the material is probably old news to garage rock aficionados, but the recent where the action is LA nuggets thing is pretty much all killer no filler.
― tylerw, Monday, 24 January 2011 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link
I've got that on order from the library. I borrowed the SF box and felt it was half great stuff and half Grateful Dead hippy wankery which totally harshes my mellow!
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 24 January 2011 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link
less wank on the LA one
― tylerw, Monday, 24 January 2011 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Bump, in light of discussion about how or if Paul's Boutique might be psychedelic.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 14 May 2012 09:16 (eleven years ago) link
I think the argument for paul's boutique as a psychedelic record could be made on the basis of its sheer density (of information/sound) as well as its use of the studio to create 'new' sounds. i'm not reaalllllly interested in making the argument myself cuz i don't have the record at home to listen to. also i think it's general lack of the trappings of psychedelia is going to make the argument hard for hardline psych purist-types to really accept. but as a descriptor of the sound of the album, sure, psychedelic, why not? it definitely plays with yer brain and makes unexpected moves.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
The video for Shadrach certainly is.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
In what way is PB ~not~ psychedelic?
In all the ways I think of psychedelia - that kaleidoscope of sound sensation, the use of music to alter perception, disorient, dazzle and generally melt one's surroundings, shift things sideways - this is perfectly psychedelic. Anyone who thinks it isn't is operating on a pretty restricted definition of psychedelic. But I've been chased off "psychedelic" music for espousing views like this so YMMV.
― They have fangs, They have teeth! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLm2ozVoiyg
― Dick Move's Wardrobe (MaresNest), Monday, 14 May 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
WCC otm. it also makes reference to weed, and reflects a generally psychedelicized consciousness. the only ways in which it might not seem psychedelic are that A) it doesn't owe much of anything, sonically, to the established psychedelic rock genre, and B) it isn't terribly abstract. its consciousness is never allowed to really drift.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Monday, 14 May 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
Rope-A-Dope.... The newest in new..new..new....
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Monday, 14 May 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
True psychedelic music, for me, tends to be a production aesthetic that combines things things that are both incredibly subtle with things that are ridiculously overplayed (usually aspects of the music you wouldn't normally expect to be subtle/overplayed) to create an unbalanced feel. Hallmarks of psychedelic music for me include: simultaneous extreme use of dry sound and wet sound (reverb/echo/delay/phasing/flanging) and interesting use of the stereo field (instruments and the effects printed onto them panned into places where the ear would not naturally expect them to be, or instruments being autopanned all over the place throughout the course of a track). Back-masking instruments and voices also seems to be a popular psychedelic cliche.
A lot of '60s psychedelic music tends to use exotic instruments and interesting use of tape-loops, although these aren't really necessary to create psychedelic music. For me, the ultimate goal is to create something that feels simultaneously natural and unnatural and creates a sense of confusion, whether it's a mild, subtle confusion or taking it to an extreme.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 14 May 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
does it sound like it was made by somebody who was tripping? do tripping ppl like to listen to it?
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
well, like a lot of psychedelic music, paul's boutique sounds like it was made by people who'd spent some time tripping (and were deliberately letting that color their art). tripping people do of course like listening to it, but man, those fuckers will listen to the bathroom fan, so...
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Monday, 14 May 2012 23:25 (eleven years ago) link
ohhhhh yeah, that alan watts "this is IT" scott posted upthread, that's an album.
this elevators track, for me personally, is like THE psychedelic jam. idk how it's viewed by everyone in the whole arc of things, but for me it's at the top of the mountain, in my miiiind
― arby's, Monday, 14 May 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link
oops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdB8gg88BhU
Hmm. I've always felt that psychedelic music was meant to make the listener feel like they were tripping without needing to do any hallucinogenics, myself. Sitting in a confined space listening to psychedelic music while tripping sounds like my idea of a real lousy time!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 14 May 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
I'm listening to Verve's A Storm In Heaven right now, and 'Beautiful Mind' came on. I would call this particular track (indeed, most of the album) 'psychedelic', because its rhythm section is so god damn subtle, but on top of it are just the most heavily-reverbed and effected vocals and guitar lines. Having said that, I'd say 'Make It 'Til Monday' is probably the most 'psychedelic' moment of the album.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 14 May 2012 23:46 (eleven years ago) link