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actually...the whole run from intro (the fall) to the end is :O

mumflop & sons (dayo), Monday, 21 February 2011 13:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

^^^^

Tim F, Monday, 21 February 2011 13:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

finally sitting down with A Tell Tale Heart and damn yeah, this is great. very considerate of the Diddy-Dirty Money folks to already start turning Last Train To Paris into its own little genre with the release of this and the Valentine's Day mixtape just a couple months later.

funny that I was the first person to mention this record's existence on ILM but like the 30th to actually hear it.

some dude, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

finally hearing her voice in isolation for extended periods of time is nice, too; the slightly raspy grain is a bit like Brandy but not too much.

some dude, Monday, 21 February 2011 20:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

talking of the LTTP mini-genre, did everyone hear the lektro black mixtape diddy did with felix da housecat that was meant to precede it (well, it did precede it, just by a year rather than a few months)? one of the most banging hours of music i've ever heard. http://rcrdlbl.com/2009/08/14/exclusive_new_download_felix_da_housecat_x_diddy_lectro_black_last_train_to_paris_mixtape

lex pretend, Monday, 21 February 2011 20:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

digging the version of "I Know" on here, too, you could slot this right in place of the album version on LTTP and get closer to an ideal Chris Brown-less version of the album.

some dude, Monday, 21 February 2011 20:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

finally hearing her voice in isolation for extended periods of time is nice, too; the slightly raspy grain is a bit like Brandy but not too much.

Brandy is a useful comparison point actually, in some ways this is like Full Moon if it was an album of straight bangers.

Tim F, Monday, 21 February 2011 21:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah i love this mixtape. Have to listen more but i think "vibrate" is my favorite

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

i wonder what it is about dawn that made diddy keep her around after the dissolution of dannity kane

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

Wasn't she the best singer out of everyone in Danity Kane? I mean there is nothing about her that screams "super star" but I think the pop/r&b audience are so use to big personalities that a straight forward singer may seem boring. Dawn isn't boring per se but maybe Diddy needed a "real" singer around Bad Boy since Cassie was the only female for a little spell after Danity Kane split up.

Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

i really know nothing about danity kane or any of its members, but being the best singer makes sense

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

I never listen to a note of Danity Kane as I don't like the idea of 5 person singing group. I saw a video of her performing with Diddy doing "Last Night" waaayy back and assumed she was better than the other four.

Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

Danity Kane, anyone?

prescience from brainwasher!

well at least we'll be getting a Dawn solo album I guess.

― Put A Ring On It (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, October 15, 2008 2:39 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 00:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

i'd love to hear a version of a tell tale heart where several of the songs didn't sound like they were recorded underwater

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 04:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

does 'blackout'-era britney have much crossover w/ this stuff? i'm listening to "radar" (love love love) right now and i could see the drama being pitched up slightly in a way that would totally fit w/ the 'LTTP sound'

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 06:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

"vibrate" is nuts

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 07:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

i'd love to hear a version of a tell tale heart where several of the songs didn't sound like they were recorded underwater

YES (i mean, i assume this will be the actual album if and when it emerges)

blackout's a good comparison point, i mentioned it in my LTTP review from the "constant surprising sonic thrillz" standpoint, but re: dawn specifically there's also that impulse to get drunk and curse and act out sexually running through it (though obv she's coming at it from a more controlled persona...)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 08:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah she's interesting in that she's a controlled singer doing "unhinged" R&B - there are aspects of this album that remind me of K Michelle and Fantasia and J Hudson and Brooke Valentine in parts but it's mostly sonic rather than vocal.

This works for me though I'll have to think about why, can't come up with a neat explanation for it yet.

Tim F, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

i'm still unbelievably pissed off that my chat w/dawn and kalenna has been lost to the vagaries of hard drive death - they said some really interesting things, esp re: their differing singing/songwriting styles, and both generally came across as totally smart and totally on it, and a bit like...necessary to keep diddy down to earth?

tim, you heard the last danity kane album right? if not, omg you need it. (i probably need their first one! never heard it)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

I think I heard and liked the singles? I can't remember now if I checked out the album or not.

