Bogart learns to love La Resistance: Casablanca vs To Have And Have Not

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perhaps costume will show off breeder hips

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 26 February 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, the Marseillaise scene makes me cry every time

this is one of the best bits

THAHN is not ALL about sassy seduction - the main love-story is underplayed slightly (the kisses are passionate but fleeting) and the seduction stands for something grander and more escapist about grasping the moment. Plus, when the French couple come in later, injured and tired and deadly serious, there's grit and worry all right, just that it doesn't dominate the mood - it places bogart'n'bacall's happy-go-lucky shenanigans in perspective and gives the picture a more rounded feel

Did not know about the Curtiz remake. Probably owe it a watch now.

acoleuthic, Saturday, 26 February 2011 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I've got it straight now with regards to Mildred Pierce: with rest of world, not underrated; on ILX, underrated.

clemenza, Saturday, 26 February 2011 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Surprisingly, I couldn't find any Bogart threads (perhaps time for a poll?), but I'm reviving just to post this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqoxk3SrZRw

Damn.

Vini Reilly Invasion (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 7 May 2012 06:10 (eleven years ago) link

Boo! Anyway, it was the bookstore scene from The Big Sleep with Dorothy Malone.

Vini Reilly Invasion (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 7 May 2012 06:11 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Only watched African Queen for the first time the other day and it completely changed my perception of Bogie. He's so goofy in it!

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

btw that second go at THAHN, The Breaking Point w/ John Garfield, Phyllis Thaxter and Patricia Neal, is amazingly good.

When you see a '40s vehicle of Bogart's like Dead Reckoning come up second-rate, you realize how great the great stuff was.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 August 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link

four years pass...

watched CASABLANCA last night for the first time in years. few other films are so easily affecting: ilsa’s first appearance, rick’s drunken reminiscing, that rendition of “la marseillaise”...
fuck nazis!!

k3vin k., Saturday, 25 May 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link

As I said in another Casablanca thread, several impressions why it is wonderful, but not exactly perfect:

  • Fabulous photography!!! Moody, striking, atmospheric, dramatic - the whole ball of wax.
  • The plot is total cornball, but the pacing and dialogue are so crisp that you never have time to dwell on the silliness of it all. Each vignette is a perfect little bon-bon of entertainment. No waste. No chewing necessary.
  • Claude Rains was having a ball and so were the scriptwriters for him. Every line he spoke was a gem. Probably a commentary on Hollywood studios in there.
  • Not a good scenery-chewing Nazi to be found anywhere, just the ho-hum cardboard kind.
  • It is very rainy and foggy in Morrocco. Who knew?

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 26 May 2019 02:48 (four years ago) link

It is very rainy and foggy in Morrocco. Who knew?

Prior to climate change altering things everywhere, Casablanca has slightly higher average rainfall than Southern California does.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 26 May 2019 03:37 (four years ago) link


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