obscure music?

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I'm not aware of a rule that prevents enjoying both B&S or JJ.

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Oilyrags, Friday, 11 April 2008 19:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

I remember when I first got to college I had my case logic of like 200 CDs of the orb and orbital and future sound of london and aphex twin and shit and I would show it to my new undergrad buddies and bet them cash money they'd never heard of any of it. Because they hadn't. I was such a little shit.

El Tomboto, Friday, 11 April 2008 19:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

i'm not aware of that rule either but this person was. that wouldn't make sense to him. they just don't go together.

Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 19:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't really take money though.

El Tomboto, Friday, 11 April 2008 19:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

best Dreamboat Gorilla album

Mr. Que, Friday, 11 April 2008 19:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

"xp. i once got into this whole argument with a Belle and Sebastian devout, who was poking fun at me b/c i like janet jackson. i got upset. i was like, YEAH AND YOU LIKING BELLE AND SEBASTIAN JUST PUTS YOU OVER THE TOP. YOU'RE JUST THE ZANIEST GREATEST PERSON EVER."

The story of this argument is just like the plot to Rocky IV.

Alex in SF, Friday, 11 April 2008 19:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

try too hard = ILM motto. or at lest the English translation from the Latin, prob.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 11 April 2008 19:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

Oilyrags OTM. Telling regular folks I used a Robyn Hitchcock song for my wedding dance will ALWAYS bring about a puzzled or unknowing response.

Surmounter, I don't know what people you hang out with but in my world those sorts of people disappear by the time you're 30.

I like digging for obscure postpunk nuggets but it sure isn't a badge of honor or something to hang over anyone else's head! No one I know in the real world outside of a few fellow music nuts would give a crap!

Mr. Odd, Friday, 11 April 2008 19:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

see, i'm 24. so i have a little ways to go b4 these people disappear.

Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 19:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

lol dude who used robyn hitchcock for a wedding song calls himself mr. odd

El Tomboto, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

Are you implying I'm odd or not odd enough?

Mr. Odd, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

whichever makes me cooler than you I guess

El Tomboto, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

I don't turn 30 until next week

El Tomboto, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

i never like to talk about music w/ppl that aren't really into it. i just say i like stuff like led zeppelin and regular music (which i do), why would you want to try to talk about some weird shit w/ppl that don't care?

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/289964

El Tomboto, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

what do you consider regular music?

Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

jesus Surmounter you're almost twice the age I always assumed you were when reading your posts.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

anyway, there's a lot of good popular music, you could go your whole life listening to just popular music and not get bored there's so much of it. but for those of us who aren't loathe to "pay too much or attention try too hard" it can be pretty rewarding to dig a little deeper.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

sure. and i do dig deeper -- often. i just don't like the rejection of popular music based on its popularity.

Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

(and vice versa)

Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

It makes sense to hunt out obscure things AS POPULAR THINGS ARE IN YOUR FUCKING FACE all the time and seeking them out when they're already there is a bit lame. You can't reject them unless you're a total recluse.

It's nice to hear some really truly awful shit once in a while too.

Mister Craig, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

there's something about clinging to other people's opinions on music that turns me off.

yr not really following yr own admonition here surmounter - who cares why other people listen to any given kind of music

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

It's nice to hear some really truly awful shit once in a while too.

-- Mister Craig, Friday, April 11, 2008 4:16 PM (19 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

^^ going in "truth bombs" thread

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

i don't know that seeking out popular music is lame...

Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

anyway M@tt OTM

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

well, i think there's a big difference between digging deeper for lesser-known music, and using this as some claim to superiority, which is the part i loathe.

Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

what do you consider regular music?

-- Surmounter, Friday, April 11, 2008 8:09 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

like i dunno, regular music that ppl like....like if someone likes classic rock i'd rather just talk about tom petty or aerosmith than be all like DUDE THE SECOND SIR LORD BALTIMORE RECORD IS CREWSH!! DO YOU LIKE DUST??!? or if they like indie music we could talk about like the shins or something instead of whatever wierd shit.

or better yet talk about sports.