In my head I kind of just slot Danity Kane as halfway between Dream and Pussycat Dolls and keep forgetting that this is based purely on pop-cultural arithmetic rather than what they actually sound like.

Tim F, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

it's not entirely offbase w/r/t what they sound like either

that was probably one of my favourites off the album, which made a really great companion piece at the time to...blackout, as it happens - danja helmed a good chunk of it and most of the beats were rather great.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

"bulletproof" is so immense, steel pistons grinding into motion

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 12:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

Love "Superhero"

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 20:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/dawnangelique

Wrong-Way Willy (Andy K), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

any good?

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

booty in da pants

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

does 'blackout'-era britney have much crossover w/ this stuff? i'm listening to "radar" (love love love) right now and i could see the drama being pitched up slightly in a way that would totally fit w/ the 'LTTP sound'

― pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:42 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

um aside from multiple beats by Danja on both albums i don't really see any connection beyond urban-leaning pop and pop-leaning rap/R&B kinda meeting each other halfway. also lol @ blackout-era britney like that's some kind of defining touchstone of anything outside the ilx hivemind.

some dude, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

it's a defining touchstone of the pop genre, i think - almost certainly the most critically acclaimed of her albums

lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

the popjustice crowd (and most top 40/pop fans I've talked to) generally consider it to be the best pop album of at least the second half of the decade, if that means anything

prolego, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah i was exaggerating about it being a big deal only on ilm but calling it her most critically acclaimed album is i think pretty off -- on metacritic it's 3% lower than Circus, 5% lower than In The Zone, 11% lower than Oops -- it's only put on a pedestal in a very particular internet bubble.

some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 01:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

Eh, Metacritic only analyzes initial reviews, not an album's long-term legacy.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 01:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah obviously there's a lot of nuance that it doesn't accurately measure -- i'm just saying there's this kind of assumption that it's universally regarded as the high point of her career that i don't think really holds water

some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 01:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

Realistically though Dawn Richard is highly unlikely to attain any success outside of that internet bubble (or an overlapping one) so it's not so misfounded or misleading a point of comparison.

If I say "maybe Dawn Richard's album is gonna be the 2011 equiv of Chain Letter" it's no more ridic, really.

Tim F, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah who knows if DR has any commercial potential (although LTTP might have legs enough to set her up well, who knows), but Blackout being singled out as a comparison point over all the other dancey Danja-produced R&B/pop albums of the last few years seemed kinda arbitrary.

some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

what other notable danja-produced R&B/pop albums are out there? (honest q)

Neu! romancer (dayo), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

i wanna know if the first 20 seconds to "let love in" are supposed to be part of the song or if it's part of another one - sounds absolutely heavenly

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

Really enjoying this but the shitty mixtape sound quality is really harshing my buzz. Why do these songs not sound louder?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 12:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

'Sounds louder' is usually a bad thing imo.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

i think he means the levels are quiet in an unmastered way that makes the whole thing sound less full/alive, which is a totally valid gripe and not at all an aesthetic thing.

"Hey" has not been singled out itt as a standout and that needs to be rectified.

dayo technology (some dude), Friday, 1 April 2011 20:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

what other notable danja-produced R&B/pop albums are out there? (honest q)

― Neu! romancer (dayo), Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:42 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

if we're talking stuff from when Danja was Timbaland's right hand man (and those should probably count since Danja had a huge influence on the sound of those records), Timberlake's FutureSex and Furtado's Loose. but i was referring to stuff heavy on Danja solo productions like Diddy's LTTP and Press Play, Keri Hilson's 1st album, Danity Kane's 2nd album, Katharine McPhee's 1st album.

dayo technology (some dude), Friday, 1 April 2011 21:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

