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actually...the whole run from intro (the fall) to the end is :O

mumflop & sons (dayo), Monday, 21 February 2011 13:10 (five years ago) Permalink

^^^^

Tim F, Monday, 21 February 2011 13:24 (five years ago) Permalink

finally sitting down with A Tell Tale Heart and damn yeah, this is great. very considerate of the Diddy-Dirty Money folks to already start turning Last Train To Paris into its own little genre with the release of this and the Valentine's Day mixtape just a couple months later.

funny that I was the first person to mention this record's existence on ILM but like the 30th to actually hear it.

some dude, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:59 (five years ago) Permalink

finally hearing her voice in isolation for extended periods of time is nice, too; the slightly raspy grain is a bit like Brandy but not too much.

some dude, Monday, 21 February 2011 20:01 (five years ago) Permalink

talking of the LTTP mini-genre, did everyone hear the lektro black mixtape diddy did with felix da housecat that was meant to precede it (well, it did precede it, just by a year rather than a few months)? one of the most banging hours of music i've ever heard. http://rcrdlbl.com/2009/08/14/exclusive_new_download_felix_da_housecat_x_diddy_lectro_black_last_train_to_paris_mixtape

lex pretend, Monday, 21 February 2011 20:08 (five years ago) Permalink

digging the version of "I Know" on here, too, you could slot this right in place of the album version on LTTP and get closer to an ideal Chris Brown-less version of the album.

some dude, Monday, 21 February 2011 20:11 (five years ago) Permalink

finally hearing her voice in isolation for extended periods of time is nice, too; the slightly raspy grain is a bit like Brandy but not too much.

Brandy is a useful comparison point actually, in some ways this is like Full Moon if it was an album of straight bangers.

Tim F, Monday, 21 February 2011 21:47 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah i love this mixtape. Have to listen more but i think "vibrate" is my favorite

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:12 (five years ago) Permalink

i wonder what it is about dawn that made diddy keep her around after the dissolution of dannity kane

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Wasn't she the best singer out of everyone in Danity Kane? I mean there is nothing about her that screams "super star" but I think the pop/r&b audience are so use to big personalities that a straight forward singer may seem boring. Dawn isn't boring per se but maybe Diddy needed a "real" singer around Bad Boy since Cassie was the only female for a little spell after Danity Kane split up.

Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:32 (five years ago) Permalink

i really know nothing about danity kane or any of its members, but being the best singer makes sense

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:33 (five years ago) Permalink

I never listen to a note of Danity Kane as I don't like the idea of 5 person singing group. I saw a video of her performing with Diddy doing "Last Night" waaayy back and assumed she was better than the other four.

Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Danity Kane, anyone?

prescience from brainwasher!

well at least we'll be getting a Dawn solo album I guess.

― Put A Ring On It (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, October 15, 2008 2:39 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 00:02 (five years ago) Permalink

i'd love to hear a version of a tell tale heart where several of the songs didn't sound like they were recorded underwater

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 04:42 (five years ago) Permalink

does 'blackout'-era britney have much crossover w/ this stuff? i'm listening to "radar" (love love love) right now and i could see the drama being pitched up slightly in a way that would totally fit w/ the 'LTTP sound'

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 06:42 (five years ago) Permalink

"vibrate" is nuts

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 07:13 (five years ago) Permalink

i'd love to hear a version of a tell tale heart where several of the songs didn't sound like they were recorded underwater

YES (i mean, i assume this will be the actual album if and when it emerges)

blackout's a good comparison point, i mentioned it in my LTTP review from the "constant surprising sonic thrillz" standpoint, but re: dawn specifically there's also that impulse to get drunk and curse and act out sexually running through it (though obv she's coming at it from a more controlled persona...)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 08:08 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah she's interesting in that she's a controlled singer doing "unhinged" R&B - there are aspects of this album that remind me of K Michelle and Fantasia and J Hudson and Brooke Valentine in parts but it's mostly sonic rather than vocal.

This works for me though I'll have to think about why, can't come up with a neat explanation for it yet.

Tim F, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:03 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm still unbelievably pissed off that my chat w/dawn and kalenna has been lost to the vagaries of hard drive death - they said some really interesting things, esp re: their differing singing/songwriting styles, and both generally came across as totally smart and totally on it, and a bit like...necessary to keep diddy down to earth?

tim, you heard the last danity kane album right? if not, omg you need it. (i probably need their first one! never heard it)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:07 (five years ago) Permalink

I think I heard and liked the singles? I can't remember now if I checked out the album or not.

In my head I kind of just slot Danity Kane as halfway between Dream and Pussycat Dolls and keep forgetting that this is based purely on pop-cultural arithmetic rather than what they actually sound like.

