Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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some artist tag crapness tho

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

the radio is fun for discovering things totally insane and cheesy

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

Oh wow the quality is actually pretty good.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

The radio thing is indeed cool. I'm trying to get it to find me some techno from the 50s.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

the quality is good, the range not so much, but this could well prove useful.

country matters, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

Presumably the range will increase as they agree deals with more record companies? It seems fine for major label stuff and a quick search for eg Kompakt pulls up a lot.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

does it pass the melt banana test?

koogs, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

the range seems identical to what's on 7digital (and therefore itunes i think). eg they have trina's first and third albums but inexplicably not her second or fourth. i dunno how much use i'll have for spotify but kudos for how well it works, the quality of the tracks etc - the tags need ironing out but i'm sure they'll do this in time.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

actually it'll be most useful for stuff like the goldfrapp album this year - i didn't really expect to love it but i wanted to hear it, so obv i wouldn't buy it but couldn't be arsed blagging it. that's a ton of consumer laziness in there.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

oh god i should've said i was american! fuck. could've got access to all the hip-hop and r&b which never makes it over to this godforsaken, miserable island.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 21:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

Do they have a license for the US now? I don't think they did a couple of weeks ago...

Four MB albums, Deano: Teeny Shiny, Bambi's Dilemma, Charlie and Scratch or Stitch.

Stevie T, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 21:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

does not work in australia yet

Suggesteban Buttez (jabba hands), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 22:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

Just searched for The Recession and that shows up in its entirety, and it hasn't been released here at all right?

It's really good for the one-album playback when you've no idea if you'll like it or not and can't be arsed downloading.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

yeah i'm basically going through albums i've been wondering about checking out but didn't have the hd space for.

king lame (c sharp major), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

no the recession was released here, but the label didn't bother telling the pr - she only realised when she looked on amazon and found it had been there for a fortnight

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

"80s funk house disco" radio suggests Jive Bunny and the Mastermixers!

ailsa, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

> Four MB albums, Deano

thanks. we don't have any, amazon.co.uk mp3 store has scratch n stitch and a couple of tracks from compilations, emusic had a lot... all these people seem to be getting their info from the same places though, they all make the same mistakes (search for broadcast on amazon - details are about duophonic / warp broadcast but the listed albums aren't)

koogs, Thursday, 4 December 2008 09:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

One detail I like: when it gets to the end of what I've queued up, it just continues with the current album without me needing to ask it to. (I suppose I can see how someone might not like this, though.)

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 4 December 2008 19:48 (7 years ago) Permalink

Finally got round to sorting scrobbling for this (there's a windows messenger box ticked by default in the last.fm client that somehow stops Scrobblify from working). So far I'm really liking Spotify - handy for hearng stuff you randomly think on that you haven't got in your library or for legal trying before you buy. The adverts don't annoy me in the slightest.

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 22:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

fails Boredoms test :(

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

anyone got a spotfiy INVITE?

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

If not, try the "oooh ask me please!" option on the website ("Get started" -> email in "Not invited?" field). Took about five days for me, was surprised to get it at all actually.

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

jordan, webmail me an email address to send an invite to.

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

didn't get asked for an invite here, just got straight in

stet, Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

This is amazing! You type in what you want to listen to, and then you are listening to it. all this needs is to work on an iphone, and then i'll buy an iphone, and then i will have achieved bliss.

Slumpman, Sunday, 7 December 2008 12:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

Mine appears to have made it through an album without giving me any adverts. Maybe they've bumped me up to a pro account without realising it.

Matt DC, Sunday, 14 December 2008 14:49 (7 years ago) Permalink

you can now scrobble to last.fm from within spotify (it's in 'preferences')

braveclub, Sunday, 21 December 2008 12:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

That's handy, saves me running that scrobblify thing at the same time.

Spotify lists 'The Prodigy' as 'Prodigy' and makes last.fm think this guy sings Smack My Bitch Up and Out of Space

dj onimotian (onimo), Sunday, 21 December 2008 13:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

can someone please send me an invite?

thanks!!

kaiser, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

Er....

https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

Think there's still a waiting list though.

<3 this service btw.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

Got in straight away with the link I posted.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

Aha they've obviously opened it up!

