"If That Arm Heals, It Ought To Be Broken Again" 2008 Jazz D Minor Bags Thread

Is that Cave as in Caveau de la Huchette?

Or is "Cave 17" the title of an unreleased Johnny Paycheck song?

Here's a hint: Mel Brooks.

2,000 Year Old Man?

ding

Was that where the ladies were?

http://www.woebot.com/2007/12/jazz_1.html

Woebot on his jazz vinyl collection

-- curmudgeon, Monday, January 7, 2008 4:40 PM

ok good stuff for the most part but

"In a Silent way" must be the most perfect imagining of a Minimal Jazz.

ffs

Max Roach's birthday today.

Would have been 84.

http://www.engadget.com/photos/ces-2008-product-names-best-of-the-worst/575941/

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I keep hearing this groovy version of "I Never Knew Love Like This Before" by The Deep Blue Organ Trio.

Already said this on the vinyl thread, but other day I got:

Trident - McCoy Tyner
Reqiuem: Complete Atlantic - Lennie Tristano
Joe Henderson in Japan - Joe Henderson (duh)
Concert by the Sea - Cal Tjader

Requiem is everything I wanted it to be, Trident rips and is exactly the Tyner I was looking for when I bought the wrong handful of 70s albums last year. The Tjader isn't what I was hoping for (wanted more of a latin soul feel to it, but this is kinda MJQ stuff), but is still good.

The Joe Henderson is the first Henderson record I've heard, it was all rep up to now, and holy shit I am loving this guy. I'm gonna have to see if we have a S/D thread on him.

lol oh wait i started one

S/D: Joe Henderson

really, really great piece on miles davis dissing oscar peterson, the blues in jazz, etc.

(at do the math)

That was awesome. Only thing is he doesn't mention "Song For My Father" or "Watermelon Man." Maybe he gets around to them in the footnotes, which I haven't read yet.

pretty interesting article, but way too effin' long. i like this quote from davis: "I don't know what they mean when they say 'swing hard' anyway." Doesn't that kind of sound like Xhuxk or Tom E talking?

No, because xhuxk would immediately supply one hundred exemplars of his own understanding of what the word is supposed to mean.

This article was especially interesting to me because I just read through the Ben Ratliff Coltrane book and this does a better job than BR does of, um, healing old wounds.

i recently picked up a nice vinyl copy of The Cannonball Adderly Quintet in San Francisco, I think it's his first thing after leaving the legendary Miles band w/Coltrane...from like 59...bros down with Nat.

Really nice stuff, very gospel and R&B influenced, almost a Ray Charles feel to some of the piano rhythm parts, but yeah I think it's a little poppy and breezy and got dissed for being so at the time, like he'd sold out the hardco-ah scene, but I think it's great, very fun and ingratiating w/o seeming corny.

Also got "Inception" by the McCoy Tyner Trio, his first deal as well, nice sealed copy of a late 80s Impluse! reissue, very nice stuff as well.

He learned that and runs it into the ground worse than Billy Taylor.
Ha, you got to hear a lot of both of these guys recently since, as noted above, sort of, Billy Taylor's bass player passed away shortly after OP.

Kind of a hilarious article here: http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=28260

I stayed in one of these resorts and it's not so bad (especially with kids), so dude is being kind of a drama queen. But his research into Mexico's hate/hate affair with jazz is pretty amazing, and I like how he is willing to tear new ones for lazy schmuck artists.

Is that the guy who has all the theory lessons on the web?

idk, how do i shot web?

If you have to ask, you'll never know.

No, the other guy is Marc Sabatella.

"d minor bags"!!

Charlie Mingus' death in Cuernavaca
I know that Dexter Gordon was down in Cuernavaca for a while, but I'm not sure what he was doing there.

"d minor bags"!!
Yeah, that was a really bad joke, sorry.

Haw, I liked it.

Next one I'm calling Jazz G7 Bags Thread, if I remember to.

Hm. Usually when I heard the word "fusion" that's when I reach for my Revolver, but this looks kind of interesting.

Manieri is really good -- and Tony Levin!

Yeah, exactly. Plus I've seen Donny McCaslin once or twice before in Latin Jazz contexts and he's good too.

