I mean, when it comes to circular breathing sax players playing at 200 bpm(Bass sax, in Colin's case), I'm not too hung up on "this has been done before"
― Boehner & der club of GOP (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 15:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also +1 on any recommendation for The Snake Decides and Conic SectionsBut it sounds nothing like Judges, save that it also contains a saxophone
― Boehner & der club of GOP (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 15:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
Well I guess there's a difference between admiring a player's technique and admiring his kit or his set-up. I mean, I like Gilmour solos but I have no idea what kind of guitar he uses or how he makes it sound the way it does. At the end of the day all I'm saying is, if you like Stetson you ought to like Parker.
xp
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 15:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
holy shit dudes, this guy is something to see live. and Owen's right, the mic placement isn't some obscure trainspotting shit, it's an integral part of his sound.
― You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Saturday, 18 June 2011 05:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
IT DOESN'T FUCKING SOUND LIKE AN EVAN PARKER RECORD. YOU ARE BEING BORING. I AM DRUNK. SHUT UP.
― mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Saturday, 18 June 2011 05:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
(xpost)
At the end of the day all I'm saying is, if you like Stetson you ought to like Parker.
I love Stetson and like/respect Evan Parker even more and on a different level, but I do not think this ^ is an accurate statement.
― hay lbj hayyy (absolutely clean glasses), Saturday, 18 June 2011 06:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
Finally getting around to hearing this album and I like it quite a bit, but to echo the thoughts of others I might like it even more without the spoken word bits and vocal parts. I just want to hear this dude play his sax all day long. But I did want to address this point:
I think this is a bit silly and dismissive, particularly wrt to people who aren't up on their Mats or Parker or even Wire. I mean, for someone out there this will be difficult and it may certainly seem avant garde to someone who's coming from, I don't know, Miles Davis as an introduction for them to the possibilities of jazz. I've really liked a lot of what Owen has had to say over the years and totally respect his opinion, but I can't help but sense a bit of the expert sniffing at the newcomer with that, "THIS is NOT difficult nor avant garde". Maybe not to you, but to someone it just might be.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 19:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, but it's just not difficult is it? Some cool teacher in my school used to play shit like Philip Glass and Michael Nyman in assemblies, no one ran out screaming because musically it's quite straightforward and easy to get your head round - even if there is a lot of theory to go with it or knowledge of process to go with it. As is this.
It might sound a bit "odd" at first if you're coming to it not having heard anything similar - a bit inexplicably ragged and harsh but I can't see how that would be a bar to potential enjoyment.
For starters Miles Davis is generally more difficult 'to get' than this surely?
― Death To False Camp (Doran), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 20:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
Of course it's impossible to say really as it's totally subjective etc. but we're really just talking about arpegios and simple note progressions repeated. Or pop music as my WIRE reading mate calls it.
― Death To False Camp (Doran), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 21:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
Well I guess maybe we are working from different ideas of what "difficult" means. I don't think finding something to enjoy in Miles is that tough, especially his more lauded work. There are melodies, solos and other components pretty easy to grab onto, even as a rookie jazz listener. I don't think there is much on the Stetson album that would provide an "easy" entry point for the novice.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 21:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Fair enough. Although I've heard a lot of Miles Davis I only really listen to the electric stuff but I get what you're saying.
― Death To False Camp (Doran), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 21:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
it has tons of melodic and rhythmic repetition, in a way that should definitely make sense to anyone with electronic/dance music ears
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 21:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
Damn
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 11:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah this is cool.
― The Invisible Superstars (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 11:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
this is great stuff, just heard it for the first time last week, it gets better and deeper with each listen
― Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 14:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
new one: so far, so good
― tsarnaev paleface (imago), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 09:17 (1 month ago) Permalink
find it strange that nobody's commented on this already, but then ILM's shift to house and rap exclusivity is almost complete so I barely expect anything else
here's yer stream: http://www.npr.org/2013/04/21/177495625/first-listen-colin-stetson-new-history-warfare-vol-3-to-see-more-light?sc=fb&cc=fmp
― tsarnaev paleface (imago), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 09:20 (1 month ago) Permalink
I'm interested, just been too busy to check it out yet. Thanks for reminding!
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 09:23 (1 month ago) Permalink
super super competentbut can't help but feel a bit let down on this one, on my listens so far.
― sean gramophone, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 14:46 (1 month ago) Permalink
only a matter of time until 'brute' ends up in some manic dubstep mix.
