The teenpop thread has to keep going because the battle to integrate the genre into a discussion of pop music in general hasn't been won. Sure, Britney's album got its own thread, but we couldn't have discussed Ashley Tisdale's album on a general pop thread and gotten a good discussion out of it. The teenpop thread exists for a good reason: it's a real genre, with real depth and complex songs, that is completely dismissed by the majority of pop music fans on ILM. The Paris Hilton album comes to mind-- Lex started a thread about it that became a continued series of people mocking him for starting it, and on the teenpop thread the album got the serious discussion it deserved.
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 31 December 2007 21:52 (8 years ago) Permalink
"Pop" sounds way more bland and chickenshit and compromised than "teenpop" to me; it's too all-encompassing (plus just wait until it gets overrun by Big Star and Blue Ash and Badfinger fans.) (Not that they should be shut out or anything. Sometimes I'm even one of those myself.)
And my problem with "U.S. charts" is, uh, what about teenpop that doesn't make the U.S. charts (like, say Skye Sweetnam and Hope Partlow and the Veronicas and Pretty Donkey and fill-in-the-Europop-star-I-never-heard-of in the past few years)? Where does that go?
I suggest: Rolling Bubblegum Thread '08. (But it's too late now, maybe.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 31 December 2007 22:21 (8 years ago) Permalink
livejournal really frustrating too, plus with poptimists you've got to get up at like 6 in the morning Mountain Time or most of the conversations are over. Freaky Trigger coulda worked, maybe, except the print is too small. So it isn't like there's another specific gathering place for "teenpop" (or whatever) other than here. Things'll hop from Nia's journal to bedbugs to Freaky Trigger to this thread to Will's blog to Hazel's journal to Lex's journal to poptimists to Mike's blog to Cis's journal to Kat's journal to Dave's journal etc
See, this all just seems really diffuse to me, and makes the discussion even more closed, somehow. And confusing; I've probably never even seen most of the journals and blogs that Frank is referring to; I'm not even sure what most of them are. Which is probably why I never managed to get caught up in the discussions in those places, or to join in there. If somebody says something really smart in one of those places, why can't it just be quoted or linked to from Rolling Whatever? -- which, as even Frank seems to be admitting, seems to be the only place where all sorts of conversations can converge. (As for individual-album threads, like the Britney or Paris ones, I've never looked at those, and have no intention to; I can't really imagine caring that much about any particular album.) (Well, okay, I cared that much about a Big N Rich album once. But that was the exception that proves the rule I guess.) And anyway, what makes the rolling threads great is that they can go off on wide-ranging tangents -- except those rolling threads where idiots get upset when such tangents happen, which hasn't seemed to be a problem with the teenpop one.
― xhuxk, Monday, 31 December 2007 22:31 (8 years ago) Permalink
Gotta run until '08 but:
Rolling Bubblegum Thread '08.
Seconded if someone else wants to start it.
― dabug, Monday, 31 December 2007 23:50 (8 years ago) Permalink
rolling US charts 2008/talk about "pop" here
― J0rdan S., Monday, 31 December 2007 23:51 (8 years ago) Permalink
2008 isn't for another few hours. But if no one starts it before 12:01 AM EST tonight, I will.
― Mordechai Shinefield, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 00:32 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Tape Store, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 01:40 (8 years ago) Permalink
Bubblegummy goodness continues: Rolling Debutante Bubblegum Teenpop Thread 2008
― Greg Fanoe, Thursday, 3 January 2008 17:42 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 28 April 2008 21:35 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 28 April 2008 21:37 (7 years ago) Permalink