Best Werner Herzog Film

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Has anybody actually seen Rescue Dawn yet?

nickalicious, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 21:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

So is the hottie Russian chick in Incident at Loch Ness really his wife? Cause I always thought that was one of the jokes.

goth casual, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 21:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

I'm going to vote for the bottle of LiquidSilk I bought the day Jeff loaned me Aguirre.

jaymc, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 21:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

also, the Film Forum sold out his Dieter appearance about 4 hours in advance, despite the lies they told about ticket sales beforehand.

Yeah, that fucked me over too. I'm also pretty sure they projected Les maitres fous from a VHS.

I voted Dieter anyway.

C0L1N B..., Wednesday, 23 May 2007 21:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

So is the hottie Russian chick in Incident at Loch Ness really his wife? Cause I always thought that was one of the jokes.

I don't think they ever claimed she was his wife. She was just some vague hot young woman he lived with. I didn't figure out this movie was a work of fiction until it was nearly over (I am naive I guess), I can't believe that whole opening dinner party scene didn't tip me off.

nickalicious, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 21:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think his wife is young & hot, though?

Jordan, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 21:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

And Russian...
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1365577/

Jordan, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 21:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah the description of her in the new yorker profile from a year or two ago seemed to fit.

"people say i've gone hollywood..."

goth casual, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 21:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

Fata Morgana so good I can't bring myself to finish it.

Eric H., Thursday, 24 May 2007 00:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

Kaspar Hauser for me. I'd say it's one of my top 5 movies ever. Nosferatu may be my second fave of his.

Invincible is underrated.

dan selzer, Thursday, 24 May 2007 03:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

I'd go fitzcarraldo, but it's close.

forksclovetofu, Thursday, 24 May 2007 04:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

fata morgana is underrated, but then again it's only suited for persons of a certain bent. I can't imagine watching it piecemeal, that's like listening to marquee moon in 3 minute increments.

Edward III, Thursday, 24 May 2007 18:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

AGUIRRE

Joe, Friday, 25 May 2007 01:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

Stroszek is my vote. Because of the totally bizarre (but not in the context of the movie) chicken/music/ski-lift thing at the end, which I think sums up Herzog maybe better than his big epic movies. There's only one director who would would dare or even bother to make a movie with this clearly unstable person. Herzog is a little nuts, and attracted to like, and his sweet and tender relationship with Bruno S. is more revealing than his violent relationship with Kinski. At least, I prefer it. And it's a great movie.

kenan, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

best herzog performance = julien donkey boy

so true! also i have no idea how to vote. i might go for one i havent seen.

jhøshea, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

which is most of them

jhøshea, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

i voted bells from the deep - that had a nice ring to it.

jhøshea, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

what have you seen?

kenan, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

Aguirre, The Wrath Of God
Cobra Verde
Even Dwarfs Started Small
Fitzcarraldo
God's Angry Man
Little Dieter Needs To Fly
My Best Fiend
Nosferatu
The Great Ecstasy Of Woodcarver Steiner
The White Diamond
The Wild Blue Yonder
Wheel Of Time
Where The Green Ants Dream

and grzly man

jhøshea, Friday, 25 May 2007 11:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

no surprises here.

Jeff, Friday, 1 June 2007 13:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

Well someone voted for "The Unprecedented Defence Of The Fortress Deutschkreuz" - I call that a surprise!

Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 13:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

http://www.roguefilmschool.com/

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The Rogue Film School will be in the form of weekend seminars held by Werner Herzog in person at varying locations and at infrequent intervals.
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The number of participants will be limited.
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Locations and dates will be announced on this website and Werner Herzog's website: www.wernerherzog.com approximately 12 weeks in advance.
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The Rogue Film School will not teach anything technical related to film-making. For this purpose, please enroll at your local film school.
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The Rogue Film School is about a way of life. It is about a climate, the excitement that makes film possible. It will be about poetry, films, music, images, literature.
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The focus of the seminars will be a dialogue with Werner Herzog, in which the participants will have their voice with their projects, their questions, their aspirations.
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Excerpts of films will be discussed, which could include your submitted films; they may be shown and discussed as well. Depending on the materials, the attention will revolve around essential questions: how does music function in film? How do you narrate a story? (This will certainly depart from the brainless teachings of three-act-screenplays). How do you sensitize an audience? How is space created and understood by an audience? How do you produce and edit a film? How do you create illumination and an ecstasy of truth?
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Related, but more practical subjects, will be the art of lockpicking. Traveling on foot. The exhilaration of being shot at unsuccessfully. The athletic side of filmmaking. The creation of your own shooting permits. The neutralization of bureaucracy. Guerrilla tactics. Self reliance.
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Censorship will be enforced. There will be no talk of shamans, of yoga classes, nutritional values, herbal teas, discovering your Boundaries, and Inner Growth.
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Related, but more reflective, will be a reading list: if possible, read Virgil's "Georgics", read "Hemingway's "The short happy life of Francis Macomber", The Poetic Edda, translated by Lee M. Hollander (in particular the Prophecy of the Seeress), Bernal Diaz del Castillo "True History of the Conquest of New Spain".
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Follow your vision. Form secretive Rogue Cells everywhere. At the same time, be not afraid of solitude.