Sounds like something I would have been psyched about in high school. God, so many sterile, chopsy albums with Steve Smith, Mike Stern, Victor Wooten, Dennis Chambers, ad infinitum.

That's why Donny McCaslin is the tie-in, he's from a younger generation with a little more of the Latin influence, hopefully keeping the whole thing from fusioning out of control.

Although maybe he'll just get caught up in the ball of con-fusion like everybody else.

Picked up Matthew Shipp's Nu-Bop today.

Basically sounds like dude had been listening to a bunch of Aphex Twin and wanted to play around with techno-jazz. It's pretty good, stays kinetic enough that it never veers into Smooth territory even though the 9 tracks are basically 9 variations on a theme. A bit repetitive, but I dig it.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080225/stillman

^ hilarious albert ayler story in http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080225/stillman

oops

basically "i got really high and listened to albert ayler and had great insights about western civilization" but it's fun

I love Nu Bop!

I just ordered the David S. Ware album from last year. Have high expectations.

I need to get back to seeing live jazz again. I've gotten lazy.

Haven't heard Nu-Bop in forever, but the bassline on the title track is sick.

I just ordered the new Nik Bartsch disc!

Went to 55 Bar to see Lew Soloff- it was his birthday so he had a few special guests play with him- many of whom the doorman charged a cover! Big guy walks up with a trumpet and says "I'm Jon Faddis, former director of the Jazz Orchestra at Lincoln Center" and the Dan-Hedaya-crossed-with-Stifler-looking doorman holds out his hand and says "And I'm Paul R4mirez, pleased to meet you, but you still gotta pay ten bucks." Other guest was Jerry Vivino (who I never realized was a different person from his brother Jimmy)

When they got started, John Faddis played "Happy Birthday" at him, then Lew called "Equinox", then they played "How High The Moon" followed by "My Funny Valentine" dedicated to his daughter. Sort of ended with "Night In Tunisia" but then they fooled around with a tango -"La Cumparsita"- I think, and then on some kind of "Hava Nagila" crossed with "St. James Infirmary," I don't think the band even knew what the tune was.

Lew has a great way of sort of starting with kind of lazy bleat and then getting louder and more forceful as he goes along. Lew and Jon had a little bit of a contest during "Tunisia," I think Jon kind of won, he was channeling Diz. I like that about jazz, that bigtime cats play the same corny tunes that Jordan played in Jazz 101 and they make it sound so good.

Took my dad (the jazz fan in the family who grew up in NY seeing shows at Bop City and such) Tuesday night out to 1,900 seat Strathmore in suburban Md./DC to see the 50th anniversary Monterey Jazz Festival on tour (54 United States shows; in Jersey tonight and tomorrow) with pianist Benny Green, James Moody, Terence Blanchard, bassist Derrick Hodge, drummer Kendrick Scott and singer Nnena Freelon...

Nice, well-balanced show---Moody's bad jokes, vocalese and nice blowing; trumpeter Blanchard's somber New Orleans cuts from his latest effort; a Coltrane number; fine young 20-somethings Hodge and Scott and pianist Green who looks like he's 18 but is older; Freelon closing with "Misty"

I have missed Blanchard on recent headlining gigs and this taste of his playing made me that much more eager to see him in a headline role sometime.

I got the whole set of those Jazz Icons DVDs last year, but never dug into 'em until now. Took home Art Blakey (Belgium, 1958, one month after Moanin' was recorded) and Thelonious Monk (Norway and Denmark, 1966). Watched the Blakey last night. Lee Morgan, Benny Golson, Bobby Timmons, Jymie Merritt, and Blakey, just tearing through "Moanin'" and "A Night In Tunisia" and four or five other pieces - 55 minutes all together. Fucking killer, killer stuff. I could listen to Lee Morgan all day every day for a year.

Nice. I've only been to the 55 Bar once, to see Ari Hoenig's band, but it was cool.

I saw the the Monterey tour when I was a freshman in college, and it was Nick Payton's quintet w/Cedar Walton, Randy Brecker, sax dude I can't remember the name of, etc..