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

Downside is loads more ads (I've heard two during the same album), but you can hear them coming after a while and tune out. Still great.

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

thanks Chewshabadoo but I need an invitation code.

Please!

kaiser, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

If i hear gareth jones from cardiff reciting pi again i'll scream

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

(advert)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

And I'm not buying that White Lies record either.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

At least it doesn't scrobble the adverts

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

jonathan from spotify sounds remarkably like Michael Vaughan

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

wtf 2 adverts in a row (the 2nd was for that White Lies album)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

See what I mean about them? The Killers meet Editors big wowz!

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

can i get a spotify invite

dugong.jpg (jabba hands), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

thanks Chewshabadoo but I need an invitation code.

Please!

― kaiser, Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:55 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

can i get a spotify invite

― dugong.jpg (jabba hands), Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:03 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

Have any of you actually tried the link posted? Quite a few of my friends in the UK have used the link and joined today. Maybe it doesn't work in other countries...

\o.0/

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

I'm in the US and that link asks for one of two things:

1)an invite code

or

2)your email address so they can notify you when it goes "public"

I wonder what their excuse is. Don't they want more people to hear their stupid ads?

I am a vampire, therefore I take garlic pills (Bimble), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

is it UK only?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

mr bimble check your email

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

It's odd and a fucking pain how Spotify often doesn't specify that tracks are remixes in any way.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

i'm in the US and unless something changed in the last few days, we can't use spotify and all the workarounds have been blocked

miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 00:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

2)your email address so they can notify you when it goes "public"

I selected this a couple of weeks ago, and got an invite from them within the same day. May not be the case now, of course.

anatol_merklich, Friday, 23 January 2009 06:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

Well, I mean, I kind of did that when I dropped Spotify and switched to Tidal. The Bob Mould thing is something I noticed a while back and has always struck me as odd/interesting.

Amazon doesn't seem to have any employees posting regularly about Amazon on ILM, so I've never given that much thought.

dlp9001, Sunday, 29 May 2016 18:27 (Yesterday) Permalink

too busy being mercilessly exploited by the standards of merciless exploitation to shitpost on an internet message board?

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Sunday, 29 May 2016 18:33 (Yesterday) Permalink

shitposting - now i have a name for what i do

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 29 May 2016 18:38 (Yesterday) Permalink

thanks 4chan

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Sunday, 29 May 2016 18:40 (Yesterday) Permalink

I don't understand why DW has even become a talking point to the extent it is tbh; thinking of an automatically generated playlist as a friend or boyfriend or whatever seems crazytown to me.

It's like getting mad that Youtube's "other related videos" sidebar doesn't represent "who I really am"

Sharia Laws and Lambchop (The Yellow Kid), Sunday, 29 May 2016 18:40 (Yesterday) Permalink

I believe this is how Echo Nest would explain why DW is important, though I could be wrong:

With Taste Profiles for every user on your service, you can enhance the complete discovery experience in new ways. For example, you can build social discovery features to connect fans who share common music taste, giving them a fun new way to discover music through each other. Meanwhile, personalized recommendations in your app and marketing campaigns will keep fans coming back and spending more time with your service.

So essentially it's about making things fun for us, which seems like a laudable goal and only a real ass would object. I didn't understand the sentence after that, so I'll pretend it isn't there.

dlp9001, Sunday, 29 May 2016 18:50 (Yesterday) Permalink

as has been noted previously, glenn's cred as an ILMer/internet music nerd goes wayyyyy back before spotify was a gleam in some algorithm's eye. i may not agree with everything he says in this thread but trying to pigeonhole him as a company shill is unfair, and anyway irrelevant to the question of whether spotify's any good.

bucyrus ohio, vus cun nus en l’aria (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 29 May 2016 19:12 (Yesterday) Permalink

I know him from before Spotify as well, and I think he's a great guy, full stop, no sarcasm. That says nothing about the Spotify threads as they exist on ILM.

dlp9001, Sunday, 29 May 2016 19:21 (Yesterday) Permalink

Glenn stole my stars and kicked my puppy!

Jeff, Sunday, 29 May 2016 19:27 (Yesterday) Permalink

Nah, I like Glenn. He's nice.

