2008 Primaries Thread

more adverts- what could we substitute for gunboats or wolves this time? an obama lookalike in a towel with a scimitar? sounds like a bruckheimer shoe in

i can see bloomberg pulling support away from romney's mainstream business base in the republican party, possibly stealing away from Hillary's older, centrist base.

bloomy just wants to raise his profile so he can get a cabinet spot or run for congress or some such shit

could backfire tho - i cant see him having any appeal nationally

Bloomie doesn't strike me as a collaborator. or as much of anything but a CEO.

I can't fathom why anyone outside of NY gives a fuck about Bloomberg, or is even remotely aware of him... I don't think the electorate can take THREE NYers running for Prez. how obnoxious would that be.

it depends on who gets nominated: he could do damage either party in a Huckabee-Clinton matchup

woman vs. jew vs. black vs. mormon FITE

I better not see Kerry hovering over Obama at campaign events like he's Chuck Norris or someone.

vaht a cahntry

i have a hard time believing that that attacks against obama are going to be any worse than the attacks against hillary.

xposts to the karl rove comments about obama - didn't rove express some serious glee back in 2007 that hillary was emerging as the main candidate? i wouldn't be surprised at all if he was making those comments about obama because he'd much rather see hillary be the nom.

prophet-worshiper vs. profit-worshiper

is ross perot still alive?

if he can do what he did why couldn't bloomberg? cuz as a ny jew he can't appeal to the same crowd?

77 years and still tickin'

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can a presidential candidate OWN a tv station?

b/c Bloomberg doesn't have the qualities of a fiery outsider. He's more of a "grower", as a friend put it.

grower, not a show-er, eh?

that would be a provocative campaign slogan

We need more plutocrats in this race. ROMNEY-BLOOMBERG FITE.

i don't think bloomberg's penis has the charisma to run a successful presidential campaign

Look, said the stories, rich men can do more than make fools of themselves on TV game shows: They can speak seriously about the environment, about guns that shouldn't be sold, and about schools that don't teach. His solutions for these ailments are only modest and of the most pedestrian variety. But he has been elected mayor of New York twice and he is hugely wealthy, so he must be taken very seriously.

I think this is a little unfair. Bloomberg has been an excellent administrator, and some of his proposed initiatives, like congestion-pricing, have been a bit more than pedestrian. I don't see why his being rich should take away from the credit due to him.

i suppose if you dont like plutocrats you ought to want an extra one in the race, no?

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westside stadium transfat initiative

if bloomberg was prez then we could finally outlaw smoking in this country altogether

then i could finally start my blackmarket cigarette business

westside stadium transfat initiative

lol

aorta congestion pricing

Bloomberg can also lock up any protesters on the Mall like he did at RNC '04 here

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barack looks appropriately concerned

kerry's still wearing a livestrong bracelet

cancer hasn't been cured yet

the congestion pricing thing totally fell apart though didn't it?

xp: I think that's a security tracking device Howard Dean clamped on him

that's a drink tag, come on

xp

ban john kerry

You can't shuck and jive at a press conference. All those moves you can make with the press don't work when you're in someone's living room.

- new york attorney general and hillary supporter andrew cuomo offering his deep analysis of obama

uh...

ughhhh

fuck i was hoping this wouldn't get totally insane with racial politics, but between donna brazile and jesse jackson jr.'s statements over the past few days + shit like that, this is gonna get bumpy

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/images/andrewcuomo-small.jpg

brazile...? what did she say?

the congestion pricing thing totally fell apart though didn't it?

yeah. as maybe it should have, it was an interesting idea but in some ways it would have functioned as manhattan imposing a tax on queens and brooklyn (anyone who knows more about it feel free to correct me on this if I'm rong)

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Brazile_on_Bill_Depressing.html

david brooks said on pbs last night obama has the educated, elitist, "bill bradley voters" AND the black vote so he still has a shot.

what did mark shields say

"jesus christ why am i sitting anywhere near you, you fucking halfwit"

he didn't agree, but his comments weren't as memorable as brooks'

oh yeah...he said the african american vote is important and in play in southern states

the phrase "i found my voice" bugged me the moment i heard it... and the more i think about Bill's politicking in NH the angrier i get: this is the 'fairytale' comment, which was a response to a question about mark penn's judgement:

Second, it is wrong that Senator Obama got to go through 15 debates trumpeting his superior judgment and how he had been against the war in every year, numerating the years, and never got asked one time, not once, ‘Well, how could you say, that when you said in 2004 you didn’t know how you would have voted on the resolution? You said in 2004 there was no difference between you and George Bush on the war and you took that speech you’re now running on off your website in 2004 and there’s no difference in your voting record and Hillary’s ever since?’ Give me a break. “This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen…So you can talk about Mark Penn all you want.