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

Aren't YOU using your viewpoint as a "some claim to superiority"?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

well, i think there's a big difference between digging deeper for lesser-known music, and using this as some claim to superiority, which is the part i loathe.

-- Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:22 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

How much of that is actually the case though?

Is it just hipsters generally you dislike?

Mister Craig, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

Matt OTM; talking about sports is always better.

sonderangerbot, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

not really catsup, i think liking something obscure is just as valid as liking something incredibly popular.

yeah i totally agree matt, i veer away from conversations like that too

Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

i don't know if i want to get into a conversation about hipsters just yet

Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

Aren't YOU using your viewpoint as a "some claim to superiority"?

^^^on the real

but I hate sports!

x-post

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

all sports?? no way

Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

It's weird too. In my old town I was an obscurantist, where I live now I'm a pop kid. I put some Deerhoof on a mixtape for a friends's party and he wouldn't put it on out of fear. That was depressing.

Mister Craig, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

i really haven't met anyone with truly "obscure" taste who copped attitude because most of the time they were just excited to tell you about cool music you might not have heard before.

omar little, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

the people who the most attitude are the ones who think that if it isn't well known or they haven't heard it before, there must be a reason for that and that reason must be is the music is lame.

omar little, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

honestly there is not a single pro sport that I give a single shit about. playing sports is one thing, watching other highly paid adults to do it = me not caring.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

I find that while some people who like obscure stuff or have absurd amounts of knowledge often hold it over people, sometimes they are just stating their interests plainly with no subtext and it's the insecurities of the person who doesn't know as much that caused said person to perceive some sort of arrogance. Not always, but sometimes.

dan selzer, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

DICHOTOMY

People with specialist subculture knowledge that I find unpleasant and grating:
bikes store employee types / hardcore cyclists

People with specialist subculture knowledge that I find exciting and friendly:
music nerd types

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

dan selzer otm

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

do you guys think we can beat the "varied taste" post count

El Tomboto, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

yes otm xpost

omar little, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

nah, Surmounter is still too early in his transformation into The Lex to inspire a true clusterfuck thread.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

OTM dan

It's always about insecurities, except when it's one obscure music guy giving tips to another obscure music guy, then it's possible one of them is being obnoxious.

sonderangerbot, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

anyone want to throw in a "people who listen to vinyl are just posers that pretend that they prefer it" opinion to ratchet up the post score?

John Justen, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

the people who the most attitude are the ones who think that if it isn't well known or they haven't heard it before, there must be a reason for that and that reason must be is the music is lame.

-- omar little, Friday, April 11, 2008 8:34 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i really don't know about this

Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

It's nice to hear some really truly awful shit once in a while too.

-- Mister Craig, Friday, April 11, 2008 4:16 PM (19 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

^^ going in "truth bombs" thread

-- Alex in Baltimore, Friday, April 11, 2008 4:18 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

spoken like a true ebony eyez fan

and what, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

I don't loathe people who like Janet Jackson, but I loathe people who loathe people who loathe Janet Jackson.

libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

People who like obscure music are dumb and that's why I only listen to Steely Dan and The Eagles.

ian, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Indie kids" have always been like that, no? 80s Indie Kid: "I love The Cure. You love The Cure, too? Wow . . ."

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 14 April 2008 02:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

But they wouldn't want to say "I love Donny Donald and the AssholesSteve Goldberg and the Arch-Enemies! You've never heard of them? Oh, bummer."

-- St3ve Go1db3rg, Monday, 14 April 2008 02:53 (3 minutes ago) Link

^^^ fixed.

ian, Monday, 14 April 2008 02:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

No Donny Donald and the Assholes are a good band.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

1) KILLING MUSIC
2) Donny Donald and the Assholes
-- Steve Go1dberg (Steve Schneeberg), Monday, July 3, 2006 10:19 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

ian, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

Obviously I didn't just jump on the DD&tAH bandwagon.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

oh my god someone please get to EXCELSIOR thread quick with the Donny Donald...

