The purpose built next generation interstellar Dawn Richard thread

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yeah obviously there's a lot of nuance that it doesn't accurately measure -- i'm just saying there's this kind of assumption that it's universally regarded as the high point of her career that i don't think really holds water

some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 01:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

Realistically though Dawn Richard is highly unlikely to attain any success outside of that internet bubble (or an overlapping one) so it's not so misfounded or misleading a point of comparison.

If I say "maybe Dawn Richard's album is gonna be the 2011 equiv of Chain Letter" it's no more ridic, really.

Tim F, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah who knows if DR has any commercial potential (although LTTP might have legs enough to set her up well, who knows), but Blackout being singled out as a comparison point over all the other dancey Danja-produced R&B/pop albums of the last few years seemed kinda arbitrary.

some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

what other notable danja-produced R&B/pop albums are out there? (honest q)

Neu! romancer (dayo), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

i wanna know if the first 20 seconds to "let love in" are supposed to be part of the song or if it's part of another one - sounds absolutely heavenly

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

Really enjoying this but the shitty mixtape sound quality is really harshing my buzz. Why do these songs not sound louder?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 12:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

'Sounds louder' is usually a bad thing imo.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

i think he means the levels are quiet in an unmastered way that makes the whole thing sound less full/alive, which is a totally valid gripe and not at all an aesthetic thing.

"Hey" has not been singled out itt as a standout and that needs to be rectified.

dayo technology (some dude), Friday, 1 April 2011 20:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

what other notable danja-produced R&B/pop albums are out there? (honest q)

― Neu! romancer (dayo), Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:42 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

if we're talking stuff from when Danja was Timbaland's right hand man (and those should probably count since Danja had a huge influence on the sound of those records), Timberlake's FutureSex and Furtado's Loose. but i was referring to stuff heavy on Danja solo productions like Diddy's LTTP and Press Play, Keri Hilson's 1st album, Danity Kane's 2nd album, Katharine McPhee's 1st album.

dayo technology (some dude), Friday, 1 April 2011 21:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

"hey" is amazing yes

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

ship otm

"runway" & "vibrate" are also the joints off this

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

i like how the art for this album could double as a los campesinos cover

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

kmt

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

:D

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

i feel like an asshole for loving "vibrate" the most cuz it sounds like the one that terius & los would've done

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

do we actually have the production credits for this? i couldn't find them the other week. "vibrate" def in the "promise"/"devotion" lineage

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

if anything i feel bad for loving the swagged-out ones so much. I'M ON MY SUPERMAN SHIT, WHIPPIN UP TOWN, BLOWIN UP SHIIEEET

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

that's why "runway" is the best -- bragging about her hair being real

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

NO HORSES UP HERE

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

exactly

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

they say they new guccis but i had em last year
i'm rocking everything that you really wanna wear

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

i also like to think that naomi campbell references in r&b have proliferated precisely because of her capacity for assault & battery with swarovski-encrusted blackberrys

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

do we actually have the production credits for this? i couldn't find them the other week. "vibrate" def in the "promise"/"devotion" lineage

haha, no longer feel weird for suggesting to kev k that vibrate kinda sounds like promise

dayo, Saturday, 2 April 2011 10:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

props to Tim F for an excellent thread title that grabbed my attention and got me to listen to this, because I probably would've ignored it otherwise. listening for the first time now, and it's amazing!

I think I fell in love with her the second I saw there was a song called "Me Myself & Y" (not quite living up to the title, especially following up the excellent excellent "Hey", but still pretty good)

bernard snowy, Saturday, 2 April 2011 12:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh and now "Broken Record" is up next — poor lil "MMY", sandwiched in between these two motherfucking monsters

bernard snowy, Saturday, 2 April 2011 12:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

okay I realize that confessing this will probably make me public enemy #1 on this thread, but I still haven't listened to Last Train — just couldn't get excited about it, honestly. but if it's anywhere near Tell Tale Heart in terms of production and atmosphere/mood...

