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I liked them crow noises as well. More metally, yeah, but with enough mechanical kick in most of the songs to satisfy, so I say give it a whirl.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I agree about people are saying about Revco, Ministry & Pailhead. I would add that there is some good music on the Lard album "Last Temptation of Reid". I think the song "Forkboy" by Lard is the best thing that Jello Biafra did outside the Dead Kennedys.

The problem with Ministry is that they started making too much money, which probably led to too much drugs.

earlnash, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

were they getting more Metally and less Machiney
They were getting more rock than metal at that point. Psalm 69 really went for a more groovy, rock'n roll feel. It works for the most part, but I can see why it's not everybody's favourite - largely because of that approach, it lacks depth.

Siegbran Hetteson, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

six months pass...
Couldn't help noticing they have a new one out, ANIMOSITITISOMINA (animosity forward and backward without the y's......rathe inexplicably). I really can't imagine it's going to be wildy different from their last three records. Shouldn't they just fuckin' hang it up? Or have I simply just 'grown out' of them?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 15 February 2003 12:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think the answer to both questions is "Yes", Alex. At least that's how I've felt for some time now.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 15 February 2003 22:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

the new one sounds like psalm 69 era ministry its pretty damn good

chaki (chaki), Saturday, 15 February 2003 22:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

two years pass...
What was "the new one" in Feb 2003?

Klaus Darko (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Um.

Dan (LOOK UP TWO POSTS FFS) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Never mind, Adam, Dan. He was only gang-raped by flemish leathermen last night. He'll be back to sorts any hour now.

dali madison's nut (donut), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

oh you mean ANIMOSITITISOMINA?

I thought that was a joke.

Klaus Darko (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Apparently it was a good album!

Dan (Still Not Interested In Them Anymore) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Is it industrial day in Adam's skull? Are the robots in his head going "MESMERIZED BY THE FORCES OF HATE"?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

chugga chugga chugga ANIMOSITISOMINA

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Al is one of these three. You figure out which one.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/leicester/music/2003/05/images/download_150.jpg

dali madison's nut (donut), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Clearly Al is the chick on the right.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link

ihttp://www.photodump.com/direct/maxmal/SonicRanch.jpg

Ministry `06 (with Tommy from Prong and Raven from KJ)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/maxmal/sonicranch2.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link

their last album (Houses of the Molé) is acually pretty good!

latebloomer: Deutsch Bag (latebloomer), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link

"Co-headlining" Ministry/RevCo tour in '06! I am, as they say, so there.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link

prng dood is also in danzig. that guys making bank.

howell huser (chaki), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link

prng dood is also in danzig. that guys making bank.

Tommy Victor did play in Danzig as well, yeah, but I think that was more out of financial necessity.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link

what is this, the start of the big industrial dance revival? I was in a record shop last week flipping through compilations of uh, currently hip - or so they claim - records in certain cities, NYC, London, and the Paris one had stuff like Front 242 on it.

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link

That's the Black Strobe Time Out Paris mix!

Klaus Darko (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link

And the London one sucks balls!

Klaus Darko (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 23:14 (eighteen years ago) link

the London one is TERRIBLE

and I don't get it- I saw Lazarus live over the summer and his set was 100% bouncey electro-house....

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 15 December 2005 00:22 (eighteen years ago) link

"Co-headlining" Ministry/RevCo tour in '06! I am, as they say, so there.

"The REVOLTING COCK."

"Heh heh, yeah, must be some strip show.. y' know.. with strippers."

dali madison's nut (donut), Thursday, 15 December 2005 00:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I guess this is where I say that "Cracking Up" is a grossly underrated later-era Revco song that directly lifts the opening guitar riff from ACR's "Shack Up", loops it, and puts it behind a proto-DFA bass/disco beat combo.. and adds drug samples and Chris Connelly clucking all over it.

dali madison's nut (donut), Thursday, 15 December 2005 00:26 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up is quite loud.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 03:47 (eighteen years ago) link

And says "Fuck" often. We used it to drive out customers at closing time at a Mexican restaurant I worked at once...

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

I'm tempted to do a C/D for 'Filth Pig'. I hated it on release and never bothered checking out any of their stuff after that, but once in a while songs pop up on shuffle and they're usually pretty awesome (e.g. last night "Brick Windows")

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link

twitch's rare mentions in this thread is a crime.

HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

WHERE YOU AT NOW

damo tsu tsuki (r1o natsume), Saturday, 29 August 2009 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link

land of rape and honey 4-EVAH

crappy, use her name (latebloomer), Saturday, 29 August 2009 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link

USE IT A WHILE AND IT'S OVER THE SHOULDER

damo tsu tsuki (r1o natsume), Saturday, 29 August 2009 04:26 (fourteen years ago) link

You know, I actually really liked Rio Grande Blood -- not The Last Sucker quite so much though it was still certainly better than a lot of their mid-period (ie Filth Pig and onward).

Just bought Twitch again and I like it okay. Parts of it didn't age well at all.

Sean Carruthers, Saturday, 29 August 2009 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Again, I wish they'd pulled the plug after Psalm 69.

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 29 August 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

It bears repearing: "Jesus Built My Hotrod" is utterly unstoppable. Play it loud!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 29 August 2009 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link

For whatever reason I cannot stop listening to "Hizbollah" today

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Thursday, 3 September 2009 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

love the snippet of dubbed out accordian sampled in "where you at now"

damo tsu tsuki (r1o natsume), Thursday, 3 September 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Hmmm.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 15:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I wrote about that here. My memories of that 1990 RevCo show are pretty vivid, so I hope the movie focuses on that period and the year or two immediately prior; by the time they played Lollapalooza they'd already pretty much lost it, IMO.

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Lolla 92 was the last time they made any real sense, if only for "N.W.O." and the Bush I samples.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I am in the extreme minority here but, aside from "Burning Inside" and "Faith Collasping", I think they started losing it by A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste. The songs there have a kernel of awesome smothered by repetive bullshit nonsense ("Breathe", "Thieves", "So What", "Test", "Dream Song") or is just flat-out unlistenable ("Cannibal Song", "Never Believe") ans Psalm 69 took everything I hated about AMIATTTT and cranked it up to 100.

Restless Genital Syndrome (HI DERE), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link

thieves =! repetitive bullshit nonsense in any world i live in

bum-sniff deviant (cutty), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I am in the extreme minority here but, aside from "Burning Inside" and "Faith Collasping", I think they started losing it by A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste. The songs there have a kernel of awesome smothered by repetive bullshit nonsense ("Breathe", "Thieves", "So What", "Test", "Dream Song") or is just flat-out unlistenable ("Cannibal Song", "Never Believe") ans Psalm 69 took everything I hated about AMIATTTT and cranked it up to 100.

Yeah, I gotta disagree with pretty much all of this...Psalm 69 was definitely the end of the golden era (though I'll offer another minority opinion, namely that Animositisomina had some very good songs), but there are a couple of solid tracks on it, "Hero" and "Scarecrow" in particular. However, the three singles from Psalm 69 - "NWO," "Jesus Built My Hotrod" and "Just One Fix" - are much, much better in their longer 12"/CD single versions.

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link

I've actually managed to listen to Cannibal Song many, many times. AMIATTTT is peak Ministry imo.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

thieves =! repetitive bullshit nonsense in any world i live in

― bum-sniff deviant (cutty), Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:44 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

1st post of 2010.
say it all really.

mark e, Friday, 1 January 2010 02:10 (fourteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

i just started getting into this band. i think i am in love with this evil.

also, 'Cannibal Song' is fucking awesome. all yall haters are crazy.

Honey, I squirted jizz all over the baby (the table is the table), Monday, 27 September 2010 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I love classic Ministry but think Psalm 69 is extremely overrated. it's good but don't spin it anywhere near as much as Land of Rape and Mind...."Just One Fix" is ace though

u r no man, take the balls (San Te), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 02:27 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_discography#Studio_albums

these sales figures are hilarious

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Ouch. How the hell did they lose momentum so badly between Psalm 69 and Filth Pig? Which is an underrated album. Dammit.

GLOWER METAL (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 08:19 (thirteen years ago) link

what drum machines should they have been using instead? drum machines from the future?

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

uhhhh Land Of Rape And Honey still pummels me in the face with "lame mid-80's drum machines" also 2) that's not the problem and b) RONG

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

i LOVE lame mid 80s drum machines.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

six months pass...

Aww man. RIP. I was actually a fan of Rigor Mortis well before he joined Ministry, dude was pretty speedy.

flared bass (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 23 December 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link

nine months pass...

After not having paid any attention to a Ministry album since Psalm 69 turned me off for good I was mildly curious to hear the new (supposedly last ever) album after reading Al saying that parts of it were inspired by Adrian Sherwood and would put King Tubby to shame on the dub front. Needless to say King Tubby can rest in his grave without having to worry that his techniques have been usurped by Al and Sherwood must be chuckling into his mixing desk at how bad it is. The "dub" bits make No Doubt seem like Prince Far I at his heaviest in comparison. Cod dub!

stirmonster, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link

haha at you falling for it and checking it out!

