d'angelo - voodoo - classic or dud?

totally disagree with shakey about the buried tracks/muddiness. that's exactly what I like about the album, and the fact that most modern rnb is brightshinyclean turns me off of it.
nick, you should know that the trick to getting those details to surface is to inhale drugas.

I think in that other thread I talked about this as non-climax sex music, which still sounds about right to me.

I won $5 on a bet with my roomy not too long ago on the fact that, yes Kevin, Charlie Hunter does play on this album. A lot.

This album on the boombox guarantees I will get something done around my house, be it the dishes or cunnilingus.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, March 1, 2005 2:20 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^thats a pretty good recommendation

i like voodoo but i get a sense it was dangelo really trying to make an album he thought he 'should' make, and be the type of artist he was trying to be, rather than just be him...

this album has a crazy detailed wikipedia page btw

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voodoo_(album)

this thread is a bit sad

pretty much my favourite album of all time, the slow release hooks and choruses are masterful. So many fantastic tunes

Just listening to this today for the first time in years while cleaning the house. Great album.

i like voodoo but i get a sense it was dangelo really trying to make an album he thought he 'should' make, and be the type of artist he was trying to be, rather than just be him...

― uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, January 26, 2009 2:03 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha such a titchy post

maybe the single best album i've listened to due to ILM enthusiasm. heard it for the first time only a couple years back (smdh).

2nd best album ever.

dunno, maybe best album ever

These 'slow release hooks' must be really subtle because this album still washes over me. Must try harder (I loved Brown Sugar fwiw).

Geez, maybe I need to revisit. Bought it used three or four years back a looong time after I'd first considered purchasing it, and it just didn't connect for me. It might have something to do with D'Angelo's tic of singing every line a little more than hair behind the beat, a neat idea in theory which ends up ratcheting everything up another order of difficulty (it's forbidding enough to begin with with). Chances are that I just don't get it, but something Dave Marsh said in an interview a few years back stuck with me - he suggested that "Voodoo" was basically a failed attempt to capture the vibe of "There's A Riot Goin' On." Generally I don't trust Marsh on music after the 1980's, but I'm a giant "Riot" fan and "Voodoo" still kinda leaves me cold.

It took a long time to connect with me and Marsh is wrong.

i mostly see it as a successful attempt to capture the vibe of a d'angelo album

Ha, well I'll check it out again, then. Does he do that behind-the-beat thing on "Brown Sugar" too?

its a 'vibe' album largely, not a song one (though yes, it does have a few great songs on it).

its not really trying to recreate the riot atmosphere exactly, but it is something similar, that same sort of very slurred, hazy, drunken kind of vocals and ambience, though the clarity of the sonics are far too good to = riot. the main prob with voodoo is that cos it took so long to make and nothing has come after it you can throw a million things at it (fair and unfair) and it has to stack up to all of them, rather than simply be an evolutionary, feeling-my-way-around-for-something-new album which is what it seemed to be.

this album is so much more about sex than 'riot'

True true

Quit thinking about it so much and just vibe out to it.

There's A Sex Going On

when all the tiny d'angelos suddenly snap out of their unconnected mumblings and sing "i won't steer you wrong!" it still gives me shivers right down my spine.

his label should just do what labels used to do and release outtakes and leftovers from these sessions in place of anything new from him. id like to see what else they came up with, stuff that wasnt in the same mood as what made it on the album. have heard a few outtakes over the years but there must be more - apparently there was a title track that went on for about 20 mins. admittedly this might be better on paper than to listen to but id still like to hear it.

ohhhhh shiiiiiiit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etxFu7HgeB0

I'm glad he's actually working but... kinda weak tbh. he can't really do that James Brown showman stuff with any dexterity.

he hasn't played a show in over a decade? too bad you can't have a low-profile warm up show these days.

I was expecting something more low-key tbh! not this sort of classic soul revue schtick

well that's what he did (prince/jb worship) for the whole voodoo tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jajpnAAXJaI

i did wonder if he'd go back to it tbh, or do a brown sugar-era sitting-at-the-rhodes thing.

I love how the guitarists in these kinds of bands are always like statues

fwiw jesse johnson (of The Time) was supposed to play guitar on this tour, but i guess he had something else to do. so they got the dude with the most similar name, jef lee johnson.

lol

yeah I thought Jesse left the Time tour to do this...?

i'm just going off this: http://www.okayplayer.com/news/dangelo-2012-tour-diary-pt-1-he-got-on-the-plane.html (lol first time i've looked at okayplayer in years).

