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actually...the whole run from intro (the fall) to the end is :O

mumflop & sons (dayo), Monday, 21 February 2011 13:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

^^^^

Tim F, Monday, 21 February 2011 13:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

finally sitting down with A Tell Tale Heart and damn yeah, this is great. very considerate of the Diddy-Dirty Money folks to already start turning Last Train To Paris into its own little genre with the release of this and the Valentine's Day mixtape just a couple months later.

funny that I was the first person to mention this record's existence on ILM but like the 30th to actually hear it.

some dude, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

finally hearing her voice in isolation for extended periods of time is nice, too; the slightly raspy grain is a bit like Brandy but not too much.

some dude, Monday, 21 February 2011 20:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

talking of the LTTP mini-genre, did everyone hear the lektro black mixtape diddy did with felix da housecat that was meant to precede it (well, it did precede it, just by a year rather than a few months)? one of the most banging hours of music i've ever heard. http://rcrdlbl.com/2009/08/14/exclusive_new_download_felix_da_housecat_x_diddy_lectro_black_last_train_to_paris_mixtape

lex pretend, Monday, 21 February 2011 20:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

digging the version of "I Know" on here, too, you could slot this right in place of the album version on LTTP and get closer to an ideal Chris Brown-less version of the album.

some dude, Monday, 21 February 2011 20:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

finally hearing her voice in isolation for extended periods of time is nice, too; the slightly raspy grain is a bit like Brandy but not too much.

Brandy is a useful comparison point actually, in some ways this is like Full Moon if it was an album of straight bangers.

Tim F, Monday, 21 February 2011 21:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah i love this mixtape. Have to listen more but i think "vibrate" is my favorite

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

i wonder what it is about dawn that made diddy keep her around after the dissolution of dannity kane

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

Wasn't she the best singer out of everyone in Danity Kane? I mean there is nothing about her that screams "super star" but I think the pop/r&b audience are so use to big personalities that a straight forward singer may seem boring. Dawn isn't boring per se but maybe Diddy needed a "real" singer around Bad Boy since Cassie was the only female for a little spell after Danity Kane split up.

Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

i really know nothing about danity kane or any of its members, but being the best singer makes sense

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

I never listen to a note of Danity Kane as I don't like the idea of 5 person singing group. I saw a video of her performing with Diddy doing "Last Night" waaayy back and assumed she was better than the other four.

Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

Danity Kane, anyone?

prescience from brainwasher!

well at least we'll be getting a Dawn solo album I guess.

― Put A Ring On It (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, October 15, 2008 2:39 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 00:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

i'd love to hear a version of a tell tale heart where several of the songs didn't sound like they were recorded underwater

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 04:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

does 'blackout'-era britney have much crossover w/ this stuff? i'm listening to "radar" (love love love) right now and i could see the drama being pitched up slightly in a way that would totally fit w/ the 'LTTP sound'

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 06:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

"vibrate" is nuts

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 07:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

i'd love to hear a version of a tell tale heart where several of the songs didn't sound like they were recorded underwater

YES (i mean, i assume this will be the actual album if and when it emerges)

blackout's a good comparison point, i mentioned it in my LTTP review from the "constant surprising sonic thrillz" standpoint, but re: dawn specifically there's also that impulse to get drunk and curse and act out sexually running through it (though obv she's coming at it from a more controlled persona...)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 08:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah she's interesting in that she's a controlled singer doing "unhinged" R&B - there are aspects of this album that remind me of K Michelle and Fantasia and J Hudson and Brooke Valentine in parts but it's mostly sonic rather than vocal.

This works for me though I'll have to think about why, can't come up with a neat explanation for it yet.

Tim F, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

i'm still unbelievably pissed off that my chat w/dawn and kalenna has been lost to the vagaries of hard drive death - they said some really interesting things, esp re: their differing singing/songwriting styles, and both generally came across as totally smart and totally on it, and a bit like...necessary to keep diddy down to earth?

tim, you heard the last danity kane album right? if not, omg you need it. (i probably need their first one! never heard it)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think I heard and liked the singles? I can't remember now if I checked out the album or not.

