The purpose built next generation interstellar Dawn Richard thread

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does 'blackout'-era britney have much crossover w/ this stuff? i'm listening to "radar" (love love love) right now and i could see the drama being pitched up slightly in a way that would totally fit w/ the 'LTTP sound'

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 06:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

"vibrate" is nuts

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 07:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

i'd love to hear a version of a tell tale heart where several of the songs didn't sound like they were recorded underwater

YES (i mean, i assume this will be the actual album if and when it emerges)

blackout's a good comparison point, i mentioned it in my LTTP review from the "constant surprising sonic thrillz" standpoint, but re: dawn specifically there's also that impulse to get drunk and curse and act out sexually running through it (though obv she's coming at it from a more controlled persona...)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 08:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah she's interesting in that she's a controlled singer doing "unhinged" R&B - there are aspects of this album that remind me of K Michelle and Fantasia and J Hudson and Brooke Valentine in parts but it's mostly sonic rather than vocal.

This works for me though I'll have to think about why, can't come up with a neat explanation for it yet.

Tim F, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

i'm still unbelievably pissed off that my chat w/dawn and kalenna has been lost to the vagaries of hard drive death - they said some really interesting things, esp re: their differing singing/songwriting styles, and both generally came across as totally smart and totally on it, and a bit like...necessary to keep diddy down to earth?

tim, you heard the last danity kane album right? if not, omg you need it. (i probably need their first one! never heard it)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

I think I heard and liked the singles? I can't remember now if I checked out the album or not.

In my head I kind of just slot Danity Kane as halfway between Dream and Pussycat Dolls and keep forgetting that this is based purely on pop-cultural arithmetic rather than what they actually sound like.

Tim F, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

it's not entirely offbase w/r/t what they sound like either

that was probably one of my favourites off the album, which made a really great companion piece at the time to...blackout, as it happens - danja helmed a good chunk of it and most of the beats were rather great.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

"bulletproof" is so immense, steel pistons grinding into motion

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 12:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

Love "Superhero"

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 20:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/dawnangelique

Wrong-Way Willy (Andy K), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

any good?

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

booty in da pants

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

does 'blackout'-era britney have much crossover w/ this stuff? i'm listening to "radar" (love love love) right now and i could see the drama being pitched up slightly in a way that would totally fit w/ the 'LTTP sound'

― pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:42 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

um aside from multiple beats by Danja on both albums i don't really see any connection beyond urban-leaning pop and pop-leaning rap/R&B kinda meeting each other halfway. also lol @ blackout-era britney like that's some kind of defining touchstone of anything outside the ilx hivemind.

some dude, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

it's a defining touchstone of the pop genre, i think - almost certainly the most critically acclaimed of her albums

lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

the popjustice crowd (and most top 40/pop fans I've talked to) generally consider it to be the best pop album of at least the second half of the decade, if that means anything

prolego, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah i was exaggerating about it being a big deal only on ilm but calling it her most critically acclaimed album is i think pretty off -- on metacritic it's 3% lower than Circus, 5% lower than In The Zone, 11% lower than Oops -- it's only put on a pedestal in a very particular internet bubble.

some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 01:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

Eh, Metacritic only analyzes initial reviews, not an album's long-term legacy.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 01:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah obviously there's a lot of nuance that it doesn't accurately measure -- i'm just saying there's this kind of assumption that it's universally regarded as the high point of her career that i don't think really holds water

some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 01:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

Realistically though Dawn Richard is highly unlikely to attain any success outside of that internet bubble (or an overlapping one) so it's not so misfounded or misleading a point of comparison.

If I say "maybe Dawn Richard's album is gonna be the 2011 equiv of Chain Letter" it's no more ridic, really.

Tim F, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah who knows if DR has any commercial potential (although LTTP might have legs enough to set her up well, who knows), but Blackout being singled out as a comparison point over all the other dancey Danja-produced R&B/pop albums of the last few years seemed kinda arbitrary.

some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

what other notable danja-produced R&B/pop albums are out there? (honest q)

Neu! romancer (dayo), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

i wanna know if the first 20 seconds to "let love in" are supposed to be part of the song or if it's part of another one - sounds absolutely heavenly

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

Really enjoying this but the shitty mixtape sound quality is really harshing my buzz. Why do these songs not sound louder?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 12:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

'Sounds louder' is usually a bad thing imo.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

i think he means the levels are quiet in an unmastered way that makes the whole thing sound less full/alive, which is a totally valid gripe and not at all an aesthetic thing.

