yeah, sounds like a lot more concentrated voting in this compared to the tracks.
― skip, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link
P&J: 220thPitchfork: DNP
Fuck P&J and Fuck Pitchfork.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link
never knowingly heard this band. What're they like? What song should I check out?
I used to like it in polls like this when notable comments from album threads were put up, although I know it's a bit much to ask :-)
― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link
I think it might have been a runner-up album on the Pitchfork list?
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link
smashing album cover btw.
― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah fuck a mostly indie website for not covering a relatively obscure metal band! xpost
― sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link
selected youtubes - URLs not embeds! - from the albums' fans/voters would prob be appreciated
i have no idea what's going to place in this poll, let alone place. well, am hopeful for 11 of my ballot, anyway.
gonna have to drop out for 45 mins in a bit to interview one of the artists that i assume will be on this!
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link
tell erykah i <3 her and bag lady is my jam lex
― sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link
I keep confusing Harvey Milk and Titus Andronicus and Abe Vigoda
― vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link
it's not erykah :(
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv2cj9wL0I/AAAAAAAAAV8/dQmJiutbH88/quadron.jpg
76. QUADRON — Quadron (240 points, 12 votes)P&J: 433rdPitchfork: DNPSpotify: listen
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link
― vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, January 31, 2011 10:13 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
harvey milk has been around longer than titus andronicus and abe vigoda put together btw
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link
oh. i'm sure i remember you mentioning interviewing her last week. oh well, just tell whoever it is that bag lady is awesome and they'll never write anything that good unless they pull their finger out
― sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link
this is going to be painful for me, isn't it
― acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link
i haven't heard much of this year's harvey milk but they're a spectacular band, so i approve!
― the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link
quadron album is great, particularly "slippin'", "day", "pressure" if you need tracks to check out folks
― ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link
that quadron record was on Andy K's end of year list, right? that probably functions as a great endorsement for some folks (myself included)
hate the album cover though :(
I couldn't get into that Quadron album at all.
― Matt DC, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link
I have the Quadron album. It's good. I have no idea about her/them.
I don't like the album cover though - so many albums with that kind of thing now. Really reminds me of Zoomer by Schneider TM or that recent one by Phil Selway from Radiohead.
― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link
xposts
Fever, can you pull some descriptive quotes from ILX about these albums?
― acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link
again it's hard to pull a "standout track" from the harvey milk album but here's a sample track that's fairly representative:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta0RdajnegU&feature=related
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link
is this the happy xx?
― sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link
It felt like a kind of weird Scandipop attempt at doing Sade to me.
― Matt DC, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link
yeahhhh quadron! i CANED this over the summer - perfect for easing those hangovers in weather too hot to breathe. an album that kind of hangs in the heat and just shimmers slightly.
buster keatonpressure
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link
No, but other people can. xps to lj
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link
that quadron record was on Andy K's end of year list, right?
it was andy k mentioning them offhand in the sideways r&b thread that turned me on to them
i love that you'd never actually guess they were scandinavian if you didn't know
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link
That one about fitting into your old jeans was the one I put in my neo-soul mix when I was on heavily on that tip a few months ago.
― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link
recent harvey milk a relative disappointment after life...
good band though
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Quadron comes up as 2009 on spotify, ha. Seems a little bland on first listen.
― emil.y, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link
these spare neo-soul acts leave me cold...which may be the point, which I'm missing completely
― skip, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
would like to request that people mostly use youtube links instead of youtube embeds in this thread, since long threads with lots of embeds crash/hang browsers for a lot of people
― ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Quadron was released in Denmark in 2009, and gets in on a technicality by having been released in the US/UK in 2010.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
this Harvey Milk song kicks assssssss
― acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link
dig "pressure" from that quadron album. "slippin" isn't bad either. jackson 5 via the XX.
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Is anyone else super curious where Glasser (and also maybe Chemical Brothers) is going to place?
― vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, "i got up alone" was the HM track i was thinking of posting. it's good, very representative. if you dig it, you'll dig the whole album. personally, i like it when they aren't trying to be so deliberately difficult. the cloud of crushing doom and despair makes the pop and "metal" moments so astounding - when they choose to let them in.
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Like I really have no idea if it's going to pop up today or wind up being #4 or something.
― vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link
quadron is surprisingly not bad. much better than the xx.
― acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv2zcO40gI/AAAAAAAAAWI/UVisoidPOXY/rihanna.jpg
75. RIHANNA — Loud (244 points, 9 votes)P&J: 271stPitchfork: DNPSpotify: listen
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link
figure glasser will place in the 20s. no idea about chem bros.
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Quadron album is a bit... XX meets Joss Stone imo. Not feeling it.
[ducks, covers]
― sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link
do like how the solo in "i got alone" is basically a visit from the residents
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link
I really like the idea of a doom band throwing in strutting pop movements, so I'll clearly have to listen to HM a little more assiduously. I have 'Life...' on my computer
ah rihanna. does anyone really think that album brought much new to the party or were they just filling their ballot with stuff they were always going to? :P
haaa
― acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
er, "i alone got..."
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
honestly so surprised that anyone has time for that rihanna album...it's so lazy and tossed-together and inadequate. kind of like "hello pop listeners! you can forget that Angry Rihanna ever existed! there is only Happy Rihanna!" except it's way too forced and heavy-handed to actually succeed in the same way that her old sunny reggae stuff did. i guess "only girl (in the world)" is, er, really catchy?
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
ilx can be very unimaginative, sometimes
quadron are kinda breezy and fun on the basis of the two songs Lex has youtubed, can see how a whole album's worth might start dragging tho
― acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link
but then it's not the first time a pop act has followed in introspective, dark and somewhat daring effort with a safe, conservative follow-up
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link
P&J: 220th Pitchfork: DNP
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:08 (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
can I politely request you refrain from doing this throughout the entire thread thx
― Rogaine's a hell of a rug (DJ Mencap), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, even w/o Needle I expect some basic string edit distance computations would handle a lot - but even then there are "cleaning" issues like whether a release is permissible (e.g. actually came out last year), whether two releases should be combined like we did with Yelawolf or whether two albums with very similar names are actually distinct. Having a public nominations thread means informed people can weigh in (I would have had no idea about Yelawolf).
― Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Friday, 4 February 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago) link
otm re: cleaning issues - many many people seem not to pay attention to the YEAR BEING POLLED at all.
also i think a nominations thread (plus gap between then and the voting) is more inclusive - allows people who may not have been paying attention during the year to have a bit of a catch-up.
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link
only 1 more poll needs to be done between now and next jan tbh and that is the last decade (the oooooos).
― if there is a King Kenny, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 February 2011 13:42 (thirteen years ago) link
didn't we just do a 06-10 less than a year ago though? maybe get a bit of distance from that first
― ciderpress, Friday, 4 February 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago) link
err '05-'09 i mean
― ciderpress, Friday, 4 February 2011 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link
I really really want to do an alternate '00-'04 poll, where none of the albums/songs that placed in the 2004 poll are eligible. I might start making moves to do that after there's some breathing room from this one.
― hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Friday, 4 February 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I might poll the 50 best biscuits.
― Matt DC, Friday, 4 February 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean re-running a list for a period ILM has already covered is a bit Q magazine.
― Matt DC, Friday, 4 February 2011 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link
bourbon ftw
― if there is a King Kenny, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 February 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Only poll I'm really keen to see is a pre-1960 (1950?)tracks poll, though I suspect that may be a niche opinion.
More or less happy with the current voting set up, though would prefer a weighted/unweighted ballot as an option next year.