― This Is Not An ILX Username (LaMonte), Saturday, 11 May 2013 00:22 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
I didn't listen to this cuz the idea of all the celebrity guest vox turned me off
― jay-z's ansari (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 11 May 2013 00:42 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
the laurie anderson guest spots are pretty cringey, but it really doesn't take up much of the record
― THIS IS NOT A BENGHAZI T-SHIRT (Hurting 2), Saturday, 11 May 2013 00:50 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
oh lol wait so there's a new one? nm
― THIS IS NOT A BENGHAZI T-SHIRT (Hurting 2), Saturday, 11 May 2013 01:17 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
hmm so yeah this first track -- who is that singing? I don't hate this, but I'm a little tired of the abundance of exuberant close harmony singing I've been hearing lately in indie stuff
― THIS IS NOT A BENGHAZI T-SHIRT (Hurting 2), Saturday, 11 May 2013 01:19 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
this is good though. I think he belongs much more to steve reich/bang on a can and to the new agey end of noise than he does to jazz or free jazz.
― THIS IS NOT A BENGHAZI T-SHIRT (Hurting 2), Saturday, 11 May 2013 01:20 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
the singer is the bon hiver guy unfortunately
― This Is Not An ILX Username (LaMonte), Saturday, 11 May 2013 03:55 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
was intrigued by the prospect of a new stetson LP until I heard that bon iver was doing vocals on some songs. maybe I'm awful, but there it is.
― Millsner, Saturday, 11 May 2013 05:01 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
W/e I will still listen to it. I have never knowingly heard a note of BI
― Drugs A. Money, Saturday, 11 May 2013 07:02 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
I listened to it a lot when NPR was streaming it and really enjoy it. I wouldn't say that I love the vocals but I didn't see them as a problem at all. The Bang on a Can comparison makes sense to me. I hadn't seen this thread before. I had no idea that people compared him to Evan Parker. That comparison seems pretty wrong to me, unless Parker has some more pattern-based work that I'm unfamiliar with.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 May 2013 07:24 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
heard this in other music the other day and ended up buying it; the first time i've bought a record due to hearing it in a shop in years. didn't notice any evan parkerisms.
― stirmonster, Saturday, 11 May 2013 07:28 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
this is real raw/feel good shit, the new one. i think bon iver is only on a couple tracks. it reminds me of phillip glass, but sort of a blues take. kinda mono-themed. it sounds nothing like evan parker
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 11 May 2013 07:58 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
some of the saxophone stuff sounds like an upright bass. i don't know if he close-mics parts of the instrument, or if there's extra-instrumental layering or what, but at times it recalls a cello sound or something deep, bowed. think of john cale's electrified viola, loose, looping repggios driving the tunes.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 11 May 2013 08:17 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
err, repggios
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 11 May 2013 08:18 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
the bon iver dude sounds like tv on the radio or some shit. generic. fuck, fleet foxes, all that shit blends in. i guess bon iver got a signature sound or whatever, but i don't recognize it. sorry, bad tangent.
there's some resonant, affecting, hear my train-a-coming shit on this new one. or maybe that's thom yorke
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 11 May 2013 08:34 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
I should probably get into this dude.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 11 May 2013 09:40 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
The big criticism of Stetson isn't that he sounds like Evan Parker but that he's using the same techniques to do something 'less interesting' or 'less valid' (ie free improv). The trouble with this attack on Stetson is that it ignores his real innovation, which is in recording and mixing the multiple channels from a single take by the use of lots of contact mics - which are placed all over his instrument, him and the room. This is how he ends up with such a massive sound on what is, ostensibly, a solo live saxophone album with a guest vocal. But some critics are all too happy to ignore this because it stands in the way of what they feel they have to do, which is to sneer at an 'indie guy' doing it all wrong.
The Bon Iver guy ruins the new one for me though.
― Doran, Saturday, 11 May 2013 10:26 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
waaaaaaaay too much bon iver. i feel like i'm slighting stetson by being so dismissive, but that guy's fey voice is such a turnoff for me. not so much on that song where he screams, but his voice is just incapable of doing the same kind of heavy-lifting as a laurie anderson or a shara worden.
― borntohula, Saturday, 11 May 2013 16:13 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
http://youtu.be/Tu9Qj1ZekSI
i think it's stetson on "brute" ... not sure if that's the song you're referencing tho
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 12 May 2013 03:43 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
it's bon iver on "brute". i think his voice works really well on that one, possibly because i'd never have known it was his voice if i hadn't read it on the sleeve.
― stirmonster, Sunday, 12 May 2013 05:02 (2 weeks ago) Permalink