Tim F, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:11 (five years ago) Permalink

it's not entirely offbase w/r/t what they sound like either

that was probably one of my favourites off the album, which made a really great companion piece at the time to...blackout, as it happens - danja helmed a good chunk of it and most of the beats were rather great.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:14 (five years ago) Permalink

"bulletproof" is so immense, steel pistons grinding into motion

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 12:20 (five years ago) Permalink

Love "Superhero"

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 20:46 (five years ago) Permalink

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/dawnangelique

Wrong-Way Willy (Andy K), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:33 (five years ago) Permalink

any good?

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:49 (five years ago) Permalink

booty in da pants

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:50 (five years ago) Permalink

does 'blackout'-era britney have much crossover w/ this stuff? i'm listening to "radar" (love love love) right now and i could see the drama being pitched up slightly in a way that would totally fit w/ the 'LTTP sound'

― pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:42 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

um aside from multiple beats by Danja on both albums i don't really see any connection beyond urban-leaning pop and pop-leaning rap/R&B kinda meeting each other halfway. also lol @ blackout-era britney like that's some kind of defining touchstone of anything outside the ilx hivemind.

some dude, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:57 (five years ago) Permalink

it's a defining touchstone of the pop genre, i think - almost certainly the most critically acclaimed of her albums

lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:02 (five years ago) Permalink

the popjustice crowd (and most top 40/pop fans I've talked to) generally consider it to be the best pop album of at least the second half of the decade, if that means anything

prolego, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:23 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah i was exaggerating about it being a big deal only on ilm but calling it her most critically acclaimed album is i think pretty off -- on metacritic it's 3% lower than Circus, 5% lower than In The Zone, 11% lower than Oops -- it's only put on a pedestal in a very particular internet bubble.

some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 01:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Eh, Metacritic only analyzes initial reviews, not an album's long-term legacy.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 01:24 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah obviously there's a lot of nuance that it doesn't accurately measure -- i'm just saying there's this kind of assumption that it's universally regarded as the high point of her career that i don't think really holds water

some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 01:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Realistically though Dawn Richard is highly unlikely to attain any success outside of that internet bubble (or an overlapping one) so it's not so misfounded or misleading a point of comparison.

If I say "maybe Dawn Richard's album is gonna be the 2011 equiv of Chain Letter" it's no more ridic, really.

Tim F, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:29 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah who knows if DR has any commercial potential (although LTTP might have legs enough to set her up well, who knows), but Blackout being singled out as a comparison point over all the other dancey Danja-produced R&B/pop albums of the last few years seemed kinda arbitrary.

some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:36 (five years ago) Permalink

what other notable danja-produced R&B/pop albums are out there? (honest q)

Neu! romancer (dayo), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:42 (five years ago) Permalink

i wanna know if the first 20 seconds to "let love in" are supposed to be part of the song or if it's part of another one - sounds absolutely heavenly

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Really enjoying this but the shitty mixtape sound quality is really harshing my buzz. Why do these songs not sound louder?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 12:05 (five years ago) Permalink

'Sounds louder' is usually a bad thing imo.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:47 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

i think he means the levels are quiet in an unmastered way that makes the whole thing sound less full/alive, which is a totally valid gripe and not at all an aesthetic thing.

"Hey" has not been singled out itt as a standout and that needs to be rectified.

dayo technology (some dude), Friday, 1 April 2011 20:57 (five years ago) Permalink

what other notable danja-produced R&B/pop albums are out there? (honest q)

― Neu! romancer (dayo), Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:42 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

if we're talking stuff from when Danja was Timbaland's right hand man (and those should probably count since Danja had a huge influence on the sound of those records), Timberlake's FutureSex and Furtado's Loose. but i was referring to stuff heavy on Danja solo productions like Diddy's LTTP and Press Play, Keri Hilson's 1st album, Danity Kane's 2nd album, Katharine McPhee's 1st album.

dayo technology (some dude), Friday, 1 April 2011 21:02 (five years ago) Permalink

"hey" is amazing yes

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:27 (five years ago) Permalink

ship otm

"runway" & "vibrate" are also the joints off this

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:39 (five years ago) Permalink

i like how the art for this album could double as a los campesinos cover

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:46 (five years ago) Permalink

kmt

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:46 (five years ago) Permalink

:D

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:47 (five years ago) Permalink

i feel like an asshole for loving "vibrate" the most cuz it sounds like the one that terius & los would've done

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:48 (five years ago) Permalink

do we actually have the production credits for this? i couldn't find them the other week. "vibrate" def in the "promise"/"devotion" lineage