Jeff, Sunday, 29 May 2016 19:27 (Yesterday) Permalink

I have a private warehouse full of everybody's stars.

glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 29 May 2016 19:40 (Yesterday) Permalink

dlp - okay but, again, what does glenn working for spotify, and simultaneously posting to ILM, have to do with your bob mould gripes? i'm not following the argument.

bucyrus ohio, vus cun nus en l’aria (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 29 May 2016 19:46 (Yesterday) Permalink

it's not an argument. it's rhetorical water torture.

dc, Sunday, 29 May 2016 19:48 (Yesterday) Permalink

glenn works for The Echo Nest, which is owned by Spotify, before we go any farther. He doesn't work for Spotify directly. It seems reasonable to suggest that we know who is posting on threads on ILM when they have a significant relationship with an involved corporate entity, especially if those threads relate to commercial music services. ILM is generally known as a site for discussing and discovering music. Echo Nest describe themselves thusly:

The Echo Nest is the industry’s leading music intelligence company, providing developers with the deepest understanding of music content and music fans.

Leading music services (Clear Channel’s iHeartradio, MOG, Rdio, SiriusXM, Spotify), editorial, video and social media networks (BBC.com, Foursquare, MTV, Twitter, VEVO, Yahoo!), connected device manufacturers (doubleTwist, Nokia) and big brands (Coca Cola, Intel, Microsoft, Reebok) use our platform and solutions to build smarter music experiences that help fans to better discover, share and interact with the music they love. Our customer base reaches over 100 million music fans every month through more than 400 apps and sites powered by The Echo Nest.

Headquartered in Somerville, MA, The Echo Nest was co-founded by two MIT PhDs. Investors include Commonwealth Capital Ventures, Matrix Partners, Norwest Venture Partners and three co-founders of the MIT Media Lab.

dlp9001, Sunday, 29 May 2016 20:13 (Yesterday) Permalink

ok............?

bucyrus ohio, vus cun nus en l’aria (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 29 May 2016 20:13 (Yesterday) Permalink

you brought up glenn's affiliation(s) in response to my point about amazon (and "people who listened to x listened to y" algorithms generally). i still don't understand how any of it is relevant to your beefs with said algorithms.

bucyrus ohio, vus cun nus en l’aria (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 29 May 2016 20:15 (Yesterday) Permalink

*sighs*

calstars, Sunday, 29 May 2016 20:22 (Yesterday) Permalink

The algorithms are just not so great. I think that's the only beef. They benefit from a confirmation bias, in the sense that they recommend 99 Bob Mould albums and one Lovely Eggs album, and all I remember is the latter. Otherwise they're generally useless.

Meanwhile, I'm looking for an iTunes/Tidal/YouTube/Pandora/Record Label/Music Equipment etc. thread where a fairly visible employee from the company administers it and responds directly to questions about the service, on ILM, on a regular and current basis, without some sort of notification in the subject. Maybe there are others. There are all sorts of unexplored depths to ILM. Currently the Spotify threads seem like they belong on Reddit, with appropriate headings.

dlp9001, Sunday, 29 May 2016 20:24 (Yesterday) Permalink

Someone here said at one point, "Spotify is ILM" and while I have other concerns in my life (like I need to buy asparagus for a barbecue tonight) that struck me as a slope of great slipperiness.

dlp9001, Sunday, 29 May 2016 20:27 (Yesterday) Permalink

If it is actually true that you have any other concerns in your life, please, go attend to them.

Dan I., Sunday, 29 May 2016 20:49 (Yesterday) Permalink

I work for Spotify. "The Echo Nest" might still exist in some corporate accounting sense, but not one that affects me.

Spotify has a lot of different "algorithms". Discover Weekly works very differently from "Related Artists", for example. Neither of those will ever "recommend" 99 Bob Mould albums, so I don't know what you're actually complaining about.

I do not "administer" this thread or anything else on ILM.

glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 29 May 2016 21:07 (Yesterday) Permalink

Guys please dont listen to new music

Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 May 2016 21:14 (Yesterday) Permalink

What is the percentage of posts on the thread "New and Noteworthy Additions to Spotify" in terms of glenn vs. non-glenn?

