Kanye West - Dark Twisted Fantasy

xp -- yeah that "(for me)" wasn't boilerplate; i know that shtick is exactly what amuses/interests lots of people who love this album. the rapper i really liked this year was curren$y, who sits on his couch taking bong rips and eating ritz crackers while acting like he has fuck-you money. maybe i just liked him cuz that was my summer.

deej: i dunno, a guy?

also a rock critic/generalist

sigh the polite thing is to ask "who are you?" when the person is in the thread rather than talk about them as if they weren't there

point taken. hi DLH.

hi!

(my name's theon and this is me.)

Oh, what up Theon! We met once. (I'm R0dney Gr3ene btw)

were you at EMP in '08, Rev? I think so. If yes, then you've met twice.

i remember the Rev at EMP 07 (hey!), but i don't remember much of anything from 08. i was distraught.

I don't remember bumping into him at the 08 EMP.

at the 07 EMP, you cheerfully asked me "so where are you from?" and i said "stylus magazine?" in an if-you've-heard-of-that voice, and you pointed at your nametag and said "um me too i meant where are you from" and i felt like a jackass

that whole trip was kind of a long series of social errors though. still awesome.

Hahaha. I completely forgot about that.

"stylus magazine?"

awesome answer, no snark

why is everyone being all 'manners please!' around here lately? i didnt mean anything by it \oO/

anyway i think curren$y does have money! seems pretty likely

Hi, DLH! While we're all 'hello'ing, figured I'd throw in that you've been throwing truthbombs left right and centre for the past week or two.

Especially, this

intersection of this big social problem and this big specific ego had all the friction and weirdness and revelations of decent fiction. the reason i don't really like any of the writing on dark twisted fantasy is that as interaction with a world not constructed on his terms has become less and less necessary for this guy, his songs have become more neatly and completely about What It's Like To Be Kanye

which I've been struggling to articulate for a month or two now.

stylus r.i.p., that was my favorite shit ever

thanks alex! i struggled to articulate it for a couple months too; that was basically a transcription of a prepared speech.

curren$y definitely has more money than me but this thread's about kanye west -- and anyway all i meant was that the stuff curren$y brags about doing is often stuff any 22-year-old slacker could do with a day off and some weed money. (except for when he claims to be flying on planes where everyone is high, which i don't think he has enough money for.) he just acts like it's really awesome and rarefied. which it is!

weird that this thread was close by,

thinking about the ramones made me dislike this album even more, because it reminds me how much they accomplished with so little and how little this album accomplishes with so much

it's like the opposite of what hip hop meant to me, the way that an amazing beat and amazing rapper could really just knock you out.

h3lg brings *law*

kanyewest: I just threw some kazoo on this bitch

I know what he means but at first I imagined him flinging kazoos at some poor old lady

whoa @ rihanna's outfit in the "all of the lights" video

http://www.vevo.com/watch/kanye-west/all-of-the-lights/USUV71002949

re: video. no fergie, no cred.

video sucks, aside from rihanna's rack

Don't really like how they changed up the choruses and ending.

The parts with the words/credits are pretty much a rip of the credits from "Enter The Void".

he's a like a three stooges of all moes.

― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, January 24, 2011 11:03 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark

chortled p.hard at this

weirdly I was suddenly hit by the desire to listen to this album earlier today and had just started doing so when I opened the thread

did we eventually reach a consensus on whether Kanye's verses on "Gorgeous" are actually good or just seem that way in comparison to the rest of the album? I incline towards "actually good", although still roll my eyes at some of the punchlines ("This week's a bad massage, I need a happy ending")

O_____O rihanna

'All Of The Lights' sucks so much ass I imagine Kayne hacked at Rihanna's frock with a boxcutter to distract from exactly how much his song blows. Always my least favourite on the record.

lol it's basically the best song on the album

Guess Kanye and Hype have been watching Enter The Void. Or they've seen the credits at least

Oh i see Moodles already mentioned that

too much time on ilx files: on the first frame of the video w/ all the names my eyes immediately zeroed in on "jordan" with "keller" directly beneath it"

did the "Monster" video ever officially drop? i remember hearing about teasers and an unfinished leak and thinking "i'll wait until the real thing's out to check for it" and never heard anything else about it.

He wears his influences a bit too boldly, but I guess subtlety is not this man's trademark.

man you guys hyped up rihanna's thing too much, it's just like an outfit that shows her side-boob? gtfo

video's great overall tho!

My jaw hit the floor when I saw Rihanna. I'm not sure it's moved back into place yet.

I like this video overall.

hate hate hate this video except for the Rihanna thing.

then again Hype Williams annoys me

gotta admit i'm surprised how humbly (?) kanye reacted to arcade fire winning the grammy. like, over-enthusiastic celebration... well, at least as much as i can surmise in a twitter feed. maybe the whole apology in this album is to be taken seriously?

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naww

you really had me on the edge of my seat there

Was Kanye supposed to be miffed at not winning a Grammy he wasn't up for?

my jaw hit the floor when i read kelpolaris' post -- thankfully it moved back into place when he revealed he was kidding

this is a stupid question but would you say that "so appalled," structurally speaking, has two choruses? I couldn't decide if the chorus is "one hand in the air, if you don't really care..." or "champagne wishes, dirty white bitches" or if one of those parts is something else.

i think of the "champagne wishes" part as the proper chorus and the "hand in the air" part as just an additional refrain swizz improvised over the song after a lot of the other stuff was done.

huh. the "one hand in the air" part seems more like a proper chorus in that it's more sonically distinct from the verses.

i think it's def "thirty white bitches"

that song is utter garbage tho

i keep telling myself that i'm wrong about kanYe and that i'll eventually come around to this album's brilliance. but after watching the 'all of the lights' video, hearing those godawful opening lines about MJ and that rocky theme song bullshit, i know im not wrong. who the fuck is this charlatan? dude's aesthetics are just so out of whack

otm

my hate for "All Of The Lights" has really blossomed since it's started getting radio play -- i can't believe he does the "i hold my head/ spent that bread" rhyme twice