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link

There is never any compelling reason to listen to anything Ministry released after 1989.

Bitch Fantastic (DJP), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link

yup, what a sucker! at least i maintain my *cough*youthful*cough* optimism / naiveté. xp

stirmonster, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link

put King Tubby to shame on the dub front

this is just a shameful thing for anyone to claim

Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link

Well, King Tubby is dead, so maybe it's just a matter of parsing tense.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Had no idea this was completed or released but man, some harrowing (heroin) stuff:

http://vimeo.com/91347991

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 October 2014 03:07 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

No matter how tempted you are, do not try and read Al's book.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link

Thanks for the warning. I'm always on the lookout for a good trashy drug band bio. What's bad about it?

american tail/american pie (how's life), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, it's bad. I can't even remember enough about it to pick it apart, but it was just...dull.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link

It's dull because it's full of bullshit stories (some of which are patently not true) only told to make Al the greatest bestest drug taker ever. An awful lot of them have something "nearly" happen and there's a preponderance of casual racism, homophobia and rape culture that is sometimes glorified but at a minimum glossed over and excused with another anecdote where he has a token gay or black friend (invariably who he never mentions again).

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link

i kind of almost enjoyed it even though i was fully aware it was BS. his treatise on economics at the end was complete and utter nonsense though; he patently thinks he's a lot smarter than he actually is or maybe he has genuinely fried his brain. i read chris connelly's book immediately after which is way better.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I read Chris Connelly's first but it seemed so skewed to making out Al was a complete dick that I thought I'd read this for balance. Instead it reinforces some of the conclusions you make from the other book.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link

everyone otm

don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

So this week, Ministry (via Cleopatra Records) posted a previously unreleased live album on Bandcamp. It's called Live Necronomicon, and it's about 85 minutes long - there's a double vinyl edition that may already be sold out, and then a digital version. No CDs. Anyway, according to this piece on Slicing Up Eyeballs, it's basically the raw tapes from In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up, with a few Jello Biafra spoken-word bits and a version of Revolting Cocks' "Stainless Steel Providers" excised. Note that In Case... had a lot of studio overdubs, which are absent here, making the music much more overtly metallic and placing the vocals a lot higher in the mix. The set list includes their covers of Public Image Ltd.'s "Public Image" and Skinny Puppy's "Smothered Hope," and versions of Pailhead's "No Bunny" and "Man Should Surrender" and Lard's "The Power of Lard" and "Hellfudge." It's really good, and worth your nine bucks.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 7 July 2017 01:55 (six years ago) link

Chris Connelly lives by me. I see him all the time with his family, in full suburban dad mode.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 July 2017 02:03 (six years ago) link

Search: With Sympathy

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 7 July 2017 13:03 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

Ministry Visual History Book
Ministry: Prescripture Announced Today

http://gallery.mailchimp.com/1d59aca4aeedaab429816159e/images/626b2502-963e-41e2-bd58-3ae80e210582.jpg

Out December 6, Read About the Book via Rolling Stone

Includes 7 inch of "(Every Day Is) Halloween (Acoustic)” featuring Dave Navarro (Jane’s Addiction)

The book features an introduction by Jello Biafra and exclusive quotes from members of Smashing Pumpkins, ZZ Top, Cheap Trick, NWA, Ramones, Nine Inch Nails, Tool, Megadeth, AFI, Slayer, Jane’s Addiction, Rammstein, The Flaming Lips, Devo, Butthole Surfers, Static-X, Anthrax, White Zombie, Death Grips, Bauhaus, Killing Joke, High on Fire, GWAR, Einstürzende Neubauten, Revolting Cocks, and many more!

Various packages available for pre-order include copies autographed by Al Jourgensen and the author, Aaron Tanner and a 7” of the studio version of "(Every Day Is) Halloween (Acoustic)” featuring Dave Navarro (Jane’s Addiction)!

LIMITED-RUN OF 2000
9" X 9" casebound, pages TBD
PUBLISHED: December 6, 2019
PRE-ORDER: September 18, 2019
ISBN: 978-0-578-56212-4

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link

Includes 7 inch of "(Every Day Is) Halloween (Acoustic)” featuring Dave Navarro (Jane’s Addiction)

that's a "no" from me, dawg

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link

^ otm

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link

only $150

stirmonster, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Al finally makes his peace with

stirmonster, Monday, 7 August 2023 22:25 (eight months ago) link

....With Sympathy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU6-uMVECRE

stirmonster, Monday, 7 August 2023 22:26 (eight months ago) link


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