In my head I kind of just slot Danity Kane as halfway between Dream and Pussycat Dolls and keep forgetting that this is based purely on pop-cultural arithmetic rather than what they actually sound like.

Tim F, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

it's not entirely offbase w/r/t what they sound like either

that was probably one of my favourites off the album, which made a really great companion piece at the time to...blackout, as it happens - danja helmed a good chunk of it and most of the beats were rather great.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

"bulletproof" is so immense, steel pistons grinding into motion

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 12:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

Love "Superhero"

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 20:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/dawnangelique

Wrong-Way Willy (Andy K), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

any good?

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

booty in da pants

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

does 'blackout'-era britney have much crossover w/ this stuff? i'm listening to "radar" (love love love) right now and i could see the drama being pitched up slightly in a way that would totally fit w/ the 'LTTP sound'

― pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:42 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

um aside from multiple beats by Danja on both albums i don't really see any connection beyond urban-leaning pop and pop-leaning rap/R&B kinda meeting each other halfway. also lol @ blackout-era britney like that's some kind of defining touchstone of anything outside the ilx hivemind.

some dude, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

it's a defining touchstone of the pop genre, i think - almost certainly the most critically acclaimed of her albums

lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

the popjustice crowd (and most top 40/pop fans I've talked to) generally consider it to be the best pop album of at least the second half of the decade, if that means anything

prolego, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah i was exaggerating about it being a big deal only on ilm but calling it her most critically acclaimed album is i think pretty off -- on metacritic it's 3% lower than Circus, 5% lower than In The Zone, 11% lower than Oops -- it's only put on a pedestal in a very particular internet bubble.

some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 01:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

Eh, Metacritic only analyzes initial reviews, not an album's long-term legacy.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 01:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah obviously there's a lot of nuance that it doesn't accurately measure -- i'm just saying there's this kind of assumption that it's universally regarded as the high point of her career that i don't think really holds water

some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 01:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

Realistically though Dawn Richard is highly unlikely to attain any success outside of that internet bubble (or an overlapping one) so it's not so misfounded or misleading a point of comparison.

If I say "maybe Dawn Richard's album is gonna be the 2011 equiv of Chain Letter" it's no more ridic, really.

Tim F, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah who knows if DR has any commercial potential (although LTTP might have legs enough to set her up well, who knows), but Blackout being singled out as a comparison point over all the other dancey Danja-produced R&B/pop albums of the last few years seemed kinda arbitrary.

some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

what other notable danja-produced R&B/pop albums are out there? (honest q)

Neu! romancer (dayo), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

i wanna know if the first 20 seconds to "let love in" are supposed to be part of the song or if it's part of another one - sounds absolutely heavenly

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

Really enjoying this but the shitty mixtape sound quality is really harshing my buzz. Why do these songs not sound louder?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 12:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

'Sounds louder' is usually a bad thing imo.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

i think he means the levels are quiet in an unmastered way that makes the whole thing sound less full/alive, which is a totally valid gripe and not at all an aesthetic thing.

"Hey" has not been singled out itt as a standout and that needs to be rectified.

dayo technology (some dude), Friday, 1 April 2011 20:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

what other notable danja-produced R&B/pop albums are out there? (honest q)

― Neu! romancer (dayo), Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:42 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

if we're talking stuff from when Danja was Timbaland's right hand man (and those should probably count since Danja had a huge influence on the sound of those records), Timberlake's FutureSex and Furtado's Loose. but i was referring to stuff heavy on Danja solo productions like Diddy's LTTP and Press Play, Keri Hilson's 1st album, Danity Kane's 2nd album, Katharine McPhee's 1st album.

dayo technology (some dude), Friday, 1 April 2011 21:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

"hey" is amazing yes

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

ship otm

"runway" & "vibrate" are also the joints off this

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

i like how the art for this album could double as a los campesinos cover

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

kmt

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

:D

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

i feel like an asshole for loving "vibrate" the most cuz it sounds like the one that terius & los would've done

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

do we actually have the production credits for this? i couldn't find them the other week. "vibrate" def in the "promise"/"devotion" lineage

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

if anything i feel bad for loving the swagged-out ones so much. I'M ON MY SUPERMAN SHIT, WHIPPIN UP TOWN, BLOWIN UP SHIIEEET

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

that's why "runway" is the best -- bragging about her hair being real

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

NO HORSES UP HERE

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

two new singles on itunes this week.

