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a worldwide number 1 hit if ever there was one

always weirded out when people use this line to praise a song. so it's about as good as "the time (dirty bit)", then.

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Friday, 21 January 2011 17:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

anyway re: adele, i wrote this at the jukebox, but i was totally shocked by "rolling in the deep" - i'd hated everything i heard off her first album, so to hear her do something w/genuine gravitas and personality was a surprise. what happened to her in those two years?

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Friday, 21 January 2011 17:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

(i don't think it's quite amazing, though - still a bit reverent to its influences)

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Friday, 21 January 2011 17:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah well adele was so clearly part of the a&r rush to replace winehouse before she ODed so its fair to assume that her first album might have been somewhat manhandled into shape whereas this one has the legitimation of **big name producer** rick rubin and I think that things like that tend to grant ppl a little more autonomy maybe. i mean obv this is speculation.

plax (ico), Friday, 21 January 2011 20:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

xp yeah 'classic' isn't a word i'd bandy about willy nilly but that's what comes to mind to me too re: Someone Like You.
writing credits are as follows:
very much the Florence vibe; writer shows up with bits/ideas/bare bones, Epworth et al finish em off, take a half/third of the publishing. Adele herself has said the writing is "60%" hers.

piscesx, Friday, 21 January 2011 20:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

also a useful reminder not to write off artists based on debuts made when they were a teenager, even if the hype and press line are tedious - certainly i don't expect songwritery artists (which adele is, i guess) to find their voice at that stage, and if they do then they're a rare exception


lex diamonds (lex pretend), Friday, 21 January 2011 20:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

what age is this chick??

plax (ico), Friday, 21 January 2011 20:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

the clue is in the album titles - i know, such a lame thing to do ONCE let alone twice

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Friday, 21 January 2011 20:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

(i don't think it's quite amazing, though - still a bit reverent to its influences)

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i really like the song, but on a formal level, i'd state this differently. i think the "old motown" crowd would have had a little more play and spikiness in the backing. as it is this chugs along in a straightforward rock kind of way. i think if they had been reverent on that level it would sound less retro, if that makes sense. it's kind of white-stripes-y

goole, Friday, 21 January 2011 20:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

i'd go with that - i was referring more to her vocal being reverent. i really like the arrangement, though.

also i've just listened to "someone like you" and...not feeling it, it's leaving me as cold/bored as the stuff off the first album. brit school ersatz soul, you are never too far away :(

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Friday, 21 January 2011 20:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

oh shes my age

plax (ico), Friday, 21 January 2011 20:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

She's 22.

I definitely agree she has grown a whole lot since her first album (though there were a few choice songs on that one - "Right As Rain," "Cold Shoulder,"). 21 has some truly remarkable moments - I'd consider "Rolling in the Deep" a classic already, and other standouts for me "Set Fire To Rain," "He Won't Go," the bridge in "Rumor Has It" (incredible). She does have a tendency towards the maudlin and some of the songs are over-arranged, but yeah - I love how she melds all of these influences that I wouldn't necessarily like on their own - rockabilly, there's a definite classic rock influence on some tracks. Such a great voice too, obviously

The Brainwasher, Friday, 21 January 2011 20:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah Rumour Has It is a barnstormer. dunno much about your man Ryan Tedder but hats off to him for his studio trickery anyway.

piscesx, Friday, 21 January 2011 20:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

Someone Like You is in the itunes Top 20 and it's only an album track so far. The people have spoken! Currently the album is outselling the rest of the UK album chart combined. Hats off madame!

piscesx, Thursday, 27 January 2011 18:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

okay her cover of "Lovesong" is great

DJP, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 16:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

Thought she did an amazing job on "Someone Like You" at last night's Brits. Clearly a song with direct personal resonance, as she was on the brink of tears by the end of it.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 11:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

"someone like you" has returned me to my original standpoint that she's a hack and a journeywoman. so dull.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 12:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

The song is OK-to-good, but I thought the performance was outstanding, and highly affecting.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 14:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

No one with a voice that good can really be considered a hack, but she's just a bit... boring.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 14:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

bad thread

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for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 14:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

20/02/2011 - Adele equals Beatles’ record to lead Official Charts Brits Bonanza

Adele’s Someone Like You rockets up the Official Singles Chart from last week’s number 47 to become the UK’s new number one after her powerful live television performance at last Tuesday’s Brit Awards, while her current album 21 heads the Official Albums Chart for a fourth week, the Official Charts Company announces today.