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

how is their denny lethargy collab

xpost

electricsound, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

Will someone more sober than I am please start a poll for Donny Donald & the Assholes. Please.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

First to write an essay regarding Sha Na Na comparisons to DD&TAH wins.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

I ran into this dude who I hate for various reasons the other week and he was drunk and starting prattling on about all these bands he's going to be seeing. and he said 'have you ever heard of explosions in the sky?'. and I said 'yeah from that football movie soundtrack'.

wilter, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

Weren't DD&TAH once produced by Bruce Dunslap, the same guy who produced the legendary Dreamboat Gorilla LP "Long Way To The Top" from 1980?

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

ILX BREATHALYZER FAILURE BEEP BEEP YR COMPUTER WILL BE LOCKING UP IN 5 SECONDS

libcrypt, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, he was at the controls on their eponymous EP in '87. It's out of print but I have a vinyl copy from the first run. "Reese's Peanut Butter Cups" is such a classic tune. Let's hold hands and listen to it.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

Still waiting to see the reunion of Steve G01dberg and the Lesser Assholes.

libcrypt, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

i have more respect for people who like good popular music than people who like bullshit obscure music. for example, i'd prefer someone's favorite artists to be the Beatles, Bob Marley, Michael Jackson, and Jay-Z than say any number of nonsense indie bands.

pipecock, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

i have more respect for people who like good popular music than people who like bullshit obscure music.

challenging opinions

electricsound, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

lol

wilter, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Reese's Peanut Butter Cups" rules. Have you got the 12" extended remix?

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

this thread was great for about the first 50 posts but then it got boring

strgn, Monday, 14 April 2008 04:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

matt h. and surmounter otm in those first 50

strgn, Monday, 14 April 2008 04:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

thank you, good night

strgn, Monday, 14 April 2008 04:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

xpost "m the g is an idiot" should quickly replace it.

Sleepytime Gorilla Museum is one of my favorite bands, not because they are obscure, but because they are AWESOME.

most accurate statement on ilx ever.

-- m the g, Sunday, 13 April 2008 21:27 (Yesterday)

xpost "m the g is an idiot" should quickly replace it.

-- brightscreamer, Monday, 14 April 2008 01:42 (11 h

ka-pow! you wound me! care to elaborate, or is this just a half-arsed zing fling?

m the g, Monday, 14 April 2008 13:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

never mind. my cack-handed copying and pasting kind of proved your point for you.

m the g, Monday, 14 April 2008 13:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

"was there a botoh dancer at the show you're thinking of? They did a tour a few years ago that was 100% improvised with a dude in a cage."

Nobody in a cage that I remember, but it's been a couple of years and I am reasonably sure that I was drunk. About the only mental image I can pull is a black woman playing keyboards.

By now I kind of hope that it was a prank pulled by the band, but at the time I remember being fairly annoyed. "I AM A MEMBER OF THE LOCAL PRESS! YOU CANNOT DO THIS TO ME!"

I do remember that they'd sent me a promo before the show, and that the promo was pretty good. I think I'll go see if I can find them again.

I eat cannibals, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 18:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

Also Goldberg's pretty much right, aside from the (previously noted) ascribing it as a current phenomenon. But it's kind of weird for me to be around people like that who are WAY into such a tiny slice of music. Like, you know every word on the Arcade Fire album and want to talk about hidden meanings? But you can't talk about, I dunno, Talking Heads, and you get freaked out by the Cambodia Rocks albums? That just seems weird to me, though I understand that I've got a pretty terrible sample set for what's normal regarding music listening.

I eat cannibals, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 18:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

that is a different sleepytime gorilla museum (?!) then, because they have no keyboard player, and the only woman in the band is Carla Kihlsted, who plays violin.

John Justen, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

ctrl-f "challenging"

The Reverend, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:42 (6 years ago) Permalink


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