"Hey" has not been singled out itt as a standout and that needs to be rectified.

dayo technology (some dude), Friday, 1 April 2011 20:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

what other notable danja-produced R&B/pop albums are out there? (honest q)

― Neu! romancer (dayo), Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:42 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

if we're talking stuff from when Danja was Timbaland's right hand man (and those should probably count since Danja had a huge influence on the sound of those records), Timberlake's FutureSex and Furtado's Loose. but i was referring to stuff heavy on Danja solo productions like Diddy's LTTP and Press Play, Keri Hilson's 1st album, Danity Kane's 2nd album, Katharine McPhee's 1st album.

dayo technology (some dude), Friday, 1 April 2011 21:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

"hey" is amazing yes

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

ship otm

"runway" & "vibrate" are also the joints off this

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

i like how the art for this album could double as a los campesinos cover

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

kmt

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

:D

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

i feel like an asshole for loving "vibrate" the most cuz it sounds like the one that terius & los would've done

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

do we actually have the production credits for this? i couldn't find them the other week. "vibrate" def in the "promise"/"devotion" lineage

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

if anything i feel bad for loving the swagged-out ones so much. I'M ON MY SUPERMAN SHIT, WHIPPIN UP TOWN, BLOWIN UP SHIIEEET

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

that's why "runway" is the best -- bragging about her hair being real

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

NO HORSES UP HERE

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

exactly

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

they say they new guccis but i had em last year
i'm rocking everything that you really wanna wear

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

i also like to think that naomi campbell references in r&b have proliferated precisely because of her capacity for assault & battery with swarovski-encrusted blackberrys

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

do we actually have the production credits for this? i couldn't find them the other week. "vibrate" def in the "promise"/"devotion" lineage

haha, no longer feel weird for suggesting to kev k that vibrate kinda sounds like promise

dayo, Saturday, 2 April 2011 10:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

props to Tim F for an excellent thread title that grabbed my attention and got me to listen to this, because I probably would've ignored it otherwise. listening for the first time now, and it's amazing!

I think I fell in love with her the second I saw there was a song called "Me Myself & Y" (not quite living up to the title, especially following up the excellent excellent "Hey", but still pretty good)

bernard snowy, Saturday, 2 April 2011 12:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

oh and now "Broken Record" is up next — poor lil "MMY", sandwiched in between these two motherfucking monsters

bernard snowy, Saturday, 2 April 2011 12:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

okay I realize that confessing this will probably make me public enemy #1 on this thread, but I still haven't listened to Last Train — just couldn't get excited about it, honestly. but if it's anywhere near Tell Tale Heart in terms of production and atmosphere/mood...

bernard snowy, Saturday, 2 April 2011 14:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah TTH is very close to LTTP in sound and mood, definitely check it out. better late than never!

sarraghmaclachlan (some dude), Saturday, 2 April 2011 14:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

dope:

doper:

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 23 June 2011 02:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

I really wish there was a CDQ version of Tell Tale Heart... or at least one that isn't so compressed and muddy sounding

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 23 June 2011 02:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

^^^

i thought this was just gonna be a prelude to an album proper but everything's gone a bit quiet on the dawn richard front? this is still amazing though

HE ON ME LIKE BUTTER ON BREAD
FRONT ROW WHEN I'M DOIN MY DANCE

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Monday, 14 November 2011 16:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

official title is the prelude to a tell tale heart, right?

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Monday, 14 November 2011 16:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

so sad you bumped this when I didn't have any dawn richard synced to my iphone

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 14 November 2011 18:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

haha i totally relate, h8 it when that happens

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Monday, 14 November 2011 18:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

after D∆NITY KAN3 runs its course

fetty wap, kombucha, where to trap queen (some dude), Monday, 8 June 2015 16:24 (1 month ago) Permalink

I just received the 5.4-inch floppy drive with the symbols!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 June 2015 16:28 (1 month ago) Permalink

i dunno about this adult swim track exactly

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2015 16:36 (1 month ago) Permalink

it's kind of whatever

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 8 June 2015 16:43 (1 month ago) Permalink

Like everything she's done since Armor On, it's nice but underwhelming.

Her career bums me out. She's so talented, but also seems to have no direction. She just tosses music and projects out there, hoping something will stick, w/o ever throwing her full weight behind a single project.

Evan R, Monday, 8 June 2015 16:45 (1 month ago) Permalink

Like everything she's done since Armor On, it's nice but underwhelming.

:|

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 8 June 2015 16:48 (1 month ago) Permalink

Blackheart is fully realized and her best album to date.