Not content with achieving the chart double of simultaneous number ones in the nation’s Official Singles and Official Albums charts, the twenty-two-year-old artist boasts two more Top 5 hits this week; her single Rolling In The Deep and her debut album 19 are each at number four in their respective charts.

Adele is the first living artist to achieve the feat of two Top 5 hits in both the Official Singles Chart and the Official Albums Chart simultaneously since The Beatles back in January 1964 when their singles I Want To Hold Your Hand and She Loves You were numbers two and five and their albums With The Beatles and Please Please Me were numbers one and two.

Adele’s phenomenal achievement spearheads a huge surge in sales for all the artists who won or performed at the Brit Awards 2011. Total album sales for Brits’ artists were up 70% week on week with Laura Marling’s album I Speak Because I Can recording the biggest chart leap from last week’s number 80 to this week’s number 21.

danzig, Sunday, 20 February 2011 19:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

Finally listening to 21. I like her, but I really wasn't in a hurry to hear it I guess. Too bad, because this is great!

she's a hack and a journeywoman

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 24 February 2011 19:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

She's no hack. Someone Like You is thumpingly predictable - seemingly designed for X-Factor cover versions - which makes the Brits performance all the more impressive.

DL, Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

okay her cover of "Lovesong" is great

It is really good, I was wondering whether you would like it or not.

Peyton Flanders (Nicole), Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

Tiring though it is to be typing the words "Nabisco OTM" once again, this first para sums up exactly how I felt about the Someone Like You performance:

Sometimes you only really start appreciating someone like Adele when she’s singing a bad song. There’s some workmanlike, blandly tasteful arrangement lolling behind her like a boiled potato; the lyrics have gone all banal; the string section seems to be courting viewers of whichever network-TV drama needs to score a pensive montage ... and yet the main thing you’re thinking is: Who broke Adele’s heart, and why would they do that, and can they not hear how marvelous she is?

DL, Friday, 25 February 2011 18:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

Full review here:

DL, Friday, 25 February 2011 18:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

Why is everyone talking about how it's intentionally constructed for future television use? The songs sound pretty honest to me. I'm I just not as cynical as I used to be?

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 25 February 2011 19:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

There's something very generic about the chord changes and arrangement of Someone Like You - it seems calculated and I think the honesty is all in the voice, ie in spite of the song rather than because of it. But then these days it's pretty hard to write a straightforward big-sounding piano ballad that doesn't sound like the closing scenes of Grey's Anatomy.

I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Friday, 25 February 2011 19:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

i fuck w/ this -- the world needs a good dramatic piano ballad every once in a while

little humma boy (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 04:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

her voice gets kinda weird tho when she goes into her upper registers

little humma boy (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 04:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

i loved "chasing pavements" too

little humma boy (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 04:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

i really like rolling in the deep

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 25 March 2011 23:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

i really like rolling balls deep

a SB-in' artist that been in the game for a minute (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 March 2011 00:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

Snrub otm, it's a great single! don't really care for anything else i've heard, but i haven't heard all of 21 yet

her Lovesong cover is an abortion btw, DJP u mad

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Saturday, 26 March 2011 01:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah, the cover of lovesong is awful, easily the worst track on 21.

brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 26 March 2011 03:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

i mean, it's better than the 311 version, at least, though...

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Monday, 28 March 2011 15:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

What is with you people over there:

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 April 2011 17:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Adele is some hot garbage son.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

crazy how massive she is now

just sayin, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

lol fat joek

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I kind of despise this woman so it rather irritates me how much I love 'Rolling in the Deep' and 'Set Fire to the Rain'. Thankfully 'Someone Like You' is utter tosh!

uberweiss, Sunday, 8 May 2011 10:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

True they are better songs. Can't stand her voice though. I just can't understand why she is so popular. Her image seems to appeal to people this kind of 'realness'. The matey, realness in interviews is such a turn off.

mmmm, Sunday, 8 May 2011 11:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Thats a great read.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 14:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

I would love it if no one ever used the term "sell-out" to earnestly describe a professional musician ever again.

