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It's kind of weird that people find it really difficult to think that your attitude/opinion of a person can't change because of a visceral reaction to their artistic choices, positive or negative.

Also weird: people taking hyperbolic statements on ILM wholly at face value.

DJP, Thursday, 24 February 2011 03:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

all kinds of stuff is weird!

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 February 2011 03:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

but if u want to have a different conversation, i've known people in bands i really liked, people in bands i was indifferent to, and people in bands that sucked. it never changed how i felt about them personally!

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 February 2011 03:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah wtf. i have friends who are struggling in bands and maybe not making artistic choices i would or whatever but it doesn't effect how they treat me, our history, etc.

also what is with this unreconstructed notion of 'authenticity' (here, thought of as a lack of irony/smugness) as some sort of relevant factor as to how the actual arrangement of notes and timbres sounds? reminds of the vampire weekend backlash -- "just ... look at them! i bet they're really mean, and richer than me!"

i dunno it's like all music made by white dudes in northern cities has to be some sweaty prole flannel thing or what? is this what the 90s revival is going to look like? if so ugh. i don't know what's worse, that or this arch popist idea that tropes of 'high' (highly produced, selling, eg aor modern r&b) pop can't be appropriated by indie (whatever that means anymore) acts. it's just kneejerk and annoying. to be fair i had a kneejerk reaction to das racist much in the same way

but i dont know why im wasting my breath; ilm can't be any other way. maybe im really just baiting and hoping for the next round of flailing at trying to distinguish personal taste from some sort of objective reality, laden w/ obliquely hinted at class and race undertones, right?

also can we please never call any musician a 'hipster' ever again pls

teflon dawn (uptown churl), Thursday, 24 February 2011 03:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'd just like to state for the record that my objection to their cover of "Cry" has nothing to do with irony or hipsterism and everything to do with deeply annoying vocals over a boring, plodding beat. Basically if you think that cover is worth listening to, I can make you some fart recordings that will BLOW YOU MIND.

DJP, Thursday, 24 February 2011 04:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

pls bring cd-r when we chill in a few weeks

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 February 2011 04:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

done and done

DJP, Thursday, 24 February 2011 04:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

ysi?

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 24 February 2011 04:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

:)

fwiw my official position on this record is that it's prob a little more miss than hit but i'm glad it exists and i rock "gaudy side of town" all the time

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 February 2011 04:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

Hahaha sorry thread was out at bar

1. Peeps that are taking me srsly re: "oh no now i have to hate these people that are making music I don't care for" obv don't know me uh at all, also if this were true my day job would be a long slog through abject misery

2. I hate the cry cover because it is terrible pretty much for exactly the reasons that djp said - I hate the lazily pitchshifted vocals and the dragging pace and the clear feeling that the band seems to think that the original is laughable/lampoonable/shitty. All the hipster (did I actually use this because I try to never do so) irony etc stuff is ancillary to the major problem that this song is imo just musically and experientially unmistakably awful to listen to.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh and to max wondering if the backlash was because they are some ubiquitous mpls band - pretty much the opposite, because afaict no one here could give two shits about them.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

the clear feeling that the band seems to think that the original is laughable/lampoonable/shitty

i do not get this even 1 bit!! i mean i get your other criticisms, they are definitely going for a "sound" that i dont blame people for disliking, but i dont hear any kind of snickering going on at all.

max, Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh huh

max, Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

God I was wondering why this thread was revived. Don't think I listened to this again after I reviewed it.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

No reason to break that perfect record Ned

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

I shall maintain my streak. (Partially because I'm quite happily listening to the new Fabio Orci instead.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

He has beautiful flowing hair

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

I find this to be a proper thing.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think the problem is that the "Cry" cover is so bad that you kind of think they HAD to be joking when they recorded it, because the idea that they went into the studio going "this is an awesome song, we better do it justice" and ending up with that as the final output generates cognitive dissonance on par with watching the cutest kitten you can possibly imagine eat your screaming mother's eyes.