I mean, the person who works for Tidal and happens to be mentioned 293 times in a one-year-old thread that just randomly happens to be solely related to his company probably isn't administering anything either. He/She is just a big music fan. I get that.

dlp9001, Sunday, 29 May 2016 21:32 (Yesterday) Permalink

Ok but more importantly what is Glenn's gender and does (s)he like strip clubs?

Mordy, Sunday, 29 May 2016 21:37 (Yesterday) Permalink

I believe it's "glenn" and not "Glenn." Male, and I'm going with no. Nice guy. Spotify thread should be marked as "corporate related" or the like.

dlp9001, Sunday, 29 May 2016 21:44 (Yesterday) Permalink

Let it go. This thread is 8 years old, and it's about a service you don't use any more. It can take care of itself without your anonymous vigilance.

glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 29 May 2016 21:51 (Yesterday) Permalink

The thread I referenced is one year old. New and Noteworthy Additions to US Spotify.

I'm pretty sure I have a similar ratio of posts on threads about the Dustdevils, but they haven't cut me a check in a long, long time.

dlp9001, Sunday, 29 May 2016 21:53 (Yesterday) Permalink

Don't you still need that asparagus to go with your beef?

I've had Eno, ugh (ledge), Sunday, 29 May 2016 22:02 (Yesterday) Permalink

BOTH those threads are about a service you don't use.

glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 29 May 2016 22:04 (Yesterday) Permalink

I knew this handkerchief and this chloroform would come in handy some day

0 / 0 (lukas), Sunday, 29 May 2016 22:21 (Yesterday) Permalink

"dlp9001, may we not drop this? We know he belonged to Spotify... Let us not assassinate this lad further. You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"

dlp9001, Sunday, 29 May 2016 22:51 (Yesterday) Permalink

imo the funniest thing about drp901 is that ppl keep assuming he's some kind of nu-new-vicperry until he points out that he's actually some ilm dork that's been posting for a decade without anybody noticing until he started piping up with rape apologism and pissy wounded warrior pronouncements about "ilx"

2nd funniest thing is that ppl keep responding to him

mario vargis loosa (wins), Sunday, 29 May 2016 22:54 (Yesterday) Permalink

some of the conversation about algorithms here (they're prejudiced and personal) doesn't make much sense to me. aiui algorithms are basically iterative logical or mathematical rules designed to try and derive meaning from complex, "natural" or human data outputs mechanically.

the taxonomies (audience profile and genre) to which they apply have more capacity to imply or contain prejudice as they're hard to define objectively. from what i can see from the furia blogs and glenn's comments everyone involved seems to take an informed and playful interest in categorisation.

the feedback loop of machine learning can probably emphasise skewed input (ie prejudice) too. but algorithms, although they unintelligently process this sort of information with the recommendation results that we see, are not the main thing I'd point my gun at.

that said always struggled with husker du let alone bob mould so ymmv.

Fizzles, Sunday, 29 May 2016 22:59 (Yesterday) Permalink

wait did i just respond to dlp? I'm drunk.

Fizzles, Sunday, 29 May 2016 23:00 (Yesterday) Permalink

My job here has always been to ensure that the Colin Lloyd Tucker suites were kept clean. Someone has to mind the corners of ILM.

The Bob Mould thing isn't bullshit. I play Husker Du via flac when I want to hear them. DW has a serious schoolgirl crush on Bob.

I'll report back on my discover playlist after one month of alternating Smiths and Killing Joke. I don't know what will happen, but I expect it will be intersting.

dlp9001, Sunday, 29 May 2016 23:10 (Yesterday) Permalink

Brad C., Sunday, 29 May 2016 23:18 (Yesterday) Permalink

The only one who sounds like a shill on this thread is dlp9001; if you were a Tidal employee you couldn't be more obnoxious

🐸a hairy howling toad torments a man whose wife is deathly ill (James Morrison), Monday, 30 May 2016 01:52 (10 hours ago) Permalink

oh fuck what if he's becky

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 30 May 2016 02:57 (9 hours ago) Permalink

with the güd hair

bonita pooleymoon (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 30 May 2016 03:46 (8 hours ago) Permalink

Spotify is recommending a Scruffy the Cat anthology to me. I think it must be confusing me with Skot. Also I preferred the old Discover Weekly logo.

Why You Wanna Treeship Borad? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 May 2016 12:35 (19 seconds ago) Permalink


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