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:50 (five years ago) Permalink

if anything i feel bad for loving the swagged-out ones so much. I'M ON MY SUPERMAN SHIT, WHIPPIN UP TOWN, BLOWIN UP SHIIEEET

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:51 (five years ago) Permalink

that's why "runway" is the best -- bragging about her hair being real

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:52 (five years ago) Permalink

NO HORSES UP HERE

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:52 (five years ago) Permalink

freelancer for Washington Post likes her gig in tiny 2nd floor club

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/dawn-richard-continues-the-part-at-the-fringes-of-electronic-randb-at-dc9/2016/03/15/2627c4c8-eab2-11e5-b0fd-073d5930a7b7_story.html

Both Richard and the audience fed off each other’s energy as the singer hopped through her discography, seemingly touched by the audience’s ecstatic reaction to every song, no matter how obscure. Focusing on the dancier side of her catalogue, Richard was a siren over propulsive grooves, synthesized melodies and waves of bass. She also dazzled with her dancing, balancing pneumatic contortions with sensuality.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 14:50 (five months ago) Permalink

I went to that; loved it. I had heard said about past shows that her performances had been kinda aimless or lackadaisical or something, but I didn't get that at all. She seemed totally committed (even though the 200-person club wasn't close to sold out) and sounded great. Crowd was great, too.

dc, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 15:09 (five months ago) Permalink

That room would be wall to wall people with 200 jammed into it. Probably wasn't sold out as that club usually just has obscure rock bands

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 16:04 (five months ago) Permalink

I wish she would come to Seattle. The only time she was supposed to (circa Goldenheart), it got canceled.

Hey (Extended Mix), Thursday, 17 March 2016 11:20 (five months ago) Permalink

as far as I can tell, this et aliae/Dawn track was never posted here, and it's quite pleasant.

fffv, Thursday, 17 March 2016 20:18 (five months ago) Permalink

Dawn, the Carpenter - http://www.mtv.com/news/2858256/dawn-richard-redemption-heart/?xrs=_s.tw_news

Jeff W, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 19:14 (four months ago) Permalink

good interview

Hey (Extended Mix), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 20:23 (four months ago) Permalink

It's hard out there for a carpenter

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 20:29 (four months ago) Permalink

great interview! glad it's all finally happening in terms of critical attention at least

there's been quite a lot to be suspicious of aesthetically recently (...the name change) but otoh "dance", "hollywould" and "not above that" are all fucking great. also she's working with jimmy edgar??? i hope there's no tuning down of anything, i hope it's the rawest house banger he can do

cher guevara (lex pretend), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 11:00 (four months ago) Permalink

in june she's coming to portugal and i will see her live for the first time. i still can't believe it will happen.

Nourry, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 11:20 (four months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

I have no idea what this is on about, but you probably do:
http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/18/11451170/first-youtube-360-video-live-stream-date-dawn-richard-verge

Jeff W, Monday, 18 April 2016 18:31 (four months ago) Permalink

At one point she was scheduled to play in Minneapolis two days ago. Weird now to imagine what that would've been like.

Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Saturday, 23 April 2016 17:24 (four months ago) Permalink

new song, up on spotify too
https://soundcloud.com/fadetomind/dawn-richard-honest

ulysses, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 16:18 (three months ago) Permalink

p4k really aiming for Pseud's Corner this week with their Best New Track review. Not wrong though.

Jeff W, Friday, 29 April 2016 18:26 (three months ago) Permalink

EP is out
https://soundcloud.com/fadetomind/sets/dawn-richard-infrared-ep/s-YB2m5

ulysses, Friday, 6 May 2016 16:36 (three months ago) Permalink

This is beautiful...so smooth and introspective and much more pared-back than Blackheart. That said, I've come away feeling massively depressed. There's a lot of hopelessness in these lyrics and no soaring, triumphant tracks to take the edge off (a la Phoenix, Warriors etc). I'm fine with bleak, but this is crushingly so. Even 'How I Get It', which is ostensibly empowering in and of itself (and probably my favourite here), feels very sad sandwiched between these two songs about relationship futility. What I'm saying sounds like nonsense...obviously art shouldn't only be coming from a good place, and it's probably just the mood I am in right now, but there's an undercurrent here that I find utterly stultifying.

propaganda for the American springtime (tangenttangent), Monday, 9 May 2016 11:55 (three months ago) Permalink

The EP really clicked on the third time through for me. I don't hear it as hopeless, really -- it ends with baptism. I think it's pretty clearly a set-up for the album. But it's a nice little mood piece on its own.

