Kraftwerk

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7813200.stm

:(

The boy Schnieder done good but he has to hang up his boots sometime

I've been disappointed by how accessible they've been over the past few years. Maybe this will restore a little mystery.

But Florian was the weirdo mystery element in the group

And now he's not even in it! It's like SUPER MYSTERIOUS!

This at the bottom of the BBC page...

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45301000/jpg/_45301645_cones2_126.jpg
Cones hotline
The lasting legacy of John Major's much ridiculed plan

what would Florian do?

Hopefully jam with Michael Rother and Jaki L., but probably not. :(

Every time I play the opening minute or two of "Europe Endless" I'm kinda convinced there's no better start to a song -- an album, ANYTHING -- out there. It's such a perfectly realized and precise arrangement, and *then* the beats arrive.

co-sign!

Europa Endlos should be the anthem of the EU.

Every time I play the opening minute or two of "Europe Endless" I'm kinda convinced there's no better start to a song -- an album, ANYTHING -- out there. It's such a perfectly realized and precise arrangement, and *then* the beats arrive.

For me, that moment is the keyboard interlude the third time or so it's repeated. For one, I just love the sound of the saw wave and the little modulation accents Ralf plays. But on that iteration, Ralf knocks it up a register — and it just takes off. Easily my favorite Kraftwerk moment, period.

Folks have probably already seen this, but just in case:

http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3212&Itemid=26

Remasters of Autobahn, Radio-Activity, Trans Europe Express), The Man Machine, Computer World, Techno Pop, The Mix, and Tour De France. Available individually or as a box set, in which case they come in those horrible little "mini LP sleeve" packages people seem to like for some reason.

On October 5 Kraftwerk will release 12345678: The Catalogue, a CD box set collecting eight of their classic studio albums. Newly remastered versions of the albums will also be available individually on CD, vinyl and download.

- 8 x individual CDs presented in special slipcases featuring newly expanded artwork, including many previously unseen images all of which have been reproduced to the highest technical standards.

- CD Box Set containing 8 x CDs in ‘mini-vinyl’ card wallet packaging, plus individual large format booklets.

- 8 x individual heavyweight vinyl LPs with large format booklets.

- Digital downloads.

Any reason to buy these for those of us who own all the albums on CD already? Sounds like extra packaging but nothing in the way of new/unreleased music... not really into those types of reissues.

Remastered sound?

Oh my god, I'm listening to the original '83 version of "Tour de France" right now and am FLIPPING OUT

for the first time

Remastered sound?

The remastering will be the selling point for me. The CDs that we've been listening to for the last twenty years leave a lot to be desired.

will "Techno Pop" be mythical lost album or just "Electric Cafe" with original title?

wikipedia says it's just electric cafe with the original title

ralf and florian is nice, summery, kind of hawaiian

-- this explains why i like that lp so much!

Techno Pop was basically a failed album that had the best parts remixed into Electric Cafe. I doubt it will ever seen the light of day and I am not too upset about it. It would be neat to hear out of curiosity, but I doubt they have eight Tour de France style joints sitting in the can waiting to be heard.

That being said, I can only imagine what they have in their archives. I would love to hear the demos for songs that didn't make the cut for their studio albums. They will never be heard while Hutter is alive, but it will be interesting to see how his estate handles the music.

It will also be interesting to see who is credited on the box set. I wonder if Schneider will have his name removed like Bartos and Flur.

.. and Conny Plank...

1983 demo version of 'Techno Pop' is utterly different than album version, almost a 70's retrench with the Orchestron vocal choir playing the chord sequence, I like it better than the album version

& there were three new tunes on the 98 tour than remain unreleased, I can see why but I'd still love a studio version of the one that sounds like their take on Basic Channel

word! is that demo vers floating around somewhere reachable?
the live versions I've heard of the "Techno Pop" stuff is pretty great ... hard-hitting, muscular stuff

usual place, + demo version of 'techno pop' widely available on 'ultra rare trax volume 2' comp, most widely available bootleg of 97/98 tour is 'Computer Sinfonien ZKM'

correction, one word "Computersinfonien"

but "Tribal Gathering" and "Live at the Fillmore" boots pretty good too

ace, thanks!

"but "Tribal Gathering" and "Live at the Fillmore" boots pretty good too"

for a second i'm thinking i clicked on the live dead thread by mistake...

yeah I mean "Fillmore" is a better, more lush recording that captures more of the vibe of the night, but at "Tribal" Ralf was just so on

The only Kraftwerk recordings I have are 70's era, including the one with Rother + Dinger, and this one from Leverkusen with a 40 minute Autobahn

you know where leonardo is? I've been looking for Leverkusen forever, I'll put up 1975 Brighton if you post that one

to go back to "Tribal" it was like Ralf had all this energy that you could literally see rising out of his hands, and it wasn't the acid because I asked Mary and she saw the same tendrils

It's in flac or shn; what's the best way to send something of that size?

i quite liked the three late 90s demos esp. the Tribal '97 one. actually 'Tango' was a bit shit but they kept doing that live for a while unlike the other two.

oh jeez, probably zipping the flac files would get them under sendspace-able 300 MB

I know this is bad form trading right out here on the street but seriously if they sold this shit legit we wouldn't be in the sorry state we are right now man

Oh it's fine, I got it all on dime/dc++ anyway. It's not like it's copyrighted or anything.