deus ex lawnmower (latebloomer), Friday, 25 September 2009 10:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

"The Rogue Film School is not for the faint-hearted," said the film-maker. "It is for those who have travelled on foot, who have worked as bouncers in sex clubs or as wardens in a lunatic asylum, for those who are willing to learn about lock-picking or forging shooting permits in countries not favouring their projects."

MPx4A, Friday, 25 September 2009 10:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

There will be no talk of shamans, of yoga classes, nutritional values, herbal teas, discovering your Boundaries, and Inner Growth.

Lol - isn't he making a film with Lynch at the moment? I guess they got on each others nerves.

dowd, Friday, 25 September 2009 10:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

nah i think he just wants the seminars to get the point. ya know,like lockpicking.

deus ex lawnmower (latebloomer), Friday, 25 September 2009 10:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

great dbl bill at the Ritzy tomorrow, btw - wanted to see Fata Morgana for a while

http://www.v22collection.com/herzog/26.html

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 24 October 2009 11:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

i watches stroszek last night. really good. the heist scene followed by the grocery shopping is hysterical.

jed_, Saturday, 24 October 2009 11:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

watched

jed_, Saturday, 24 October 2009 11:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

STROZEK

FACK, Saturday, 24 October 2009 20:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

it's his best (and most lynch-y) film,imo

Zeno, Saturday, 24 October 2009 23:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

strozek just combines such wierd elements together, and somehow it works, but i also love fitzcarraldo and aguirre

FACK, Saturday, 24 October 2009 23:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

I love this scene in Fitz:

Jeff, Sunday, 25 October 2009 00:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

what i liked about srozek the most, is that it deals with social problems of the present - one might call it the Herzog version of social realism.it's a very special film in his filmography.it is also funny and presents Bruno S at it's best. as oppose to Aguirre/fitzcaraldo/kasper which are historical,colder,less emotional movies (though still great).

Zeno, Sunday, 25 October 2009 00:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

this should have a run-off poll!

The Viceroy (Viceroy), Sunday, 25 October 2009 01:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

strozek is def. a very special film. I've never seen anything like it. the sad/funny ratio is really well done.

my dad told me that he watched strozek and just started it over w/herzog commentary on right after it finished. awesome!

(commentary is hilarious, of course)

( - _ - ); (Alan N), Sunday, 25 October 2009 18:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Rewatched The White Diamond last weekend, just lovely; maybe my favorite thimg he's done since Aguirre.

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

Overrated

Summer Hours is better

;)

Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

The next Rogue Film School will take place on the East Coast in spring 2010. Stay tuned!!

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

explain why I should not apply

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

I love the scene in TWD where Herzog is telling Dorrington why not having him w/ camera on the first airship flight is "a stupid stupidity."

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

whenev I try to imitate him it comes out like Arnold, but how great would WH be as CA governor?

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

<3 x 1000000000000000

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

watched Stroszek yesterday (Superbowl? what's that?) - what a goofy little movie. scene w/premature baby = disturbing.

mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 February 2010 16:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

it's his best movie imo.
works like a twisted combination between humanistic social realism and david lynch surrealism

Zeno, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

am0n, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

i don't remember any premature baby and i just rewatched it a couple months ago

harbl, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh wait yeah i do

harbl, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

Stroszek himeslf kinnda premature baby ..

Zeno, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

it was overshadowed in my memory by the fart-lighting scene

harbl, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

what the hell 'even dwarfs started small' is on youtube in its entirety

am0n, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

music score is sorta bad

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah Into the Abyss completely ruined my night. just deeply depressing on multiple levels. don't think it's one i'll ever return to.

circa1916, Thursday, 10 May 2012 23:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

Yoo hoo
Has anyone read the book about Heart of Glass yet? Every Night the Trees Disappear by Alan Greenberg?