"judith"

"valkyrie"

i like both but i do hope she hasn't totally moved beyond writing hooks

lex pretend, Monday, 19 August 2013 08:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

also do we know anything substantial about this mdma production outfit? they seem to be a...production crew signed to...polow da don's zone4 label?!

lex pretend, Monday, 19 August 2013 08:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Valkyrie" is dope but ugh guest rapper get thee gone

some dude, Monday, 19 August 2013 11:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

Those are both really good. Wish Goldenheart had included some of these newer tracks; it could have used the variety

Evan R, Monday, 19 August 2013 13:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Judith" is incredible, I am really digging the dialing down of the intentional autotune overdrive to allow the real colors of her voice through

OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Monday, 19 August 2013 19:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

the polish is impressive (and a change was probably undeniably necessary) but idk i'm still yet to quite be convinced by these new ones - kinda feel like well-meaning but slightly off novel/tv adaptations of a beloved messy pulp comic book

r|t|c, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Judith" is gorgeous

s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Monday, 19 August 2013 22:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

they're both impressive in their own ways but i can understand people's reservations. i remain optimistic.

dyl, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 03:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

these songs don't pop like the non-album tracks that came out earlier this year, but that just makes me feel like i'll need to hear it all in album context to appreciate it. still a little annoyed that some really good songs will probably remain forever uncollected, though.

some dude, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 09:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah going back to cuts like "empty room" and "love on the rocks" and "movie" it's apparent that the lack of immediacy with these is totally deliberate rather than she's forgotten how to write a hook (although i have my suspicions that she might have dredged "empty room" in particular up from the danity kane era - it's that sort of song)

apparently "judith" was inspired by the klimt painting!!!

Dawn teams with producer Cronos on “Judith,” which was inspired by the Gustav Klimt painting “Judith.” “It’s the story of a painting that is priceless and quite iconic being forgotten after being hung in a home too long,” she said.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 09:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

like...does she actually sing from the perspective of the painting? because that is amazing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_and_the_Head_of_Holofernes

lex pretend, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 09:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

on the one hand, "judith" and "valkyrie" have been really growing on me - in partic the remix of the latter with jojo, who absolutely kills her verse.

on the other hand, looks like this danity kane reunion has thrown a spanner in the works - http://dopeavenue.com/exclusive-dawn-richard-talks-blackheart-album-danity-kane-reunion/

So Blackheart was scheduled to come out in October, but when the Danity Kane announcement came about, many fans were left speculating about what that meant for Blackheart. Can you clarify for the Hearts what the plan of action is going to be?

Dawn: Blackheart will come after DK project. I owe it to the hearts to give a proper release. I don’t want to confuse the DK fans and hearts. It was a hard decision to make but I think it’s a smart one. Blackheart is too great to rush and not tour on. I’d have to put it out and wait to tour and the hearts know how much I love touring. But 3 projects in a year is alot to hold them over and there is still a DK single coming this year so plenty to look forward to still. Just getting started.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 08:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

idk how i feel about the DK reunion at all tbh - i loved them but i don't get any sense of unfinished business there at all (like i do with MKS). and it goes completely against the dawn richard solo brand - but then it's really not like that was getting massive amounts of traction, and weirdly i see more people hyped about DK (though it's not like DK happened at all over here, so maybe i'm underestimating how much people cared about them to start with?)

lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 08:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah Danity Kane's music feels very tied to that 2006-2008 period they existed in, in a way they seem like the last gasp of the R&B-as-pop era the Ariana Grande album harkens back to, it's a little hard to imagine what they consider 'their' sound that they want to return with (although apparently the single was produced by the same guys who did "Damaged" so maybe they're just trying to pick up exactly where they left off).

some dude, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 10:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

new song from dawn : http://www.rap-up.com/2013/11/04/new-music-dawn-richard-fade/

rusty_allen, Monday, 4 November 2013 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

New Dawn Fades

Euler, Monday, 4 November 2013 17:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

production here is some shitty, knock-off Kid A shit. Absolute torture on headphones.

