Kanye West - Dark Twisted Fantasy

kanyewest: I just threw some kazoo on this bitch

I know what he means but at first I imagined him flinging kazoos at some poor old lady

whoa @ rihanna's outfit in the "all of the lights" video

http://www.vevo.com/watch/kanye-west/all-of-the-lights/USUV71002949

re: video. no fergie, no cred.

video sucks, aside from rihanna's rack

Don't really like how they changed up the choruses and ending.

The parts with the words/credits are pretty much a rip of the credits from "Enter The Void".

he's a like a three stooges of all moes.

― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, January 24, 2011 11:03 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark

chortled p.hard at this

weirdly I was suddenly hit by the desire to listen to this album earlier today and had just started doing so when I opened the thread

did we eventually reach a consensus on whether Kanye's verses on "Gorgeous" are actually good or just seem that way in comparison to the rest of the album? I incline towards "actually good", although still roll my eyes at some of the punchlines ("This week's a bad massage, I need a happy ending")

O_____O rihanna

'All Of The Lights' sucks so much ass I imagine Kayne hacked at Rihanna's frock with a boxcutter to distract from exactly how much his song blows. Always my least favourite on the record.

lol it's basically the best song on the album

Guess Kanye and Hype have been watching Enter The Void. Or they've seen the credits at least

Oh i see Moodles already mentioned that

too much time on ilx files: on the first frame of the video w/ all the names my eyes immediately zeroed in on "jordan" with "keller" directly beneath it"

did the "Monster" video ever officially drop? i remember hearing about teasers and an unfinished leak and thinking "i'll wait until the real thing's out to check for it" and never heard anything else about it.

He wears his influences a bit too boldly, but I guess subtlety is not this man's trademark.

man you guys hyped up rihanna's thing too much, it's just like an outfit that shows her side-boob? gtfo

video's great overall tho!

My jaw hit the floor when I saw Rihanna. I'm not sure it's moved back into place yet.

I like this video overall.

hate hate hate this video except for the Rihanna thing.

then again Hype Williams annoys me

gotta admit i'm surprised how humbly (?) kanye reacted to arcade fire winning the grammy. like, over-enthusiastic celebration... well, at least as much as i can surmise in a twitter feed. maybe the whole apology in this album is to be taken seriously?

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naww

you really had me on the edge of my seat there

Was Kanye supposed to be miffed at not winning a Grammy he wasn't up for?

my jaw hit the floor when i read kelpolaris' post -- thankfully it moved back into place when he revealed he was kidding

this is a stupid question but would you say that "so appalled," structurally speaking, has two choruses? I couldn't decide if the chorus is "one hand in the air, if you don't really care..." or "champagne wishes, dirty white bitches" or if one of those parts is something else.

i think of the "champagne wishes" part as the proper chorus and the "hand in the air" part as just an additional refrain swizz improvised over the song after a lot of the other stuff was done.

huh. the "one hand in the air" part seems more like a proper chorus in that it's more sonically distinct from the verses.

i think it's def "thirty white bitches"

that song is utter garbage tho

i keep telling myself that i'm wrong about kanYe and that i'll eventually come around to this album's brilliance. but after watching the 'all of the lights' video, hearing those godawful opening lines about MJ and that rocky theme song bullshit, i know im not wrong. who the fuck is this charlatan? dude's aesthetics are just so out of whack

otm

my hate for "All Of The Lights" has really blossomed since it's started getting radio play -- i can't believe he does the "i hold my head/ spent that bread" rhyme twice

the verses on that song are so bad

http://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/40558382377082880#
lol

Anyone know why the official video for 'Monster' has been removed from the youtubes? I only find fan made vids and lo-quality clips.

Also: Jay-z's contribution makes me cringe everytime I hear it. Is there an edited version to be found without him?

How many fans of this album have since recanted?

1. Alfred, Lord Sotosyn
2.

I was firmly, joyously, unyieldingly in the hate column, ilxor.

For a second I thought this was the REM thread and my head was spinning.

i have such high hopes that in 9 years we'll be looking back on this decade and marveling how much better hip hop got than this album, with or without Kanye's help

but who will break it to SFJ?

I was firmly, joyously, unyieldingly in the hate column, ilxor.

ha i know sorry

I don't think this album is supposed to be a benchmark album for the genre... or is it? It's a good album but not precisely innovative or influential imho.

It had a spectral influence on certain critics.

but who will break it to SFJ? SFJ, Rolling Stone, Pitchfork, PopMatters, EW, XXL, The Independent, and every other critical institution that has already inducted MBDTMDTBMFDMBTFBMFTDTMF into the canon?

Fucking hideous mess.

Since this is hardly the first time a later album by an established artist has been hailed as an immediate classic, there's no reason to believe anyone will have to recant or "remove" it from the canon. As I kinda said upthread, you just put My Aim Is True in the Top 100 Of All Time a few years later and ignore that you gave a higher rating to Imperial Bedroom when it came out.

the canon is established over time, not by immediate reviews - by definition MBDTF is not canon yet

ideally in 9 years the very idea of the canon will have been destroyed, though

Talking Heads Pazz'n'jop Placements: 77 (#7, 170 points), More Songs About Buildings And Food (#5, 317 points), Fear Of Music (#4, 620 points), Remain In Light (#3, 863 points), Speaking In Tongues (#3, 746 points), Little Creatures (#1, 1078 points)

It's not like anyone had to answer for this.

so were talking heads getting better, or was music getting worse....?