bernard snowy, Saturday, 2 April 2011 14:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah TTH is very close to LTTP in sound and mood, definitely check it out. better late than never!

sarraghmaclachlan (some dude), Saturday, 2 April 2011 14:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

dope:

doper:

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 23 June 2011 02:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

I really wish there was a CDQ version of Tell Tale Heart... or at least one that isn't so compressed and muddy sounding

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 23 June 2011 02:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

^^^

i thought this was just gonna be a prelude to an album proper but everything's gone a bit quiet on the dawn richard front? this is still amazing though

HE ON ME LIKE BUTTER ON BREAD
FRONT ROW WHEN I'M DOIN MY DANCE

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Monday, 14 November 2011 16:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

official title is the prelude to a tell tale heart, right?

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Monday, 14 November 2011 16:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

so sad you bumped this when I didn't have any dawn richard synced to my iphone

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 14 November 2011 18:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

haha i totally relate, h8 it when that happens

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Monday, 14 November 2011 18:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

where is dawn richard :[

― dayo, Thursday, 17 November 2011 22:39 (Yesterday)

The mixtape (which is my 2nd favourite album of 2011) is so good that it's hard for me not to think of it as her debut album.

― Tim F, Friday, November 18, 2011 12:45 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

sez wikipedia (sics all over the place):

The Mix-tape The Prelude to A Tell Tale Heart or alternate title: #ATellTaleHeart[9][10][11] was released February 7, 2011 on her official web-site. There are 15 tracks.[10][12] It called "the prelude to..." because there will be official debut studio album by Dawn Richard entitled A-Tell Tale Heart, which she is working on for past 3 years.[13] She is working with Trendsetter (producer) on few tracks for that album.[14][15] Celebrating the release of her mix-tape, Dawn Richard organized several club events. On February 7, 2011 at "Milan" club in Baltimore[16][17] and on February 12, 2011 at PHX – "Nightclub MIXTAPE PARTY RELEASE".[18]

Dawn has announced that her major solo debut project will be a broken up trilogy of albums entitled "GoldenHeart, "BlackHeart", and "RedemptionHeart". "GoldenHeart", the first of the trilogy is expected to be released late 2011.[19] On June 19, 2011 a buzz track entitled "Stuck On Mad" was released to the public. Followed by a release of a remix to Frank Ocean's Novacane. The remix which was co-written by songwriter Intyce, hit the net on June 21, 2011 and reached over 5000 downloads within a few hours. Intyce was enlisted as one of the writers for Richards solo debut.[20]

2011-present: Golden Heart

SMFU (SAVE ME FROM U) was released on the internet 31st October and is set to be on the first album.[21] This album is set to have an concept of a alter-ego named NEON. The concept has not yet been discussed.

― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Friday, November 18, 2011 2:12 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i am d/lding "stuck on mad" and "smfu" now. no one mentioned them. and yeah putting together my EOY lists dawn ended up at #5, higher than i thought she would.

also she started following me on tumblr!

― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Friday, November 18, 2011 2:13 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

dayo, Friday, 18 November 2011 11:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

^^ luv it

dayo, Friday, 18 November 2011 11:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

dayo, Friday, 18 November 2011 11:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

really feelin this too

dayo, Friday, 18 November 2011 12:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

not gonna go through all of dawn's tumblr lol but this is good too

http://concreteloop.com/2011/09/new-music-dawn-richard-love-wont-lose

think it's produced by the same guy who did the valentine's day mix of lttp?

dayo, Friday, 18 November 2011 12:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

i am d/lding "stuck on mad" and "smfu" now. no one mentioned them

brainwasher posted stuck on mad just upthread!

just sayin, Friday, 18 November 2011 12:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol I think I missed that :/

dayo, Friday, 18 November 2011 13:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

SFMU is a jam though

dayo, Friday, 18 November 2011 13:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

kalenna's mixtape drops on monday, too

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://www.ddotomen.com/2012/02/13/kalenna-of-dirty-money-chamber-of-diaries/

the dirty money fans have apparently abandoned ilx judging from the tumbleweave here i guess?