If so,
(1) recommend?
(2) is the music discussed at all, or just the movie/circumstances surrounding the making of the movie?

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 00:11 (8 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...
2 months pass...

I got the Heart of Glass book (Every Night the Trees Disappear) for Christmas and I'm already halfway done. It's got short chapters/vignettes about the production of the movie (which involved villagers and hypnotism, typically) intercut with excerpts of some kind of treatment of the movie itself. Enjoyable easy reading, nothing about the music yet but at least it's not stuffy/academic (yet).

passion it person (La Lechera), Saturday, 29 December 2012 17:05 (5 months ago) Permalink

added to wishlist

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 31 December 2012 00:31 (5 months ago) Permalink

I just finished it -- it's enjoyable, and has lots of poignant/puzzling classic Herzog moments. Nothing about the soundtrack, but there's a small bit at the end about the Ancient Music Ensemble that plays on Skellig rock, but I don't even remember that part at all. Guess it's time to watch the movie again!

passion it person (La Lechera), Monday, 31 December 2012 15:36 (5 months ago) Permalink

Oh and there's this hilarious part where Herzog is like (I'm paraphrasing here) "I'm the best person at handling music in movies, I am #1" and then some other guy comes along and says no, he is the worst.

passion it person (La Lechera), Monday, 31 December 2012 15:51 (5 months ago) Permalink

other guy is wrong

dan selzer, Monday, 31 December 2012 15:59 (5 months ago) Permalink

Agree. I just checked and it was Thomas Binkley of the Ancient Music Ensemble, who only approved of the way Hollywood handles movie music. Apparently he spent a large portion of the evening talking about Mickey Mouse, so clearly he cannot be trusted.

passion it person (La Lechera), Monday, 31 December 2012 16:17 (5 months ago) Permalink

I wish more hollywood movies had used ppl like Binkley/Ancient Music Ensemble!

(wish someone would put out David Munrow's Zardoz score on CD)

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Monday, 31 December 2012 16:37 (5 months ago) Permalink

The Devils too!! Have you ever heard A Walk with Love and Death by Georges Delerue?
I trust Thomas Binkley with ancient music, but not so much with talking cartoon mice.

passion it person (La Lechera), Monday, 31 December 2012 16:40 (5 months ago) Permalink

Yeah Walk w Love n Death is a nice example! Delerue did a couple others with that period flavor too... The Borgias (old miniseries) was one...

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Monday, 31 December 2012 16:42 (5 months ago) Permalink

lag∞n, Friday, 11 January 2013 23:37 (5 months ago) Permalink

happy ppl is a weird title

johnny crunch, Saturday, 12 January 2013 23:22 (5 months ago) Permalink

agree, but it has to be a quote from someone in the movie
...right?

i mean i'm gonna go see it regardless, don't really care what it's called

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Saturday, 12 January 2013 23:45 (5 months ago) Permalink

cobra verde is very underrated

the late great, Saturday, 12 January 2013 23:47 (5 months ago) Permalink

floor of skulls iirc

the dyspeptic Hirax (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 13 January 2013 04:28 (5 months ago) Permalink

i watched the happy people, it was p great, touching seeing this trapper dude out there just being the most competent philosophical guy at one w nature, i guess herzog didnt film it just edited it down from a longer russian mini series and gave it the trademark narration, only complaint the russian translation seemed quite artless and flat

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 16:43 (4 months ago) Permalink

Cobra Verde isn't perfect BUT it does have the ultimate Herzog ending (well, that one or Stroszek's)

Simon H., Tuesday, 22 January 2013 19:43 (4 months ago) Permalink

Is Cobra Verde the one with the big dance number at the end? (never thought I'd say that, but there it is)

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 21:28 (4 months ago) Permalink

really want to see Happy People, although the Herzog narration in one of the clips I watched was surprisingly annoying and riddled with cliches -- "No rules, no bureaucracy, total self-reliance" blah blah

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 28 January 2013 03:07 (4 months ago) Permalink

awesome story

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 18:47 (4 months ago) Permalink

seriously, that article is amazing, must read

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 19:08 (4 months ago) Permalink

Sent to myself for train reading on phone.

hibernaculum (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 19:22 (4 months ago) Permalink

piece is mindbending

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 February 2013 10:39 (4 months ago) Permalink


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