Then there’s the newbies; Chris Dave – Rick Rubin’s favorite drummer (sacrilegious I know); Ray Angry – our boy from The Roots who’s subbing for Cleo Pookie Sample (gotta love a n**ga named Pookie). Jesse Johnson; who’s a beast but had another commitment so we have Jeff Lee Johnson–killing it.

I'm glad he's actually working but... kinda weak tbh. he can't really do that James Brown showman stuff with any dexterity.

you're crazy, this is fucking great

so is "charade"

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/01/dangelo_stockholm_new_songs.php

aw man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs_2JKTHYJU

here's good audio of "sugar daddy"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMS3pEIxDZo

I will pay top dollar to see this man.

Good to see Pino is still on bass.

oh shit

otm

piano medley: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu1etLden10

and uh bowie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_Sw5Pl3mQY

http://www.okayplayer.com/news/mixtape-mondays-sam-champ-x-okayplayer-dangelo-live-mixtape.html

is that new live stuff or old?

think its all old

what is that even supposed to mean

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZd_YyFzPD0

It doesn't mean anything except that it took D'Angelo a really long time to release another album. (Not that we're really comparing the two, but Miles released 11 albums, almost all classics, between KoB and BB.)

Sorry, meant that it's sort of strange that, in this age of supposed hyper -compressed attention spans, it's possible for an artist to remain in some way 'current' even with such a protracted absence, whereas, in the time between KoB and BB, as noted, Miles released 11 records, the Beatles had their entire career etc. It's nearly impossible to imagine any artist in popular music disappearing in 1959 and returning with a record in 1973 without it being a big 'comeback/ rediscovery' story (Art Pepper?) whereas with D'Angelo, it's acknowledged in every story that he's been away for a while, but there's no sense of him being an anachronism, a being landed from another era.

It has been 12 years since the last Peter Gabriel album of original material. If anything, I bet the work habits of D'Angelo and PG are surprisingly similar.

well, Peter Gabriel was 40 and had almost a dozen studio albums under his belt before he started releasing music more sporadically (like a lot of rich, middle-aged rock stars do). D'Angelo just turned 40 before releasing his 3rd album.

Well, tbf, there was also the matter of the drugs and whatnot. Been a few distractions at work. Kind of a shame he wasted so much time.

Just realized D'Angelo and I share a birthday. Same day, at least; he's a year older.

the flipside of hyper-compressed attention spans is that there is no narrative of general progress or development

anyway though i just wanted to cosign this

meth & red are great on "left and right" any other opinion is objectively wrong

― J0rdan S., Monday, 22 December 2014 00:01 (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

feel like makin love is just so absolutely perfect

Has a single song ever sunk an otherwise 'perfect 10' album like "Left & Right?" Lordy, what a vibe-annihilator.

― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, December 20, 2014 11:25 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and yea otm, such a bummer, it is just meth & red otherwise it is a great tune, "liar liar set your pussy on fire" smh

fuckin dweebs

iirc D himself wasn't too enthused about their input (and tried to replace them with Q-Tip but was even less satisfied with his efforts),

― Dej & the Fommly Loaf (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 December 2014 18:40 Bookmark

with all due respect to d this only makes me love it more

every song on this perfect album is perfect

Watch D’Angelo & The Roots Rehearse A Very Funky Take Of “The Line” For Roots Picnic NYC

D'artist list.

Is this the best album of the 21st century so far? Maybe.

It’s a contender for sure

this is my favourite album of all time and i can't fathom being someone who thinks of it as a dud

this album only really opened up for me earlier this year but it's truly incredible

It can take some time to open up to you, yeah - take a look at my first comment in this thread and laugh

every song on this perfect album is perfect

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:28 (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

correct

(Tracer is never going to want to make out with us!)

― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:06 (thirteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

..rong?

uhmm. . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2ihpqq4wKE

https://www.discogs.com/Amerigo-Gazaway-DAngelo-Variation-Of-Voodoo-A-Tribute-To-DAngelo/release/15096894

anyone watching the verzuz? anyone else watching experiencing some connectivity issues?

This album sounds incredible. The production is superb. I think he was still growing as a writer though. Still learning about songwriting dynamics as opposed to great grooves and mood, ambience, musicianship, etc. Weird fact I learned in an Eddie Kramer interview was that electric lady went very quiet after the period that all the soulauarian guys recorded all their albums there.

this is a joy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyeUDsckMho
Chicken Grease (D'Angelo) - Bass and Drums

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4ytLiEHuk0