This track is closer to the overtones of Goldenheart

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 June 2015 16:48 (1 month ago) Permalink

http://www.lovebscott.com/news/dawn-talks-new-music-new-projects-owning-her-new-look-show

“I’m super excited because Ester Dean has the first single. I had an opportunity to really stretch my wings out and I’m gonna bring it back home to what I’ve done mainstream-wise and what I’ve done commercially as a writer and really work with Ester Dean to get a big smash. She’s got me with this monster [hit], so we’re gonna release that. Look for our Summer release of that.

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 11 June 2015 06:02 (1 month ago) Permalink

She just tosses music and projects out there

I wholly disagree, I think she and her producers are exploring the shared space between art-pop and R&B, and it's mostly unexplored territory and there's a lot of ground to cover, a lot of possibilities.

got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Thursday, 11 June 2015 13:28 (1 month ago) Permalink

I smh at people who prefer Blackheart to Goldenheart, but maintain that it's a mix- or master- issue. Goldenheart is perfect songs throughout, but is mixed and mastered like a Bon Iver record, all space and no pressure. Blackheart is all pressure and bop but has such a weak front-half that I'm amazed that people even compare the two.

got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Thursday, 11 June 2015 13:30 (1 month ago) Permalink

Also I may have already said this but stop if you don't want the song changed forever once you notice Dawn dropping her consonants on "The Deep" you're always gonna hear it as "I took it to the D" which is a fun line to get in your head at some points in your day

got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Thursday, 11 June 2015 13:32 (1 month ago) Permalink

Blackheart is fully realized and her best album to date.

This track is closer to the overtones of Goldenheart

eh nah it's like an underwritten blackheart track

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:39 (1 month ago) Permalink

anyway fgti otm even though i do prefer blackheart, and the front half has fucking adderall/sold

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:40 (1 month ago) Permalink

The front half of Blackheart is maybe the best music she's ever made on her own.

The Reverend, Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:08 (1 month ago) Permalink

I know that the main reason I like "Calypso" so much is because of the rampant Twin Peaks sampling but still, I really really REALLY like it.

DJP, Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:09 (1 month ago) Permalink

we're almost halfway in and it's still in my top four albums of the year

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:10 (1 month ago) Permalink

it's highly possible that blackheart will end up being my favorite album of the year

j. winters (josh), Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:42 (1 month ago) Permalink

Goldenheart is perfect songs throughout, but is mixed and mastered like a Bon Iver record, all space and no pressure. Blackheart is all pressure and bop but has such a weak front-half that I'm amazed that people even compare the two.

None or this is true at all! In what way does Pretty Wicked Things have more space than Swim Free? The main problem with Goldenheart is sequencing, its pace is just wearying.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:48 (1 month ago) Permalink

One of the reasons I dislike Blow is that it feels about a third slower than it should be, it hits that laboured trudging pace that Dawn employs for so much of Goldenheart.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:51 (1 month ago) Permalink

I know that the main reason I like "Calypso" so much is because of the rampant Twin Peaks sampling but still, I really really REALLY like it.

― DJP, Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

for me it's the glitchy robotic vocoder parts

, Thursday, 11 June 2015 21:22 (1 month ago) Permalink

always think of this

, Thursday, 11 June 2015 21:23 (1 month ago) Permalink

Not that the album form needed saving for me but "Blackheart" is the strongest statement on its behalf I've heard in a few years.

geoffreyess, Friday, 12 June 2015 00:36 (1 month ago) Permalink

Dawn performing in a Targé Ménage live session for BBC 1extra last night with Bonkaz:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02v409j

Video clips on her Twitter feed as well.

Jeff W, Saturday, 20 June 2015 10:23 (1 month ago) Permalink

THE RED ERA IS COMING https://twitter.com/DawnRichard/status/615723722901602305

j. winters (josh), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 03:43 (1 month ago) Permalink

yow

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 03:44 (1 month ago) Permalink

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 July 2015 14:33 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

^namedropping biff naked, missy and the cranberries there

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 July 2015 14:38 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

https://soundcloud.com/dawn_richard/dwn-roses

RED ERA, MOTHERFUCKERS

drown zoowap (The Reverend), Thursday, 30 July 2015 07:33 (Yesterday) Permalink

if it's all this sumptuous, I might just float off into the cosmos

drown zoowap (The Reverend), Thursday, 30 July 2015 07:49 (Yesterday) Permalink

well this is exciting

let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 30 July 2015 14:15 (Yesterday) Permalink


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