"hey" is amazing yes

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

ship otm

"runway" & "vibrate" are also the joints off this

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

i like how the art for this album could double as a los campesinos cover

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

kmt

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

:D

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

i feel like an asshole for loving "vibrate" the most cuz it sounds like the one that terius & los would've done

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

do we actually have the production credits for this? i couldn't find them the other week. "vibrate" def in the "promise"/"devotion" lineage

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

if anything i feel bad for loving the swagged-out ones so much. I'M ON MY SUPERMAN SHIT, WHIPPIN UP TOWN, BLOWIN UP SHIIEEET

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

that's why "runway" is the best -- bragging about her hair being real

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

NO HORSES UP HERE

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

this video RULES

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 16:20 (2 months ago) Permalink

i almost missed this because of wacky name change but she's playing PS1's Warm Up series in August with Matias Aguayo and Murlo
http://www.eventbrite.com/e/warm-up-matias-aguayo-kingdom-dwn-murlo-false-witness-tickets-17086988643

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 16:38 (2 months ago) Permalink

James Dean is pretty good!

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 17:04 (2 months ago) Permalink

i'm glad the "titan" video goes back to her dance roots, but at the same time, i'm sad we came /this close/ to a "warriors" vid and didn't get it. "james dean" is good tho

j. winters (josh), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 22:06 (2 months ago) Permalink

"james dean" is amazing

lex pretend, Thursday, 28 May 2015 00:10 (2 months ago) Permalink

so what does one wear to a Dawn Richard gig?

Jeff W, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 16:05 (1 month ago) Permalink

You dress well.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 16:46 (1 month ago) Permalink

mirrored surfaces imo

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 16:52 (1 month ago) Permalink

deconstruct yourself into a dodecahedron sliced into a thousand equivalent pieces

, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 17:08 (1 month ago) Permalink

^^ also sound life advice

DJP, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 17:35 (1 month ago) Permalink

nice.

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 05:21 (1 month ago) Permalink

Not included in Lex's rapturous rundown, her version of 'Champagne Supernova'.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 08:45 (1 month ago) Permalink

punching myself in the face as i type but tbh that is quite an apt cover actually, turned inward to interrogate self-reinvention/abnegation

wake up the dawn and ask her why, a dreamer dreams she never dies #neverthesubtlest

r|t|c, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 09:11 (1 month ago) Permalink

new song coming in three days courtesy of the Adult Swim Singles series

misterjoshua, Friday, 5 June 2015 17:59 (1 month ago) Permalink

And here it is

https://twitter.com/DawnRichard/status/607931331557752832

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 June 2015 15:33 (1 month ago) Permalink

After announcing this season's lineup for their acclaimed Singles program, Adult Swim is back today to share a new track from D∆WN (formerly Dawn Richard) today to kick off this year's program. "Running From Sane" finds the former Danity Kane/Dirty Money member at her most experimental - featuring a near 2-minute instrumental passage before she takes command of the track with her signature vocals.

Over/under on how long until she abandons the D∆WN moniker and goes back to Dawn Richard?

Evan R, Monday, 8 June 2015 16:22 (1 month ago) Permalink

after D∆NITY KAN3 runs its course

fetty wap, kombucha, where to trap queen (some dude), Monday, 8 June 2015 16:24 (1 month ago) Permalink

I just received the 5.4-inch floppy drive with the symbols!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 June 2015 16:28 (1 month ago) Permalink

i dunno about this adult swim track exactly

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2015 16:36 (1 month ago) Permalink

it's kind of whatever

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 8 June 2015 16:43 (1 month ago) Permalink

Like everything she's done since Armor On, it's nice but underwhelming.

Her career bums me out. She's so talented, but also seems to have no direction. She just tosses music and projects out there, hoping something will stick, w/o ever throwing her full weight behind a single project.

Evan R, Monday, 8 June 2015 16:45 (1 month ago) Permalink

Like everything she's done since Armor On, it's nice but underwhelming.

:|

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 8 June 2015 16:48 (1 month ago) Permalink

Blackheart is fully realized and her best album to date.

