Radiohead - The King of Limbs

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what typeface are we talking about here?

http://cdn.sandbag.uk.com/RV/c/TKOLPackshot.jpg

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

oh!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

winzip is free to all intents and purposes. 7zip is really and totally free: http://www.7-zip.org/

ledge, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

if you preorder the 'newspaper' edition you'd have to wait a month longer than the people picking up the regular CD/LP. the leak is on saturday, the physical release a month later, the deluxe release a month later than that.

matt h, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, I want a physical CD without 625 choking hazards as well, which is why I am either going to wait for the physical release or buy the mp3s and pick up the album later if I like it enough

(which reminds me, I still need to pick up physical copies of Heligoland and Heartland)

xp: most modern operating systems open .zip files natively now; they are treated just like regular folders

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks ledge. Why aren't the Radiohead sending people there instead? xxp

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

xxxp: what OS are you on? windows has native support for unzipping zip files, at least since XP if not older versions

ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

and winzip is 'shareware' or whatever, it asks you to buy it but it never actually disables any features after the 30 days are up iirc

ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I got xp, so it may or may not work I guess. Hasn't worked in the past, but I'll figure it out somehow...

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link

well 7-zip should work regardless, so you're all set

ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link

and winzip is 'shareware' or whatever, it asks you to buy it but it never actually disables any features after the 30 days are up iirc

FYI as of version 10 they changed this so that after 30 days you had to buy it; I don't know if they changed it back with subsequent versions

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link

does the program actually have features that are worth $ in any sense?

iatee, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link

or are they just relying on people who get confused w/ zip files

iatee, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link

winRAR is free and can open .rar and .zip iirc

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

No, not in a world where 7zip exists (xp)

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link

not really, it was the first decent zip/unzip program for windows and has been around for ages and ages, so it's used purely on name recognition now that there are good free alternatives

ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, winRAR is the champ for all time.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link

btw can I just say lol @ all of us for the turn this conversation has taken

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

This is the stuff that Thom Yorke doesn't want you to know.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link

this is a good time to ask the question "what is the difference between zip files and rar files?"

iatee, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, winRAR is the champ for all time.

QFT; it really doesn't get better than WinRAR.

frogbs, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

this is a good time to ask the question "what is the difference between zip files and rar files?"

it's a different encoding algorithm; IIRC RAR files are supposed to be smaller on average

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

pretty sure rar compression creates smaller archive files?

xp

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

so why would anyone ever use a zip file?

iatee, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

this is a good time to ask the question "what is the difference between zip files and rar files?"

Rar compresses more than zip, I think the compression algorithm is just more complex or something

frogbs, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey guys, I wonder what this album will SOUND like?!

dentarthurdent (dog latin), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I think zip files are still used because WinZip doesn't do rars or something, I guess it's kind of the same reason why mp3 is still used even if other formats are technically 'better'

frogbs, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

because rar sometimes confuses people and zip is better known/maybe more universal?

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

so why would anyone ever use a zip file?

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zip compresses faster for big files, rar has more licensing issues

ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

zip is open format, rar is proprietory.

ledge, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Thought that 'waiting' artwork is more Meat Puppets circa 1985

philippe is standing on it (MaresNest), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I have learned so much this morning, thank you

iatee, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

man i wonder how many mbs the compressed archive of this album is going to be!

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

c'mon we can get five days more compression software discussion out of this before the album arrives.

ledge, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

radiohead's decision to make this a zip file now infuriates me btw

iatee, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Well it's also easier to figure out what to do with a file ending in ".zip" ("hmm, maybe I need to... unzip it?") than what to do with a file ending in ".rar" ("I spent 10 minutes roaring into the microphone and I still can't get to my mp3s ;_;")

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Please note that compression software data for the entire discography is also included. This was the only data made available with the application, and in order to accurately estimate and verify hearing results, individual album compression data will need to be obtained from the band.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't even think Factory released a file compression program under a cat number.

dentarthurdent (dog latin), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Jordan - I would guess about 82 mbs compressed. I would guess they would use 320 kbps MP3s after the shitstorm that occured after In Rainbows was released as a 160 kbps MP3 (really a dumb decision, but whatever), I still think they probably have no idea what VBR is so I doubt they'd use it. I think 320 is like 2 mb = 1 minute, and my guess is this album will be 52 minutes long, so 104 mb compressed which should be like 82, but my math might be totally off.

frogbs, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

104 mb compressed which should be like 82

That would be SERIOUSLY compressed. I'd guess that 104mb worth of data compressed by standard rar settings would result in something around 96-98mb.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

compression of an already compressed mp3 will be more like 1%.

ledge, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I guess you're probably right...so my guess would be 98 then. I don't really pay attention to compressed file sizes anymore since we live in a world of terabyte hard drives but it doesn't surprise me that I got it totally wrong.

frogbs, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

i like to sidechain compress my files to the kick drum

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

zip feels like a nut, rar doesn't

aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess I'm always hoping that they won't sound grim
But it's my destiny to buy The King of Limbs

buzza, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

So, about the music...

I'm excited to see a tracklist. There have been a couple of new songs that Thom played over the last year (titles escape me right now) that didn't impress me at the time, but then again, I wasn't that impressed by "house of cards" when it was first played, and that ended up being one of my favorite songs on In Rainbows.

fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu (Z S), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

There were a few songs on Jonny's Norweigian Wood soundtrack that I thought could have been transformed into really cool rh songs.

fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu (Z S), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Some of the tracks off that are basically the soundcheck arrangement of The Present Tense.

Melissa W, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

So... right now there's not really much material for us to get excited about right? Just a release date and some artwork. Hope to see at least some tracklist before the record comes out... more fun to speculate on actual songs... guessing which song got resurrected from the vault this time... (lift, big boots, true love waits...)... is 'these are my twisted words' included somewhere in there and is it a clue on the sort of sound we should expect?

Moka, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Wonder will 'Twisted Words' be on it? Or hey maybe 'Lift' at last lol. this site seems to think it might know what's going on. dunno mind:
http://www.citizeninsane.eu/tkol.html

piscesx, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link


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