You can get lots of tasteless beer in Finland too, though it isn't American brands rather than local ones. But I don't think they're very far away from American beer.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 25 May 2008 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link
prod
― Jarlrmai, Sunday, 25 May 2008 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link
In Communist Europe all waiters are given company limousines and paid in Krugerrands.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 25 May 2008 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Dave Matthews Band?
― G00blar, Sunday, 25 May 2008 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Shooting a couple of dozen of your school chums has never really crossed over to this side of the pond.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 25 May 2008 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link
wikipedia:
The Fountainhead eventually became a worldwide success ... Atlas Shrugged ... went on to become an international bestseller
http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/worldwide/story/0,9959,615157,00.html
Next!
― gabbneb, Sunday, 25 May 2008 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link
gun shows
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Houston_Gun_Show_at_the_George_R._Brown_Convention_Center.jpg/800px-Houston_Gun_Show_at_the_George_R._Brown_Convention_Center.jpg http://www.novatownhall.com/blog/graphics/gun_show_chantilly_lg.jpg http://whtm.acc-tv.com/images/whtm/news/vidcap_billboard0423.jpg
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 25 May 2008 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link
What do you mean by sport? Okay, maybe American football isn't that popular outside USA, but even a place like Finland has an American football league, as small as it may be.
Your original post said that Ayn Rand hadn't "made a big impact outside the US", not that she was completely unknown outside of the USA. I'm not denying that American Football might have a fringe following in other countries, but compared to the spread of rock 'n' roll, coke 'n' pepsi, jeans, etc. you can't really say it's taken the world by storm.
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Sunday, 25 May 2008 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link
What does "international bestseller" mean? Because I've studied philosophy and the social sciences, and I've never heard any mention of Ayn Rand from others than Americans.
(x-post)
Okay, fair enough.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 25 May 2008 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Except that someone in Finland did just that last autumn. I'm hoping it was a singular case and not the beginning of a trend.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 25 May 2008 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link
my impression of ayn rand is that she made kind of a splash internationally at the time, but only in the u.s. did she really inspire several generations of libertarian asshattery.
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 25 May 2008 22:59 (fifteen years ago) link
leaf peeping?
― aimurchie, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe it's because she's not a philosopher, just a shitty semi-contemporary novelist, and English is not the native language of your country
― gabbneb, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
I think libertarinism in general is quite unpopular in Europe at least.
(xx-post)
― Tuomas, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
also as should be obvious, that list of 'most popular books in america' consists primarily of books that for one reason or another have reached a wide audience of relatively youthful readers and/or have a lot of fanboys/girls
― gabbneb, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Ayn Rand has exported outside of US Borders as far as Canada. See: The lyrics of Rush.
Do other countries have the same insanely poorly planned suburbs the US does where there are no sidewalks and you have to drive 10 miles to get to the nearest grocery store?
― filthy dylan, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, but in America she seems to have lots of followers who dig her because of her philosophical ideas and not her literary value. And lots of other American novels and philosophy have been translated to Finnish (as well as other European languages, of course) and have had a big impact here.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.coastaltown.nildram.co.uk/jim/gun_show_chantilly_lgw.jpg
― Jarlrmai, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link
No sidewalks? Where are you supposed to walk?
― Tuomas, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, but in America she seems to have lots of followers who dig her because of her philosophical ideas and not her literary value.
if you did a poll in America checking her name recognition, you'd probably get less than 35%. the number of people who are really into her 'philosophy' is dwarfed by the number of people who like her books as 'literature' or simply because it makes them feel good about being narcissistic.
― gabbneb, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link
You can't. When I was a kid I would have to walk over people's front lawns to get to the nearest store as cars honked at me and swerved out of the way. This helps explain the obesity problem.