A nationally known air show announcer/personality (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 10 May 2016 02:02 (three months ago) Permalink

Wake up, ILM

Jeff W, Friday, 13 May 2016 18:55 (three months ago) Permalink

love "not above that" a ton but it took a while to get to that point; "wake up" sounds like it could follow the same path. not into the ep at all, airless and dry like everything kingdom's done for years now, but i guess i'm fine with a minor whiteout-style thing to hold us over to the actual album

cher guevara (lex pretend), Friday, 13 May 2016 18:58 (three months ago) Permalink

who's seeing dawn at berghain http://berghain.de/event/1629

just sayin, Friday, 27 May 2016 07:33 (two months ago) Permalink

I am. very much looking forward to it.

fffv, Friday, 27 May 2016 14:52 (two months ago) Permalink

berghain huh!

cher guevara (lex pretend), Friday, 27 May 2016 14:53 (two months ago) Permalink

it's in Kantine am Berghain not Berghain proper. small building adjacent to Berghain is more accurate, but it's a decent enough place to see a show.

fffv, Friday, 27 May 2016 16:14 (two months ago) Permalink

That FACT AOTY could be the worst thing to happen to Dawn if she starts deliberately pandering to that audience. WAY too soon to give up and go full #cassiefanclub on us.

Matt DC, Friday, 27 May 2016 16:37 (two months ago) Permalink

if one was actually going to be concerned that SHE KNOWS NERDS ARE LISTENING OH NO surely that time would have come well before Blackheart

some dude, Friday, 27 May 2016 16:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Depends on the kind of nerd.

Matt DC, Friday, 27 May 2016 16:57 (two months ago) Permalink

d triangle wn is already pandering full-bore but the music's still pretty good

cher guevara (lex pretend), Friday, 27 May 2016 17:00 (two months ago) Permalink

'pandering' is a strong word but yeah. if she was just making Keri Hilson songs to begin with we wouldn't have gotten here, but i'm just generally weary of 'the wrong kind of success will spoil their once pure artistic expression' meta anxiety.

some dude, Friday, 27 May 2016 17:08 (two months ago) Permalink

'Success' is a pretty strong word in this context but collaborating with Night Slugs landfill is going to lead to some pretty boring music.

Matt DC, Friday, 27 May 2016 17:28 (two months ago) Permalink

oh we nearly on my page yet.

r|t|c, Friday, 27 May 2016 17:40 (two months ago) Permalink

http://www.adultswim.com/music/singles-2016/

albvivertine, Thursday, 9 June 2016 04:01 (two months ago) Permalink

That's pretty excellent, in a spacey way. I think I like her sonics as much as her songwriting.

A nationally known air show announcer/personality (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 9 June 2016 04:29 (two months ago) Permalink

Definitely, her visuals too. Just a great aesthetic all around.

albvivertine, Thursday, 9 June 2016 04:34 (two months ago) Permalink

did anyone see her in london? i'm going to see her tonight in lisbon and i can't really believe that this will happen.

Nourry, Thursday, 16 June 2016 13:42 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah she was really amazing, even better than last time. exultant energy start to finish, a really surprising setlist inc "meteors" and "james dean". still in awe of her pulling off "calypso" live. (she only did "calypso", "blow" and "titans" off blackheart!)

the hallouminati (lex pretend), Thursday, 16 June 2016 13:51 (two months ago) Permalink

she's releasing so much stuff these days it's hard to keep up but i'm really into "lemonade lakes"

https://soundcloud.com/oshi/lemonade-lakes-2

the hallouminati (lex pretend), Thursday, 16 June 2016 13:52 (two months ago) Permalink

i don't think i can get the virtual reality video for "not above that" to work properly though

the hallouminati (lex pretend), Thursday, 16 June 2016 13:52 (two months ago) Permalink

i guess she plays a lot of new stuff.
i would really love to see her play 'black lipstick'...

Nourry, Thursday, 16 June 2016 14:02 (two months ago) Permalink

oh yeah extended version of "dance" that stretched the outro out to the proper drumming frenzy it should've been on record

the hallouminati (lex pretend), Thursday, 16 June 2016 14:05 (two months ago) Permalink

saw a small clip of the virtual reality video on Dawn's Instagram. Nice

curmudgeon, Thursday, 16 June 2016 14:19 (two months ago) Permalink

"Black Lipstick" is still probably my favorite song of hers

Get Me Bodied (Extended Mix), Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:33 (two months ago) Permalink

She was so amazing. And such a sweet and generous person. Really awesome.

Nourry, Friday, 17 June 2016 19:49 (two months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

http://www.vevo.com/watch/USQX91601303

On streaming services, the song is longer than here.

Jeff W, Friday, 19 August 2016 13:53 (six days ago) Permalink


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