Young Galaxy - Shapeshifting (2011) ~*produced by Studio's D. Lissvik*~

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okay, that's cool, I can understand faulting them for "lack of ecstasy" if that's what you feel the music is calling for — appreciate you taking the time to elaborate yr position!

proso_Opopoeia (bernard snowy), Thursday, 3 February 2011 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link

(... but I might have to disagree with you on "We Have Everything", which is easily my favorite track so far — I think the vocals there do achieve a level of genuine ecstasy)

proso_Opopoeia (bernard snowy), Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link

The bloke's vocals are fine. Also, the two duetting sound good cf. 'visionaries', but yeah, it's just a shame that the woman's vocals are foregrounded at any point. Still I am sure I will make my peace w/ them

Vasco da Gama, Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link

well, what attracts me to the music is basically the blissed-out ~cosmic~ vibes it brings - the spaciousness that you can sink into. basically it creates this perfect mood. but the ordinariness of the vocals - the lack of reach and the lack of ecstasy in them - works against that mood for me, and kind of ruins it. (cf vocalists who i think have worked really well on balearic-sounding music - christabelle, kathy diamond, qzen...)

Having heard the first half of this I think you're guilty of misunderstanding what Lissvik and the band are attempting here. The vocals are totally appropriate for the music, vocalists actually SOUNDED like this in the 80s, on records that Lissvik is obviously hugely influenced by.

It's telling that the three vocalists you mention are all from the glossier and more disco-oriented end of the spectrum whereas Lissvik and Studio draw from naff 80s yacht pop and (on West Coast at least) post-punk as much if not more as they do from disco. The vibe is 'seaside wine bar' more than 'ecstacy'.

That said I'm not sure how much I like this record, the vocalists are almost too studied in their manner for the music and in there with the backing the whole thing feels a bit pastichey in a bad way.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago) link

What I'm getting I think is that you like Lissvik/Studio more that most of what they're influenced by (which is often a bit naff, kind of cheesy, and amateurish as much as it's transcendent) and then when he goes and does something like this, which is totally consistent with his whole aesthetic, you try and rationalise out the bits that you don't like when they're really part and parcel of what he's been doing all along.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago) link

if he wants to make wine bar music why can't he get sade-calibre singers in :(

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Because he wants to sound amateurish! That's the whole point.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link

aaaargh @ the cult of amateurishness

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually, I'd say less "amateurish" and more "democratic". The idea that anyone can get involved and you don't necessarily need to sound like Sade - exclusivity and Balearic vibes don't go well together.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link

(As an aside, no one who reps for Waka Flocka Flame and early grime can really go "aaaargh @ the cult of amateurishness" with any credibility)

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Matt DC, you seem much more knowledgeable abt this than me, but we are basically in agreement re: the album's vibe — esp less "amateurish" and more "democratic". "cult of amateurishness" is precisely what I was trying to distance this from — they don't strike me as opposed (in principle or in practice) to expertise and polish, nor do their vocals set off my affectation-alarms; I think they're good singers who have given it their best effort (rather than e.g. cloying 'moose-whispering), and I find the end result aesthetically pleasing.

proso_Opopoeia (bernard snowy), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link

really though I would be willing to defend an entire album's worth of this girl's vocals based solely on the "oh SPARE me toDAY" in "We Have Everything"

proso_Opopoeia (bernard snowy), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

(As an aside, no one who reps for Waka Flocka Flame and early grime can really go "aaaargh @ the cult of amateurishness" with any credibility)

O.T.M.

Really enjoying this album. Makes me wish Lissvik will produce the next Junior Boys album for some reason.

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

"Cover Your Tracks" and the Lissvik version of Fever Ray's "When I Grow Up" had me thinking about how awesome a Studio-produced album from The Knife would be.

o0o00h really? (boxedjoy), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

i wish my problem with the vocals only came down to my "perceived connotations of 'indieness'" because then i might actually be able to get over it and come to love that album as much as i really, really want to. that breathy warble to her voice just sounds sooo affected, it just grates on me.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

hey lex yr vocals are really annoying

gr8080, Thursday, 3 February 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, after hearing "cover your tracks" I also look forward to a lissvik-produced The Knife Album!

Daniel, Thursday, 3 February 2011 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Standout tracks so far are 'High and Goodbye', which is a haunting, eerie and dark song with a piano outro to simply die for. And 'B.S.E.' which starts out like a Kim Wilde track, and undergoes a monumental transformation in the middle of the song... Wow. Such a great, fascinating record.

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 4 February 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link

speaking of vocals: really love the part where the dude goes "we've lost our eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehh" and I always think he's gonna say "edge" b/c of LCD Soundsystem but instead he just keeps going "eeeeehhh-uh-ehhhhh-uh-ehhhhh" and then finally like four bars later he goes "eeeeeeeehhhh-uh-essence"

proso_Opopoeia (bernard snowy), Friday, 4 February 2011 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @ the closing track making me think of The Black Swan

― gr8080, Thursday, February 3, 2011 1:06 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark

That doesn't happen to be B.S.E. does it? In which she sings "Black Swan Event" (BSE)? :-)

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the female vocals are fab tbh

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I assume that gr8080 was referencing the lines in the last song about sprouting feathers and shit

proso_Opopoeia (bernard snowy), Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link

this is a pretty good record, love the grooves, vocals range from 'good' to 'just there'

ciderpress, Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:22 (thirteen years ago) link

otm

if you're letting the vocals impede your enjoyment of this awesome musical experience then i feel bad for you son

gr8080, Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link

splendid tray of sounds, and i love the vocals, both male and female. she suits the 80s romanticism especially well. listened to (watched) "we have everything" three times in a row. great video

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Female vocalist strikes me as a mixture of Annie Lennox, Pat Benatar and early Sarah McLachlan - not amateurish!