― filthy dylan, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Seriously?! That sounds absurd.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Okay, whatever, my point was that she seems to be an influential writer (whether as an novelist or as a philosopher) in the US (and maybe other English-speaking countries) who is virtually unknown in Continental Europe.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link
americans think sidewalks are for scary people who can't even afford to ride the bus. there was some suburb (in virginia, i think) that passed an ordinance a few years ago requiring sidewalks be installed in all these subdivisions that didn't have them (because kids were getting hit by cars or something), and the people in the subdivisions flipped the fuck out at the thought of strangers being able to walk past their homes. (then they probably all went to the next gun show to stock up.)
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link
― gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link
deep fried twinkies
^^^ not sure that's even out of MN yet, to be honest
xpost:
i mean, seriously, for your average suburban american, the idea of having to walk anywhere is threatening and bizarre. that's why half of suburbia is parking lots.
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.egge.net/~savory/friedmars.jpg
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link
decent mexican food
― gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link
jokes about canada
ignoring soccer
― gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
creationist theme parks
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
"tossing the pigskin"
― gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link
men's league softball
Seems like the suburbian American idea of public and private space is very different from the European one. No wonder suburban kids in the US hang out in malls, if they don't even have sidewalks to loiter on.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link
There aren't that many real suburbs in the US ... people just call anything that's not a city "the suburbs". I grew up in the suburbs of NYC and there are sidewalks, trains, buses, etc.
Most places with no sidewalks, etc., are exurban or rural kinda places, and it's not too surprising that they aren't all that well developed.
― burt_stanton, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link
keg parties in cornfields/gravel pits (<---- I just sort of assumed that Euros don't have kegs party and that everyone else is too poor or something)
― gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link
but you're just wrong. yes, she has influenced a small number of people who happen to have been important in government, on the right-wing side, but she is a very very tiny element in american culture writ large.
― gabbneb, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:17 (fifteen years ago) link
My mom's never really made much of an impact outside of the U.S.
― G00blar, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean, seriously, for your average suburban american, the idea of having to walk anywhere is threatening and bizarre.
I realise this is a little hyperbolic but it is pretty freaking sad, as well. Aussies are as lazy as the next bastard and we have some car congestion probs too, but there's as big a movement of ppl getting about on foot, bikes, trams, etc.
The idea that public transport and walking is strictly for poor/scary/homeless people is just... I don't know what to say.
― Trayce, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link
clear pie
― jhøshea, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link
freedom
grits
― gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link
true grit
― gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
the balls to stand up to a dictator
Hershey's chocolate
― G00blar, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
What the hell are grits, anyway? There are aspects of American culture that have never been imported to other parts of AMerica
― burt_stanton, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
corn mazes
― gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link
xp that was not an answer to your question
*thing
Ha, yeah, my neighbourhood coffee shop in Worcester makes a maple cappuccino with Vermont maple syrup. It's sort of gross tbh but I admire the spirit.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:48 (seven years ago) link
i had real maple syrup growing up in northeast ohio. it's pretty good syrup here. most of this part of the state is wooded so it is readily available. i also liked the fake stuff growing up too.
i lived in new england for 9 years and real vermont syrup was everywhere, it was great. but even diners in new england often use "pancake syrup"
― marcos, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:49 (seven years ago) link
you can get maple syrup in pretty much any big french or english supermarket. bordeaux even has a skate shop called "sirop d'erable" - https://www.yelp.de/biz/sirop-d-erable-bordeaux
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:18 (seven years ago) link
also the majority of maple syrup is produced in canada
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link
i almost feel like fake syrup goes best with fake waffles. eggos + corn syrup just makes more sense.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link
"but even diners in new england often use "pancake syrup"
in the diner i go to in town you have to ask for the "real" syrup. costs extra.
all the good stuff that i buy here at the supermarket is local mass/vermont stuff. it's awesome.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link
i would take you guys to all these sugar house breakfasts if you visited. yuuuuuuuum.
https://70c97aaea282a207d81b-f84eee09323602e80e90b9678fa5fc9b.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Sugarhouse.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:28 (seven years ago) link
maple syrup on snow. is that a thing in europe yet?