I got that Nik Bartsch cd (Holon) and listened to the first two cuts on the way to work this morning. It's so sick...it's as much Steve Reich as anything relating to jazz (the closest parallels might be some M-Base shit or Vijay Ayer, but this is much more composed and cinematic than that), but who cares what you call it.

Has anybody heard the new Spring Heel Jack album? I like the sound of it, based on brief clips.

yusef lateef is playing in mpls tomorrow nite, might go but it's really spendy...but anyway the city pages did an article on him and this quote made me LOL:

"Jazz is defined as doggerel, skullduggery, poppycock, coquetry, sexual intercourse," he said recently from his home in Massachusetts. "It has nothing to do with what I do."

^^^that has everything to do with what i do

Freddie Hubbard is in critical condition.

Although some seem to say he is improving.

just picked up Song X by Ornette/Methany. WOW.

Denardo & DeJohnette make a hell of a team.

where's the news about freddie hubbard? can't find anything.

http://www.jazz.com/
http://speakeasy.jazzcorner.com/speakeasy/showthread.php?s=d0f4ca254e9cc507c94fd495371712c2&p=791839#post791839

ah, yeah, thanks. found this too: "Freddie has been in ICU since the night before Thanksgiving due to a heart attack. since that time, he has made remarkable progress but still has a long way to go. he is now awake and alert, according to the reports i've received from a friend who has visited him almost daily."
guess he's not even that old ... well, best wishes, freddie. definitely an amazing musician who has played with the cream of the crop ...

http://thebadplus.typepad.com/dothemath/2008/12/steve-lacy-on-monk.html

Awesome.

is this he thread where we ask what makes miguel zenon a Latin jazz guy?

No, that's this thread Latin Jazz: Generic Thread Forever

but, while i would like to better understand the latin roots in his music, i don't think its description should be so limited or defined

I thought that there was a long running jazz thread smehwhere but I can't seem to find it. Anyway I've been listening to jazz now for several years after ignoring it my entire life. I bought Wes Montgomery's Smokin' at the Half Note which is really fantastic and I can't say enough good things about it. The band he plays with, the Wyton Kelly Trio, is also (equally) great but Wynton Kelly only seems to have one album and from the cuts I've heard it's worth getting as well. Maybe some recommendations on some things Wynton has been involved with? Also any jazz stuff you might like post about.

― brownie, Friday, December 12, 2008 5:50 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ok, I found this thread

wynton is great on the Miles Davis stuff, obviously, but also on a bunch of Hank Mobley Blue Note dates ...

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If you lose it again, just search for "jazz d"

yeah, Jordan gave me the Hank Mobley tip. Never heard him. Man, there's a lot of stuff out there.

I also picked up the Charlie Rouse Bossanova Bacchanal which is also good but the last song that was tacked on (a straight jazz tune not from the Bossanova sessions apparently) is a real stunner. I'm gathering he never did anything else as a bank leader besides that song which is a real shame.

band leader

just bought some records from a friend:

Mal Waldron (feat steve lacy) - Hard Talk --- fucking WOW

Lee Morgan - The Cooker

Art Pepper - Smack Up

Dexter Gordon - Dexter Calling

all really great stuff

The new Joshua Redman album, Compass is pretty damn good. Between this and 2007's Back East, he's on a sort of mini-roll. The new one features him as the sole horn, fronting bassists Larry Grenadier and Reuben Rogers and drummers Brian Blade and Gregory Hutchinson. A few tracks feature a straight saxophone trio (Grenadier/Blade or Rogers/Hutchinson), others feature both bass players and one of the drummers, and a couple feature all five musicians at once. Coming out on Nonesuch next month; at 13 tracks in 72 minutes, it's about five tracks and 25 minutes too long, but I can't honestly say which ones I'd cut, so: recommended.

that sounds good, i was wondering where gregory hutchinson's been at. i love him on christian mcbride's "a family affair" (awesome record).

Maybe somebody should start a new thread. I tried to find a title here but couldn't pick one: http://thebadplus.typepad.com/dothemath/2008/12/steve-lacy-on-monk.html

"if you don't want to play, tell a joke or dance" or "let's lift the bandstand!!"

You've got it!

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