"gaudy side of town" singer is horrible as well
― lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 08:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Hating on "Cry" --> I can respect, it's one of my least favourite moments on the album.
Hating on "Gaudy Side of Town" --> I feel for bad for you.
― Tim F, Thursday, 24 February 2011 08:18 (thirteen years ago) link
I had no clue as to what this band sounded or looked like or whether they sported wry smiles in their music videos when I heard this, and to be honest I don't think I want to. I'd find it very hard to accept that Gayngs are making music that sounds like this and yet doing it ironically. There's very little funny in this music at all. Just sounds like 10CC as covered by Spiritualised, which is a great idea in my book and executed very well.
― chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Thursday, 24 February 2011 12:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Also - guys, really? Have you actually heard Coldplay? How the fuck is this like Coldplay?
― chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link
insipid weak vocals and extremely boring arrangements and lack of any apparent songcraft
― lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago) link
TBH Gayngs would struggle to come up with a song as good (qua song) as "Viva La Vida" but that's not what they're about.
― Tim F, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago) link
"viva la vida" is a good song? that was always a "forget how it goes even before it's finished playing" one, so nothingy
― lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link
It is, but I'm not going to try to convince you of that lex.
― Tim F, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:40 (thirteen years ago) link
The fact that the Pet Shop Boys covered it probably doesn't help in lex's eyes.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:42 (thirteen years ago) link
lex hates pet shop boys too?!?!
― Tim F, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link
lol that's such a weird cover. i can hear when coldplay do "good songs", ie just basically catchy tunes, like "clocks" and "god put a smile on your face" - "viva la vida" is not one of those
― lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link
i kinda hate PSB now? they haven't been good for like 15 years
― lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Of all the things you could accuse Coldplay of, "lack of any apparent songcraft" isn't one. The vocals/arrangements criticism - yeah, OK.
― DL, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Tell me that you feel differently up to and including Very though.
― Tim F, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link
i think apart from a select few of their hits coldplay are actually pretty bad at writing songs qua songs - so much of their stuff is in one ear, out the other. arrangements least offensive thing about them really, could almost be bland-in-a-good-way if it wasn't for his disgusting voice
xp have never heard any PSB album all the way through except for the greatest hits! (and one of the shit recent ones.) the only post-"can you forgive her" PSB song i like is "miracles".
― lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link
lex seriously I know about your contempo steez but between this and not even listening to the steely dan or can albums on your hard drive your willful blindness is verging on egregious atm, cut out just one night of searching for cassie leaks and attend to this.
All 5 early PSB albums are essential.
― Tim F, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Tim F OTM to the moon and back.
― DL, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link
haha i haven't listened to cassie for months.
i have WAY TOO MUCH MUSIC to listen to this week, dying beneath the pile of it all. still taking in new ones from nôze, k michelle, ginuwine, art department, wolf & lamb dj kicks, egyptrixx, kode9 & spaceape, killa kyleon, shackleton, fabrizio maurizi, phaedra, gang gang dance, the revenge, jenny hval, young gully, lupe fiasco, terre thaemlitz, WAKA. and for non-contempo stuff i appear to have downloaded the entire back catalogues of esperanza spalding, jean grae and everything but the girl. PSB/steely dan/can right back to the bottom of the pile.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link
oh yeah and the marsha ambrosius one too
FTR I never cared much for the original but Gayngs' Cry is very pretty and slow and floaty and quite emotional to my ears.
― chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link
You're seriously gonna listen to Lupe Fiasco instead.
― Tim F, Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah that one's for work not pleasure :(
― lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link
not that they sound that similar (and not wanting to put lex off them because they're wicked), but having a rough grounding in things like steely dan might well help towards gayngs enjoyment.
― chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link
oh don't dog latin, now they've been mentioned in connection to both gayngs and destroyer, lex will never listen to them.
I do find it interesting though, all of this stuff (incl. coldplay) I mentally file under "white stuff goons check for".
― Tim F, Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i'm genuinely thinking i might just delete steely dan unheard now
the so-called goons are mostly indie fuxxors at heart, is the thing
― lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link
poor lex, let down by everyone.
― Tim F, Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link
2 real
― just sayin, Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link
don't delete it lex. they're really nothign like gayngs or destroyer. at least listen to, i dunno, deacon blues, dr wu, and peg.
― chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:10 (thirteen years ago) link
and please update us on what you think because I'm convinced it could go one of two ways here.
― chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link
lol i just checked my itunes and i first added this steely dan album to it in 2008
the can albums were added in 2007
by now i think it's almost a point of principle not to ever play them
― lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:15 (thirteen years ago) link
you and your principles, jesus! ;-) if i'd stuck to the same principles i had when i first joined ilx i would never have checked out erykah badu or daft punk or ABBA or countless other things i thought i'd hate or didn't fit into my immediate worldview. no use in saying i now love all these unreservedly and each one has opened a lot more stuff to me.
― chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link
I almost hate to ask but what was your worldview before you heard all those? I admit I'm all "Wait, how could anyone have not heard them?"
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link
i'd heard them of course, but i wasn't necessarily a fan of their music or what they "represented" per se. they're just random examples plucked from the air.
when i joined ilx at 19/20 y/o (ten years ago now) I listened to Warp Records, extreme metal, alt rock/britpop shit, the Beastie Boys, a few canon selections, whatever.
I thought "proper dance" music was stupid and boring. I thought r'n'b was for girls. I actively hated most commercial pop on grounds of it being cheesy and corporate. My taste in hip-hop was extremely limited to say the least. Let's just say there was a mass of stuff I assumed wasn't any good and wasn't worth me checking out.
I can't imagine how i'd be or how i'd feel were i never to have expanded my worldview and tried things out that i normally wouldn't have. Sick of standing at the back of the student clubs with my arms folded, I soon made a point of trying to find the best in anything i heard. i figured if someone liked it, it must have some redeeming qualities, and that all along the problem wasn't the music or the people - it was me.
So very quickly after discovering ILM I realised that nearly everything in pop is relevant and relative to each other. Without Steely Dan you might not get Gayngs, but you arguably wouldn't get De La Soul who not only sampled SD, but also sampled Hall & Oates who are also an influence on Gayngs. And that's why I like music I guess.
― cosdelier baring through a bat in a fallman chantume (dog latin), Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
sorry, reread my posts and realised I might be coming across a bit high'n'mighty... apologies. i'm not here to talk about my life nor to slag people's tastes and opinions off so i'll leave this thread alone for a bit.
― cosdelier baring through a bat in a fallman chantume (dog latin), Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Dude, that's one of the best posts I've ever read on here about the subject! Hell, maybe one of the best things I've ever read anywhere on it.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link
hey, thanks!
― cosdelier baring through a bat in a fallman chantume (dog latin), Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link
my Coldplay dig was in reference to how appallingly weak the beat on "Cry" is; I know they are capable of recording decent-sounding drums because I heard "Shiver" playing at brunch on Sunday and was all "who is this band who is aping Coldplay but doing it much better? oh word? lol" but I do stand by my assertion that their baseline response to a rhythm section is to make it as limp as possible
the Interpol/Editors bit was re: the most prominent-to-my-ears vocal line (and I actually enjoy the one Editors album I own, but I have no delusions about their singer)
― DJP, Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
hey dan this is another project by gayngs main dude may be more to yr liking
Marijuana Deathsquads (feat P.O.S., members of Cows, Gayngs)
― he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link
when people start replacing the "oh you are from minneapolis? isnt that where prince and the replacements are from?" with "oh minneapolis? thats where gayngs, owl city and har mar superstar are from!" i am going to blame all yall.
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link
that is never going to happen
― max, Thursday, 24 February 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
though once i met a guy who told me that with the exception of paramore, "detroit isnt really a music city"
― max, Thursday, 24 February 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Lol waht
That is just... wau
― DJP, Thursday, 24 February 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
hahahaha oh god
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link
all i am saying though is when president superstar and senator owl city enact their final solution to enslave us all i will be reminding you of this thread in the reeducation fun zone line max
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Har Mar's BIL is beyond dope, tho
http://www.dibaunlimited.com/Media.php
― DJP, Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
― Tim F, Thursday, February 24, 2011 6:04 AM Bookmark
Wait, should I be checking for Destroyer? I always assumed they were sulky singer-songwritery stuff, not white goon music.
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Thursday, 24 February 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Still trying to figure out how liking Gayngs fits into this scenario.
― rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 24 February 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
New album is him trying to do just that.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 February 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Okay, the Destroyer song I checked out is totally white goon music and unsurprisingly I f/w it.
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Thursday, 24 February 2011 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link
just to be clear when the reeducation fun zone is built i will be a collaborator and will not be fraternizing with john justen
― max, Friday, 25 February 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link