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 13 February 2012 14:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

mixtape is worth copping? i'm with it

some dude, Monday, 13 February 2012 14:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

there is WAY too much ryan tedder on that tracklist for me to feel comfortable

J0rdan S., Monday, 13 February 2012 14:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

so far I'm only interested in dawn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Monday, 13 February 2012 14:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah it's great - some excellent beats, she's very charismatic, you wouldn't be able to tell ryan tedder was on it. only given it one cursory listen cuz am on double deadline and have to listen to other stuff today :(

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 13 February 2012 14:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

Looking forward to this, but much further to the outskirts of the media ecosystem than you, Lex - keen to hear yr thoughts.

etc, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

media ecosystem?

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 13 February 2012 17:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

We should avoid praising albums for how Important they are.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 March 2015 12:10 (1 week ago) Permalink

Importance is slippery, but I think worth talking about -- if only to broaden the notion of what counts as important. (e.g., I was glad "You Don't Own Me" was given so much credit for importance in the Lesley Gore obits.) I don't love Blackheart because it's important, I love it because it blows my mind and sounds amazing on the stereo. But I do also think it's important, and oughta be recognized as such.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 22 March 2015 12:34 (1 week ago) Permalink

I wasn't looking at you, tipsy, but at the suspicion that Sullivan's album is good but lacks the marquee value of D'Angelo or Kendrick Lamar's. btw listen to it!

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 March 2015 12:36 (1 week ago) Permalink

Haha I was just thinking that I need to. I will!

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 22 March 2015 12:44 (1 week ago) Permalink

I didn't say it wasn't important, I said it wasn't high-concept.

Matt DC, Sunday, 22 March 2015 13:33 (1 week ago) Permalink

reality show / blackheart / black messiah / to pimp a butterfly all amazing high-concept albums (reality show more subtly so) that i love and it's a shame that both jazmine and dawn aren't getting the kind of broad critical raves that D and Kendrick are.

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 22 March 2015 19:29 (1 week ago) Permalink

Jazmine and Dawn are getting ignored by many critics. Dawn, in large part part because for some reason some media sites act as if they can't find a smal indie project like hers; and I guess Sullivan is somehow just cursed with being r'n'b and not "high concept" "indie/artsy" r'n'b . But you all know that.

Some of that attention for the likes of D'angelo and now Lamar almost makes me want to be contrarian and ignore both of them for just being crit-bait. Former Voice writer Greg Tate who doesn't do much writing these days, suddenly penning a Lamar review in Rolling Stone seems typical (and I have long loved Tate's writing)-- jazz elements check; spoken word check; P-funk aspects check; socio-political lyrics check. I bet he likes the Sullivan one too, or would if he heard it, but will anyone let him write about it without high concept aspects or retro signifiers?

curmudgeon, Monday, 23 March 2015 13:56 (1 week ago) Permalink

That's what I was getting at in my post, but let's be clear: Kendrick Lamar draws clicks, Jazmine Sullivan doesn't.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 March 2015 14:24 (1 week ago) Permalink

Sadly true.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:19 (6 days ago) Permalink

Agreed -- and btw having caught up on the Jazmine Sullivan album, I am totally on board with it, great record. Even in a perfect world, the D'Angelo and Kendrick albums have some built-in hype generators that are going to eclipse a lot of other worthy things. It's just jarring that so much of what's lauded about those two -- ambition, adventurousness, musicianship, personal vision, sheer talent -- is also true of the Dawn/Jazmine albums that you'd hope there would at least be a little more notice.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:30 (6 days ago) Permalink

#BlackWomenVisionariesMatter

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:31 (6 days ago) Permalink

I love Dawn's album but it feels diffuse in a way that Kendrick's doesn't. I listen to it way WAY more than D'Angelo, though.

DJP, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:48 (6 days ago) Permalink

built-in hype generators

well it's exactly these that don't get interrogated, isn't it

lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:57 (6 days ago) Permalink


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