https://scontent.fbed1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11066788_10206041636937595_3606791368384939557_n.jpg?oh=cb7cb2a36af572de6376b754a021764c&oe=59093F51
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:31 (seven years ago) link
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, January 17, 2017 3:25 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
right. it is actually hard to find real VT or other US maple syrup in regular grocery stores. even in whole foods it's mostly canadian stuff
― marcos, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:31 (seven years ago) link
quebec mafia iirc
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:36 (seven years ago) link
not that hard in nyc, so i guess im glad i didnt move
maple syrup > rent
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:43 (seven years ago) link
yeah, big syrup is no joke.
http://america.aljazeera.com/multimedia/2015/4/canada-syrup-cartel.html
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:44 (seven years ago) link
"Of all the states, Vermont has the largest appetite, with the average resident consuming almost 11 pounds of maple syrup per year. The national average is significantly less, almost registering half a pound."
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:49 (seven years ago) link
Obsessed w maple syrup. Love it with yoghurt. Lol
― nathom, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:07 (seven years ago) link
it's so good on oatmeal. or any hot cereal.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:32 (seven years ago) link
this is a reverse question. every five years or so someone on ilm reminds me that grime existed. it only existed in the states for about five minutes when people bought a dizzee rascal album (mostly the college crowd i don't know how many hip hop fans bought it) and played it twice. kinda like the streets. everyone here was really just waiting for a new prodigy album to buy. anyway, is it hyper-regional now or is grime a thing anywhere outside the u.k.?
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 January 2017 14:23 (seven years ago) link
it's arguably more popular now in the US than it ever has been!
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/may/31/british-mcs-stormzy-jammz-little-simz-krept-konan-novelisthttp://www.nme.com/blogs/festivals-blog/grime-invasion-of-america-769756
etc
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:07 (seven years ago) link
Pro-life terrorism.
― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:31 (seven years ago) link
i will take your word for it, tracer hand. i know there are people who still like drum & bass in the states. i don't know who they are, but i'm pretty sure they exist.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:26 (seven years ago) link
at least 4 college radio stations across 3 different cities i've lived in all have/had drum & bass hours on the schedule
― marcos, Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link
(u.s. cities obv)
The very first episode of Spooks (Not called Spooks in the U.S.) that I watched was about anti-abortion bombings. But, to be fair, the anti-abortion Brits were led by an American.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:31 (seven years ago) link
Talk about far-fetched.
― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:34 (seven years ago) link
otm. this is strictly a US cultural phenomenon. and in typically US fashion, there are plenty of people who make money off it.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:36 (seven years ago) link
beloved los angeles college radio station kcrw used to go hard on jungle/dnb nights in the 90s
best dj sets i heard at that time because vancouver was musically lagging by a decade at that point
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:41 (seven years ago) link
scott i share your skepta-cism
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 19 January 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link
There's an actual root beer thread but this is where we talked about root beer last month so eh.
I bought a fizzy drink in the local Chinese supermarket, not knowing what it was, but the can looked kind of Dr Pepper-like so I figured why not. Opened it, familiar smell, kind of like Germolene... wait, didn't I have a drink which tasted of Germolene last month too?
Oh yes. I appear to be drinking Chinese root beer, more or less. https://starkravingblog.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/wonderful-world-of-root-beer-watsons.html
(My can just says 沙示, but even if it had said Sarsae I don't think I'd have made the connection to Sarsaparilla, though it might have made me think of Sarson's vinegar which might have dissuaded me from buying it...)
― a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 16 February 2017 21:14 (seven years ago) link
I was in China for ten years before I tried Sarsae. It's like rubbish watered down root beer. I did live on Watson's soda water for a year or two though. I never did get over the absurdity of the only manufacturer of American-style soft drinks being the nation's biggest drugstore chain.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 16 February 2017 21:40 (seven years ago) link