"Starship Troopers" - Verhoeven is a mad genius!

"if anything i think VERHOEVEN"

this was meant to answer the comment about the producers. but i typed "like" instead. sorry.

verhooeven has always been, imo, a heavyhanded director who has gotten way more positive press than he deserves - imo, the films that 'made' his reputation do not hold up on later viewing - feel its like early Tony Scott in Hunger era, something looks cool, stylish, feels smart but when you look back with the unfortunate hindsight of later works makes you wonder why you bothered in the first place.

What, Top Gun wasn't a masterpiece? Surely you jest!

Starship Troopers is incredibly entertaining, but all the "classic" talk could kill its enjoyability by implying we should respect the film.

Jake Busey on neon violin! Huzzah!

well, maybe or maybe not, but interviews with the filmmakers from before and after the movie was released make it clear that they intended on satirizing fascism with the movie.

robocop and starship troopers---hit! showgirls and hollow man---steeerike!

i'm sure not i know what you mean. the only film i can even imagine conforming to this notion is "showgirls."

what do you mean by a "bad" movie? most of his movies are--if nothing else (and never nothing else)--very well put-together. "showgirls" included.

things i like in starship trooper: it is based on the premise that the entire human race = utterly dim but underwear-model gorgeous gay men, some of them by chance in girl's bodies
-- mark s (mar...), November 4th, 2002 7:34 AM.

Yes but Mark, it is set in the FUTURE. Surely this is what we will evolve to?
-- N. (nickdastoo...), November 4th, 2002 7:35 AM.

i am evolving into the brainbug
-- mark s (mar...), November 4th, 2002 7:46 AM

when the movie came out he thought it was very accurate in it's portrayal of how life in the military was and how it portrayed the military mindest. he also perfectly understood what the film was satirizing as well.

Which led to my two word review: Aliens 90210

Look closer. The film suggests the bugs DID do it, but only as a defensive move against the humans invading their space. The implication being that the humans are the true evil imperialistic force in the universe.

I here it did far better on this side of the Atlantic where it touched nerves with people and stuff, while in America it was seen as film about people being eaten by bugs.

that's like a description of my perfect movie

actually amateurist, i would be interested in hearing why you think his films are well made, i find that (based on other films you like) to be a bit surprising.

moley is right, though! that's what it is!

Why is it the US military? The US military is actually extremely diverse. Why would the US military be any more or less fascist than the military of any other country. Why is it Western foreign policy? What about what we were doing in 1997 bore any resemblance to the action in Starship Troopers? I certainly didn't hear about any boots-on-the-ground scorched-earth invasion operations in the Balkans.

At any rate, read one thread before you post self-congratulatory bullshit repeating what 90 other posters have already said better, then you don't get called a nincompoop. It's pretty simple.

Is it worth it?

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/6392/giantrobottattoo7dt.th.gif

Can anybody recommend any of Verhoeven's pre-Robocop work that's actually worth tracking down? (assuming it's available)

Flesh and Blood is pretty brilliant.

Can anybody recommend any of Verhoeven's pre-Robocop work that's actually worth tracking down? (assuming it's available)

Just about all of his early Dutch films are worthwhile. Spetters, Soldier Of Orange, and The 4th Man are essential

Verhoeven is directing the sequel to Thomas Crown Affair

Met Het Oog Op Morgen

good lord, they now have dutch morning zoos

hollow man is more interesting when you look at it strictly as a take on what horrible things a pretty typical asshole might do if given a chance to do them without consequence, and less as a "mad psycho scientist run amok" thing. but it's still a bad flick.

Jake Busey on neon violin! Huzzah!

-- Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 29 May 2004 15:22 (3 years ago) Link

starship troopers 3: marauder

There was a Starship Troopers 2?

lol "This movie sucks. Would you like to know more?"

still having neumeier writing + directing is a good look

i heard there's a musical sequence in this one! wtf is up that

ledge otm, i accidentally caught the beginning of ST2 on telly recently and was all WTF? It was shit, much like this one will be prob

what about tom of finland, reclaiming fascist aesthetics, when he was actually under the threat of death by fascists?

can you start a thread about this?

-----always tackling the big issues

http://io9.com/5550437/heinlein-slammed-fans-who-didnt-help-with-the-war-effort

what shocking news

just throwing it up there