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 14:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

(to follow on from Maura's point)

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 14:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

i'm not really under the impression her diyness or whatever is going to be pushed here, "discount" tickets were for $200 in ny

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 14:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

("discount" being through whatever service my benefits provider provides which isn't usually all that much)

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 14:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

Adele never makes any claims to being DIY or having low ticket prices so I don't know what you mean there.

Maura is overstating the Gaga comparison (though it nicely provides her piece with a relevant angle.) eg.

funny, given Lady Gaga's constant assertions that she, too, doesn't lipsync, and writes her own material.

Yet in the Independent piece lip-synching and songwriting are never mentioned and the only contrast made with Gaga is her extreme ubiquity.This interview was covered in the Mail who chose to present a similar set of quotes to elaborate about Adele's anxiety attacks and self-image problems. I suspect this is actually the most common narrative for Adele, rather than as the anti-Gaga/women in music interpretation.

Anyway, I don't really see what Maura is so butthurt at Adele about. It's not even clear if the original Q interview presents these quotes as Adele's "rules". I haven't read the Q interview but most likely these are just random quotes which have been summarized this way by the writer at the Indie. Maura buys the idea that there's some kind of self-righteous personal manifesto at work, which allows for the accusations of supposed hypocrisy ("is autotune OK if you only use it during the marketing of your music?...Is appearing on TV shows for a straight week and taping an episode of Unplugged OK because it's "about the music").

everything, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 17:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

I think you're mistaking what Maura thinks about Adele directly with what she sees as the rhetoric around her -- which, in fact, dovetails completely with your own point!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 18:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

in terms of ~feel~, sonic arc etc. this song reminds me a bit of leona lewis's "run" cover. except that was great and this is rather mediocre :\

a little too on the nose too, like damn after all these years you are still singing about the same shit in a hardly-different-at-all perspective

dyl, Thursday, 29 October 2015 15:04 (1 month ago) Permalink

I don't find her an exciting artist myself qua music, but the massive, massive popularity of emotional songs about resignation, regret, loss, nostalgia and guilt interests me because I work on emotion and affect and melancholy in my scholarly other life, and when you have someone completely smashing the sales figures with work that is so much about wallowing in negative emotions that is really interesting even if she's not making "interesting music" (to me)- her fame x her art as an equation is interesting even if the art isn't, because it suggests a weird groundswell of collective feeling surfing on the appoggiatura and getting pleasure out of suffering

the tune was space, Thursday, 29 October 2015 16:49 (1 month ago) Permalink

of course if it was my job to review and write about pop music and I lived in the city where her PR team / machine was grinding her in my face relentlessly I would really have no time for her shit at all so i feel u lex :)

the tune was space, Thursday, 29 October 2015 17:02 (1 month ago) Permalink

her PR team doesn't have to work too hard tbh

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 29 October 2015 17:03 (1 month ago) Permalink

I like the idea of hello being a reply to hotline bling...

niels, Thursday, 29 October 2015 22:46 (1 month ago) Permalink

supposedly it sounds like 70s soft rock!

hello rumer.

mark e, Thursday, 29 October 2015 22:49 (1 month ago) Permalink

this almost makes the song acceptable

expertly crafted referential display name (Jordan), Friday, 30 October 2015 20:18 (1 month ago) Permalink

this song is boring & terrible

welltris (crüt), Friday, 6 November 2015 14:44 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

I was walking down our alley and we passed a sorority house where what sounded like ten girls were singing along at the top of their lungs and when they hit the chorus, ouchhhhhhhh. Terrifying!

the tune was space, Friday, 6 November 2015 15:02 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

this one sounds to me a bit like that big ballad on the brandon flowers album (which in a way makes sense as reichtshaid produced the studio version)

art baengels (monotony), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 12:15 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

could do with a bit of a donk on it though. there's a shellback song on the album, i'm intrigued by that at least

art baengels (monotony), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 12:16 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

new song is just .. there.

piscesx, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:54 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

The album is also just...there.

Greer, Thursday, 19 November 2015 15:31 (1 week ago) Permalink

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