DJP, Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

Any typical Cure b-side lyric from 1984, then.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah ok DJP so otm it hurts

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

Tempted to do a Gayngs vs Owl City poll

DJP, Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

Like I kinda think that my feeling that this is a fucking lol lol pisstake is somewhat based on the fact that I respect some of these peeps and don't like thinking that they could make something this shitty without realizing how bad it is.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

max, Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

Hold on guys I have this strange feeling that max doesn't get my objections to this song but until I get a few more animated gifs I can't be sure

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

dude! i said that i get (some of) your objections! that is a "agree to disagree" shrug

max, Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah tbf at this point this is pretty much hate this song vs. don't get it so I'm kinda just irritated at myself for beating a dead horse I guess

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

you should have taken me up on my "agree to disagree" last night

max, Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

nothing to do with irony or hipsterism and everything to do with deeply annoying vocals over a boring, plodding beat

otm (also the coldplay comparison)

i think a lot of the other arguments made here are reactions to the idea that people can think execution like that is acceptable

lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 07:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

fwiw the other songs besides the 'cry' cover have different vocalists and different beats

max, Thursday, 24 February 2011 08:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

"gaudy side of town" singer is horrible as well

lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 08:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

Hating on "Cry" --> I can respect, it's one of my least favourite moments on the album.

Hating on "Gaudy Side of Town" --> I feel for bad for you.

Tim F, Thursday, 24 February 2011 08:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

I had no clue as to what this band sounded or looked like or whether they sported wry smiles in their music videos when I heard this, and to be honest I don't think I want to. I'd find it very hard to accept that Gayngs are making music that sounds like this and yet doing it ironically. There's very little funny in this music at all. Just sounds like 10CC as covered by Spiritualised, which is a great idea in my book and executed very well.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Thursday, 24 February 2011 12:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

Also - guys, really? Have you actually heard Coldplay? How the fuck is this like Coldplay?

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

insipid weak vocals and extremely boring arrangements and lack of any apparent songcraft

lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

TBH Gayngs would struggle to come up with a song as good (qua song) as "Viva La Vida" but that's not what they're about.

Tim F, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

"viva la vida" is a good song? that was always a "forget how it goes even before it's finished playing" one, so nothingy

lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

It is, but I'm not going to try to convince you of that lex.

Tim F, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

The fact that the Pet Shop Boys covered it probably doesn't help in lex's eyes.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

lex hates pet shop boys too?!?!

Tim F, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol that's such a weird cover. i can hear when coldplay do "good songs", ie just basically catchy tunes, like "clocks" and "god put a smile on your face" - "viva la vida" is not one of those

lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

i kinda hate PSB now? they haven't been good for like 15 years

lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

Of all the things you could accuse Coldplay of, "lack of any apparent songcraft" isn't one. The vocals/arrangements criticism - yeah, OK.

DL, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

Tell me that you feel differently up to and including Very though.

Tim F, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

i think apart from a select few of their hits coldplay are actually pretty bad at writing songs qua songs - so much of their stuff is in one ear, out the other. arrangements least offensive thing about them really, could almost be bland-in-a-good-way if it wasn't for his disgusting voice

xp have never heard any PSB album all the way through except for the greatest hits! (and one of the shit recent ones.) the only post-"can you forgive her" PSB song i like is "miracles".

lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

xp have never heard any PSB album all the way through except for the greatest hits! (and one of the shit recent ones.) the only post-"can you forgive her" PSB song i like is "miracles".

lex seriously I know about your contempo steez but between this and not even listening to the steely dan or can albums on your hard drive your willful blindness is verging on egregious atm, cut out just one night of searching for cassie leaks and attend to this.

All 5 early PSB albums are essential.

Tim F, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

Tim F OTM to the moon and back.

DL, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

haha i haven't listened to cassie for months.

i have WAY TOO MUCH MUSIC to listen to this week, dying beneath the pile of it all. still taking in new ones from nôze, k michelle, ginuwine, art department, wolf & lamb dj kicks, egyptrixx, kode9 & spaceape, killa kyleon, shackleton, fabrizio maurizi, phaedra, gang gang dance, the revenge, jenny hval, young gully, lupe fiasco, terre thaemlitz, WAKA. and for non-contempo stuff i appear to have downloaded the entire back catalogues of esperanza spalding, jean grae and everything but the girl. PSB/steely dan/can right back to the bottom of the pile.

lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah and the marsha ambrosius one too

lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

FTR I never cared much for the original but Gayngs' Cry is very pretty and slow and floaty and quite emotional to my ears.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:00 (3 years ago) Permalink


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