Tim F, Saturday, 5 February 2011 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link

i want to like this record, i really do. but the truth is that there are aspects of the lissvik/studio aesthetic that i prefer more than what they're exploring here and i'll leave it at that until i give this a real chance to sink in (i came completely full circle on the little ones remix, so i'm definitely not ruling out the possibility of changing my mind).

annie lennox is a good comparison, and that makes me want to like this even more. especially since divisive vocals are so common amongst great balearic records almost by definition

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Saturday, 5 February 2011 07:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh man. I really love this!

ENBB, Monday, 7 February 2011 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link

and I like the female vocals

ENBB, Monday, 7 February 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I really really love this. The vocals are definitely the weakest link, but I'd rather hear the female vox than the guy.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 February 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @ the closing track making me think of The Black Swan

― gr8080, Thursday, February 3, 2011 1:06 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark

That doesn't happen to be B.S.E. does it? In which she sings "Black Swan Event" (BSE)? :-)

― LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, February 5, 2011 12:19 AM (2 days ago)

No, I see what gr8080 is talking about. The final track, the title track, has lyrics like "feathers push through my skin", "creature of change", and "I am shapeshifting". I can totally see what he was getting at.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 February 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link

i mixed 'peripheral visions' into a set last wknd & it went ovr p well

still not ~totally~ sold on this but i think its got some really great tracks at least

cowboys_defeats_magic_earth2.jpg (Lamp), Monday, 7 February 2011 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

For what it's worth, within like 5-10 listens to that first posted track, we have everything, the vocals have gone from "eh" to perfect.

EDB, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 04:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Female vocalist strikes me as a mixture of Annie Lennox, Pat Benatar and early Sarah McLachlan - not amateurish!

― Tim F, Friday, February 4, 2011 10:25 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

she sounds like the chick from the cranberries!

max, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 04:51 (thirteen years ago) link

anyway i think i might like this more without vocals. this & the new destroyer & the new cut copy are all terrific albums getting dragged down (for me) by irritating (to me) vocals

max, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 04:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I agree about all of those LP's. On all the music is great but vocals grate too much to repeat listens. Wonder if this will be the next pthfrk bnm to complete the trifecta?

du mein bestie (micarl), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 08:11 (thirteen years ago) link

why does this trend for indie balearica exist. don't want it, won't see it.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 08:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Lex, you do realise that the first balearic revival thread on ILX was actually the Studio thread, right?

Tim F, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 09:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Between Studio and A Mountain of One, balearic revivalism was always already indie.

Tim F, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 09:06 (thirteen years ago) link

i never liked a mountain of one precisely because of the vocals :(

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 09:07 (thirteen years ago) link

but there's so much balearic/nu-disco stuff without bad vox, without any indieness, that it's quite obvious why i don't think of it as indie

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 09:09 (thirteen years ago) link

i think destroyer might be my first big war of 2011

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 09:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Balearic was always the indie circle on the space disco / beardo disco / balearic venn diagram.

Maybe you really just like space disco and disco revivalism with balearic elements?

Tim F, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 09:11 (thirteen years ago) link

i love the amo1 vocals

max, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 09:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I dug them on the collected works (for the most part) and esp the first EP, but I haven't been able to sit through Institute of Joy.

Tim F, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 09:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe you really just like space disco and disco revivalism with balearic elements?

i guess? i never really paid attention to the taxonomy of any of this. i like lindstrøm and d. lissvik instrumentals and everything touched by permanent vacation and that amazing disco re-edit in your thread and the latest magician mix and aeroplane when they were good and todd terje. does this mean i have to stop using the word balearic :(

but c'mon for real destroyer are the actual worst in both theory and practice

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 09:16 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean really if i could pick the thing i LEAST WANT in this music it's THAT FUCKING INDIE VOICE. why is this happening? why are people suckers for that shit?

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 09:17 (thirteen years ago) link

i guess? i never really paid attention to the taxonomy of any of this. i like lindstrøm and d. lissvik instrumentals and everything touched by permanent vacation and that amazing disco re-edit in your thread and the latest magician mix and aeroplane when they were good and todd terje. does this mean i have to stop using the word balearic :(

Well if you want to avoid inadvertently referring to stuff you might not like, yeah.

Tim F, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 09:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Lex have we checked on your opinion of Steely Dan (excluding Tori covers of same) before? I feel like we have but I can't remember what the conclusion was.

Tim F, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 09:25 (thirteen years ago) link

since when did "balearic" refer only to the indie shit and not to the good stuff, anyway? is this a just-ilm thing or did some disco revivalist committee decide on this at some point

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 09:27 (thirteen years ago) link

new record coming w j*r•my gr••ensp•n

sean gramophone, Friday, 12 February 2021 14:35 (three years ago) link

both the spinoff projects are very good. riches on the slow burn late galaxy vibe and light conductor doing eurorack yoga tunes.

wait new YG record!?

adam, Friday, 12 February 2021 14:36 (three years ago) link

y

sean gramophone, Friday, 12 February 2021 14:39 (three years ago) link

please remember your vowels and verbs, punk rockers fought steely dan to the death for your right to use them

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Friday, 12 February 2021 15:19 (three years ago) link

new record coming w j*r•my gr••ensp•n

!
As a producer?

willem, Friday, 12 February 2021 15:39 (three years ago) link

ten months pass...

extremely bummed to check the YG twitter only to find a bunch of idiotic web3/NFT bullshit

adam, Sunday, 19 December 2021 12:52 (two years ago) link


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