This track is closer to the overtones of Goldenheart

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 June 2015 16:48 (1 month ago) Permalink

http://www.lovebscott.com/news/dawn-talks-new-music-new-projects-owning-her-new-look-show

“I’m super excited because Ester Dean has the first single. I had an opportunity to really stretch my wings out and I’m gonna bring it back home to what I’ve done mainstream-wise and what I’ve done commercially as a writer and really work with Ester Dean to get a big smash. She’s got me with this monster [hit], so we’re gonna release that. Look for our Summer release of that.

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 11 June 2015 06:02 (1 month ago) Permalink

She just tosses music and projects out there

I wholly disagree, I think she and her producers are exploring the shared space between art-pop and R&B, and it's mostly unexplored territory and there's a lot of ground to cover, a lot of possibilities.

got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Thursday, 11 June 2015 13:28 (1 month ago) Permalink

I smh at people who prefer Blackheart to Goldenheart, but maintain that it's a mix- or master- issue. Goldenheart is perfect songs throughout, but is mixed and mastered like a Bon Iver record, all space and no pressure. Blackheart is all pressure and bop but has such a weak front-half that I'm amazed that people even compare the two.

got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Thursday, 11 June 2015 13:30 (1 month ago) Permalink

Also I may have already said this but stop if you don't want the song changed forever once you notice Dawn dropping her consonants on "The Deep" you're always gonna hear it as "I took it to the D" which is a fun line to get in your head at some points in your day

got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Thursday, 11 June 2015 13:32 (1 month ago) Permalink

Blackheart is fully realized and her best album to date.

This track is closer to the overtones of Goldenheart

eh nah it's like an underwritten blackheart track

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:39 (1 month ago) Permalink

anyway fgti otm even though i do prefer blackheart, and the front half has fucking adderall/sold

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:40 (1 month ago) Permalink

The front half of Blackheart is maybe the best music she's ever made on her own.

The Reverend, Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:08 (1 month ago) Permalink

I know that the main reason I like "Calypso" so much is because of the rampant Twin Peaks sampling but still, I really really REALLY like it.

DJP, Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:09 (1 month ago) Permalink

we're almost halfway in and it's still in my top four albums of the year

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:10 (1 month ago) Permalink

it's highly possible that blackheart will end up being my favorite album of the year

j. winters (josh), Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:42 (1 month ago) Permalink

Goldenheart is perfect songs throughout, but is mixed and mastered like a Bon Iver record, all space and no pressure. Blackheart is all pressure and bop but has such a weak front-half that I'm amazed that people even compare the two.

None or this is true at all! In what way does Pretty Wicked Things have more space than Swim Free? The main problem with Goldenheart is sequencing, its pace is just wearying.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:48 (1 month ago) Permalink

One of the reasons I dislike Blow is that it feels about a third slower than it should be, it hits that laboured trudging pace that Dawn employs for so much of Goldenheart.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:51 (1 month ago) Permalink

I know that the main reason I like "Calypso" so much is because of the rampant Twin Peaks sampling but still, I really really REALLY like it.

― DJP, Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

for me it's the glitchy robotic vocoder parts

, Thursday, 11 June 2015 21:22 (1 month ago) Permalink

always think of this

, Thursday, 11 June 2015 21:23 (1 month ago) Permalink

Not that the album form needed saving for me but "Blackheart" is the strongest statement on its behalf I've heard in a few years.

geoffreyess, Friday, 12 June 2015 00:36 (1 month ago) Permalink

Dawn performing in a Targé Ménage live session for BBC 1extra last night with Bonkaz:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02v409j

Video clips on her Twitter feed as well.

Jeff W, Saturday, 20 June 2015 10:23 (1 month ago) Permalink

THE RED ERA IS COMING https://twitter.com/DawnRichard/status/615723722901602305

j. winters (josh), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 03:43 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

yow

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 03:44 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 July 2015 14:33 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

^namedropping biff naked, missy and the cranberries there

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 July 2015 14:38 (3 weeks ago) Permalink


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