Evan R, Monday, 4 November 2013 17:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah Noisecastle III really let himself down here

r|t|c, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

is blackheart not happening or just paused until danity kane's album happens? seems like they're taking much longer than dawn normally would.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 14:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

If someone has to make a 'Cincinatti Fever' bootleg out of Dawn one-off soundcloud tracks can we please call it 'False Dawn'?

Tim F, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 20:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

no it has to be called cincinatti fever

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 November 2013 20:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Teflon Dawn

some dude, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 20:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

production here is some shitty, knock-off Kid A shit. Absolute torture on headphones.

― Evan R, Monday, November 4, 2013 12:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

well it kind of sounds like if goldenheart had been mastered like a tell tale heart

乒乓, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 22:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

i liked that track

some dude, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 22:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah that track hardly seems the jumping off point if you wanna get off the dawn treader... let's wait until the drake collabo

乒乓, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 22:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

if you wanna get off the dawn treader...

excellent work

Tim F, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 05:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm impressed that dawned on him

old homophobic boom bap rap traditionalist (The Reverend), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 06:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...
4 weeks pass...

better late than never?

lex pretend, Thursday, 2 January 2014 11:20 (10 months ago) Permalink

hope + pray for an extended version of 'heaven' somewhere down the line for the full quentin harris experience

― r|t|c, Thursday, 29 March 2012 01:36 Bookmark

fiat (p meh tbh) lux: http://soundcloud.com/quentin_harris/dawn-richards-heaven-knows

r|t|c, Thursday, 2 January 2014 11:43 (10 months ago) Permalink

https://soundcloud.com/dawn_richard/levitate

prolego, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 15:01 (10 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

this album hitting me like a bulldozer atm.

Spottie, Friday, 14 February 2014 22:48 (9 months ago) Permalink

Armor On is such an interesting album, but I prefer LTTP. The production on both of these is so overwhelming. *cries*
I need to give Goldenheart more spins.

jay., Friday, 14 February 2014 22:58 (9 months ago) Permalink

goldenheart production >>>

Spottie, Friday, 14 February 2014 23:06 (9 months ago) Permalink

This is so good

https://soundcloud.com/dawn_richard/dawn-richard-dark-horse

Evan R, Thursday, 27 February 2014 16:38 (9 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

well, "lemonade" is a banger, in an obvious kind of way

http://www.rap-up.com/2014/05/14/new-music-danity-kane-f-tyga-lemonade/

lex pretend, Thursday, 15 May 2014 10:12 (6 months ago) Permalink

i mean, it's worth it if this reformation actually smashes, but it doesn't seem like dawn's going to bring her own ideas to it as such

lex pretend, Thursday, 15 May 2014 10:15 (6 months ago) Permalink

this is great
in an obvious way indeed

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 May 2014 03:25 (6 months ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

and now dk3 is out of the way

prolego, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 13:50 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

budget biophilia, hmm

blackheart is out on 15 jan

lex pretend, Saturday, 1 November 2014 15:55 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

But the singer's affinity for fantasy doesn't stem from a book series or its corresponding HBO show. When Richard was a kid, she dissected the artwork of Austrian painter Gustav Klimt, studying his use of gold flakes in the 1901 work "Judith and the Head of Holofernes," based on the Biblical character of Judith. Richard was fascinated by the longing in Judith's gaze, existing underneath her beauty and the regal symbols encapsulating her face.

I Love Makonnen: New Answers (The Reverend), Sunday, 2 November 2014 22:06 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

I Love Makonnen: New Answers (The Reverend), Sunday, 2 November 2014 22:07 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

that makes TONS of sense really

Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Monday, 3 November 2014 00:33 (3 weeks ago) Permalink


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