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DJP: No, but I do think that George Michael would be more on target.

Under Me Smang Tang (Doran), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

it's all sort of got that AOR sound (which i absolutely love anyways), but there's just tons of psych and kraut and funk bits that get lost in great songwriting and amazing production.

I think this is key. Trying to get a sense of what Gayngs are doing from either of those two tunes alone is pretty much impossible. I think tunes like "The Walker" and "Crystal Rope" are much more "representative".

Tim F, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

okay you cannot SERIOUSLY tell me you hear George Michael on the "Cry" cover, which is what that joke/comment was based on

maybe George Michael doing an Eeyore impersonation

DJP, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

No, not on Cry which is like a bunch of people singing. Cry's not really representative of the rest of the album.

Under Me Smang Tang (Doran), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

I know this was literally like half an hour ago but can I just point out the context here:

tbh I was going to see exactly what the fuss was about but the idea of a Godley & Creme cover terrifies me

― DJP, Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:19 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

oh what the hell, how bad could it be...

... um okay this is not starting off very auspiciously

― DJP, Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:20 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

so people were really dying for a Coldplay-meets-Interpol cover band...?

― DJP, Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:21 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

DJP, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Ok, I'm duly chastened but it did sound like you were sitting down to listen to the whole album.

Under Me Smang Tang (Doran), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I think okay is the whole album like this, because if so LOL might be a good indication that I wasn't listening to the entire album...?

DJP, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

also the fact that my listen concluded in 5 minutes

DJP, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, OK Ming The Merciless I get it... I didn't read your post very well and you're very clever and dastardly and run circles round me. I will pay more attention in future.

Under Me Smang Tang (Doran), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link

haha I don't think I've been called Ming the Merciless since high school

DJP, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link

guys lets not fight, the important thing here is that DJP has learned that this song is terrible and this band is embarrassing and awful

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link

It's a quality murk.

Under Me Smang Tang (Doran), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

not a great big fan of this band for reasons that aren't entirely about their music.

this 'crystal rope' tune is pretty good tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F_yoxY2Njk

for what it's worth, (i think) the leisure suits etc in that video aren't like a regular uniform for these guys, there was a big concert at first avenue here in mpls that was billed as a "prom", i think the video was filmed then. maybe that makes it worse if you're not into it! heh

goole, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

also, people complaining about the white tux lololwinkwinknudgenudge barfaroni party and i immediately thought of grady, who then came in to complain about it. hmmmm. caught you bro :D

jaxon, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

As always, when we first hear a new band, it's usually just a CDr with a one sheet. So the stuff that gets you into it is just the music. With Gayngs it's been a long and at times painful process of seeing a symbol made from a ganja leaf and a vagina, seeing loads of guys in white leisure suits, seeing the inner art sketch of them all in a hot tub with the singer getting blown, reading some of the goofy interviews, then finally hearing that they can be all fucking hipster irony and bro-ish live.

But the stuff that made me like the album in the first place remains cool and gripping despite this stuff. As someone hinted at upthread, none of this stuff is binary. Yeah, I wish they were sincere, genuinely cool people and not smug hipsters but that's got nothing, or very little, to do with the music they make.

Chap With Wings... Five Rounds Rapid (Doran), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

aaaaagggggghhhh wtf i just found out that the dude that drew the infamous hot tub picture is someone i used to hang out with all the time, its like this band is trying to singlehandedly make me hate all of these people i used to get along with ffs

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link

next thing you know it will be revealed that Slough Feg and Sleepytime Gorilla Museum contributed members to this and justen will lose it forever

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 24 February 2011 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link

aaaaagggggghhhh wtf i just found out that the dude that drew the infamous hot tub picture is someone i used to hang out with all the time, its like this band is trying to singlehandedly make me hate all of these people i used to get along with ffs

― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:10 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if you like all these people have you considered that maybe problem is... you? (i mean that in a nice way no/zing)

max, Thursday, 24 February 2011 02:23 (thirteen years ago) link

is this like a minneapolis thing tho where these guys are huge/unavoidable there? and sucking up all the oxygen or something?

max, Thursday, 24 February 2011 02:26 (thirteen years ago) link

i can see it being annoying if thats the case

max, Thursday, 24 February 2011 02:26 (thirteen years ago) link

jjj it's weird that you ostensibly like these guys personally but absolutely thoroughly refuse to give them the benefit of the doubt

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 February 2011 02:40 (thirteen years ago) link

It's kind of weird that people find it really difficult to think that your attitude/opinion of a person can't change because of a visceral reaction to their artistic choices, positive or negative.

Also weird: people taking hyperbolic statements on ILM wholly at face value.

DJP, Thursday, 24 February 2011 03:11 (thirteen years ago) link

all kinds of stuff is weird!

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 February 2011 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link

but if u want to have a different conversation, i've known people in bands i really liked, people in bands i was indifferent to, and people in bands that sucked. it never changed how i felt about them personally!