Relistening to this Autobahn for the first time in like 6 years. Sound quality's kind of shit, but performance is simply transcendent. If this isn't A++++ I don't know what is; the motorik breakdown alone is like 10 minutes. Will post soon.

The whole thing's 980 megs though; I think I'll just V0 this or something.

fine with mp3's

Kraftwerk POX
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jfeegk

the other non-album Kraftwerk single I'm looking for, the pre-Conny Plank 7" version of “Kohoutek – Kometenmelodie” - http://www.headheritage.com/unsung/thebookofseth/1743

have heard side 1, still haven't heard side 2

ha ha until this very second, oh blogspot.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/5rsc6e

Techno Pop version of 'Sex Object'

http://r*pidshare.com/files/266436158/kwtp.zip.html

ha ha until this very second, oh blogspot.

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where?

If you google kohoutek and kraftwerk it's one of the first results

Yeah, found one. Quite recently, I did that, got nowt...

chemicalbeats.blogspot.com usually has some good stuff.

http://chemicalbeats.blogspot.com/2008/11/kraftwerk-kohoutek-kometenmelodie.html

stuff like that

Leverkusen is hilarious, it's rare to hear that many technical problems / mistakes, it's enjoyable. and that version of Autobahn is hands down beautiful.

for the Brighton show they'd just bought the Orchestron, so it's a fun chance to hear them use those TEE Strings / Radioactivity Choir samples on almost every single song

not a single one of the 70's shows I don't want to hear at least once: http://www.valand.gu.se/dm/students/andreas/kw_skivor/bootlegs.html

A piece from the archives i just re-read, the predictably on point
Pushing Ahead Of The Dame, talking about Bowie, Berlin, Kraftwerk etc

https://bowiesongs.wordpress.com/2011/05/17/v-2-schneider/

xp It still occasionally amazes me that Michael Rother played in Kraftwerk, Neu! and Harmonia.

+ I have his first three solo albums ID3 tagged as Rother / Liebezeit / Plank

been going through the 1990 KW bootlegs. last tour with Karl Bartos, though it's Hilpert playing raw live percussion. lots of extremely different versions of the 90's digital retool of 'Numbers', and 'Autobahn' traffic jams are top. probably the last hurrah for them as an actual live band; the only real reason to go through different nights of any given tour after '91 is for fidelity reasons

That Pushing Ahead piece reminded me that you can draw a straight line from "V-2 Schneider" to Einstürzende Neubauten's "Kalte Sterne" (they have the same underlying pulse):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8-oXfqqgVE

my little tribute here:
https://critterjams.wordpress.com/2020/05/11/endless-endless/

speaking of Kraftwerk covers, new for Aboriginal / first nations charities, in homage to both Florian and Weatherall - a 15-minute Neon Lights cover (plus 10-minute remix)) by Jono Ma (from Pnau/Jagwar Ma), Jonti (Danimals/live Avalanches), Stella Mogzawa (Warpaint/the XX/Kurt & Courtney), Ewan Pearson (Ewan Pearson) & pals

Ewan Pearson (Ewan Pearson)

thank you for this, I knew the name sounded familiar...

Ah, you’re partial to his arts

Echo..

^ That Neon Lights cover is rather lovely and would have sounded excellent at ALFOSes I'm sure.

new kraftwerk dropped lads:
https://open.spotify.com/album/5FvNOnZtP0dQKZbDQ1uhGy?si=eOOM4BwmQCueKyK6Wm_5HA

What's at the link?

This is really just a playlist of remixes that were previously released. Nothing new about it.

yes

karl bartos solo material is just as good except his rock release!

honestly p stoked the Orbital remix is finally on spotify

I was all "Oh Oh.... oh."

Never mind, I have enough copies of the Vertigo albums...

was thinking it would be funny to do a "Bohemian Rhapsody" style biopic of Jean-Michel Jarre. the only scene I have nailed down is Jarre buying Autobahn and hearing "Kometenmelodie 2" for the first time. his mind instantly rockets through the cosmos, like in the end of 2001: A Space Odyssey. you keep seeing him make the faces from the Vince McMahon gif. he wakes up drenched in sweat, comes downstairs and says "Dad...I don't want to take piano lessons anymore"

Would watch!

I had a dream about Kraftwerk last night. they did a show in Madison (?) and the setlist was:

Ruckzuck
Neon Lights
Supper's Ready
Electric Cafe - with 5 cats in wireframe suits. 4 of them ran away, the other one flopped on its belly and everyone said "awww"

then the curtains closed and I grabbed a beer out of a vending machine (?) which came with a shot of Fireball for 27 dollars. I used my wife's credit card.

the curtains lifted and some guy comes out and says "sorry ze robot is broken, we cannot play, Auf Wiedersehen." and everyone stood up and booed and threw pretzels

sorry, had to write this down somewhere

amazing, tyvm

hoping your wife is cool with the beer expenditure, otherwise it's Computerliebe from here on

4 of them ran away, the other one flopped on its belly and everyone said "awww"

I will retrofit this onto the Kraftwerk canon or die trying

Supper's Ready is the key element here

Excellent.