― State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Friday, 4 February 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago) link
would love a jazz poll tbh. I doubt glenn would be interested in helping me with that tho. If he agrees to set needle up though I'd totally be up for it
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 February 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link
I really really want to do an alternate '00-'04 poll, where none of the albums/songs that placed in the 2004 poll are eligible.
i suggest looking at the albums/songs that placed in the 101-200 range --pretty good list of alternates to the top 100
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 4 February 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link
my 2012 resolution is to vote next year
― الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 February 2011 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link
I'd like to see that Electronic albums/tracks poll happen. Seemed to peter out back in Oct.
― President Keyes, Friday, 4 February 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
iirc that one broke down over infighting about what was and wasn't eligible genre-wise, i think the poll creator had a mnml/idm/ambient-type poll in mind and a bunch of people were nominating synthpop and new wave type ilm-love stuff and getting mad when they were shot down
― ciderpress, Friday, 4 February 2011 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link
i unveiled the results, you may have missed it because it was in this thread
YOU TOTALLY MISSED THE ILX HEAVY ROCK/METAL ALBUM POLL COUNTDOWN, SUCKA (CLICK FOR A RECAP)
― omar little, Friday, 4 February 2011 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link
haha
― President Keyes, Friday, 4 February 2011 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, February 4, 2011 12:40 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah, lot of good stuff there but not remotely all of the good records that missed the top 100 that people would probably vote for now.
― hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Friday, 4 February 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link
I've never understood the point of doing nominations in the first place. What's wrong with having everyone just send in a list with their top 25 albums and singles? With 15 noms/person x 100-odd people making nominations, most people's favourites end up on the nominations list anyway.
More importantly: it cuts down on the time needed to run the poll because you can cut out the ~ 3 wk nomination period and publish the poll results in January.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 4 February 2011 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link
i thought the point was in large part to standardize the name, spelling, format of each nominated item.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 4 February 2011 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I guess nominations are good for ironing out the "which year did this come out" difficulties and they remind people of stuff, but otherwise, yeah.
― President Keyes, Friday, 4 February 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link
If it's a 70's or 80's or "all-time genre" poll, I can understand wanting to remind people of stuff, but not for a year-end poll for a year that just ended. Standardizing the formats is obviously a huge help to the people running the poll and doing the coding, which I know nothing about so I won't comment on how big of a headache it might be to not have that in place.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 4 February 2011 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link
w/r/t the delay - i think that's a positive. albums are still released well into december - some of them placed this year! which wouldn't nec be the case if the poll was done a few weeks earlier. and doing it in the dog days of january never exactly hurts enthusiasm.
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
nominations are useful for me for reminding me of albums I wanted to check out but ended up forgetting about, and also for albums I did listen to and love but might forget to put on my list
― peter in montreal, Friday, 4 February 2011 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link
^ yeah, this. nominations thread assists the process in a number of ways, not just in the standardization of ballots. i personally appreciate the memory-jogging and heads-upping, along with the extra time it provides for (re)evaluation before ballots are officially cast.
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Friday, 4 February 2011 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Veil Veil Vanish - Change in the Neon LightEngineers - In Praise of Morethe Prids - Chronosynclastic
i like these ones trayce! in fact the prids was in my top 5 on my ballot iirc
― bouquet brigade (electricsound), Saturday, 5 February 2011 05:48 (thirteen years ago) link
in the shoegazing poll, half of my ballot at least was made up of stuff I checked out from the nominations thread, stuff I never would've heard of w/o it (Skywave, Joy Formidables, you are the coolest)--of course this meant my ballot favored heavily on stuff that got nominated in the thread's first two days, but still, it was v useful...
also, some dude I like your idea of doing another '00-'04 poll but let's not do an alternate one, let's just an updated nu-ILX one. I don't want to deal with any constrictions on what you can &/or can't vote, esp. since we aren't doing a whole decade poll for the forseeable future...
― ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 5 February 2011 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Having done an 00-04 poll and an 05-09 poll already, the next time we even touch the first decade of this century should either be an all-in thing or a genre poll of some kind. That said, I'm not advocating anyone start anything of the sort in the near future.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 5 February 2011 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link