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 February 2011 03:18 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah wtf. i have friends who are struggling in bands and maybe not making artistic choices i would or whatever but it doesn't effect how they treat me, our history, etc.

also what is with this unreconstructed notion of 'authenticity' (here, thought of as a lack of irony/smugness) as some sort of relevant factor as to how the actual arrangement of notes and timbres sounds? reminds of the vampire weekend backlash -- "just ... look at them! i bet they're really mean, and richer than me!"

i dunno it's like all music made by white dudes in northern cities has to be some sweaty prole flannel thing or what? is this what the 90s revival is going to look like? if so ugh. i don't know what's worse, that or this arch popist idea that tropes of 'high' (highly produced, selling, eg aor modern r&b) pop can't be appropriated by indie (whatever that means anymore) acts. it's just kneejerk and annoying. to be fair i had a kneejerk reaction to das racist much in the same way

but i dont know why im wasting my breath; ilm can't be any other way. maybe im really just baiting and hoping for the next round of flailing at trying to distinguish personal taste from some sort of objective reality, laden w/ obliquely hinted at class and race undertones, right?

also can we please never call any musician a 'hipster' ever again pls

teflon dawn (uptown churl), Thursday, 24 February 2011 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd just like to state for the record that my objection to their cover of "Cry" has nothing to do with irony or hipsterism and everything to do with deeply annoying vocals over a boring, plodding beat. Basically if you think that cover is worth listening to, I can make you some fart recordings that will BLOW YOU MIND.

DJP, Thursday, 24 February 2011 04:17 (thirteen years ago) link

pls bring cd-r when we chill in a few weeks

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 February 2011 04:18 (thirteen years ago) link

done and done

DJP, Thursday, 24 February 2011 04:19 (thirteen years ago) link

ysi?

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 24 February 2011 04:20 (thirteen years ago) link

:)

fwiw my official position on this record is that it's prob a little more miss than hit but i'm glad it exists and i rock "gaudy side of town" all the time

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 February 2011 04:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Hahaha sorry thread was out at bar

1. Peeps that are taking me srsly re: "oh no now i have to hate these people that are making music I don't care for" obv don't know me uh at all, also if this were true my day job would be a long slog through abject misery

2. I hate the cry cover because it is terrible pretty much for exactly the reasons that djp said - I hate the lazily pitchshifted vocals and the dragging pace and the clear feeling that the band seems to think that the original is laughable/lampoonable/shitty. All the hipster (did I actually use this because I try to never do so) irony etc stuff is ancillary to the major problem that this song is imo just musically and experientially unmistakably awful to listen to.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh and to max wondering if the backlash was because they are some ubiquitous mpls band - pretty much the opposite, because afaict no one here could give two shits about them.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:13 (thirteen years ago) link

the clear feeling that the band seems to think that the original is laughable/lampoonable/shitty

i do not get this even 1 bit!! i mean i get your other criticisms, they are definitely going for a "sound" that i dont blame people for disliking, but i dont hear any kind of snickering going on at all.

max, Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:16 (thirteen years ago) link

oh huh

max, Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:16 (thirteen years ago) link

God I was wondering why this thread was revived. Don't think I listened to this again after I reviewed it.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:25 (thirteen years ago) link

No reason to break that perfect record Ned

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I shall maintain my streak. (Partially because I'm quite happily listening to the new Fabio Orci instead.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:31 (thirteen years ago) link

He has beautiful flowing hair

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I find this to be a proper thing.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the problem is that the "Cry" cover is so bad that you kind of think they HAD to be joking when they recorded it, because the idea that they went into the studio going "this is an awesome song, we better do it justice" and ending up with that as the final output generates cognitive dissonance on par with watching the cutest kitten you can possibly imagine eat your screaming mother's eyes.

DJP, Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Any typical Cure b-side lyric from 1984, then.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah ok DJP so otm it hurts

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Tempted to do a Gayngs vs Owl City poll

DJP, Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Like I kinda think that my feeling that this is a fucking lol lol pisstake is somewhat based on the fact that I respect some of these peeps and don't like thinking that they could make something this shitty without realizing how bad it is.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:20 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/1127092_o.gif

max, Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Hold on guys I have this strange feeling that max doesn't get my objections to this song but until I get a few more animated gifs I can't be sure

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:31 (thirteen years ago) link

dude! i said that i get (some of) your objections! that is a "agree to disagree" shrug

max, Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah tbf at this point this is pretty much hate this song vs. don't get it so I'm kinda just irritated at myself for beating a dead horse I guess

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:37 (thirteen years ago) link

you should have taken me up on my "agree to disagree" last night

max, Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:40 (thirteen years ago) link

nothing to do with irony or hipsterism and everything to do with deeply annoying vocals over a boring, plodding beat

otm (also the coldplay comparison)

i think a lot of the other arguments made here are reactions to the idea that people can think execution like that is acceptable

lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 07:59 (thirteen years ago) link


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