Kanye West - Dark Twisted Fantasy

no I dunno

but like you know what I mean — everyone seems to be taking things personally lately?

fuck you

holy shit dude not you too!

sbangin so hard

y'all i would like to propose the bold hypothesis that ilm rap threads have been leading to lots of fights lately b/c the poster base is mostly americans and we've all been stuck in our houses thanks to terrible snowstorms. what do u guys think?

― bernard snowy, Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:15 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

nah...goon cru's been sniping at each other like our menstrual cycles are lined up for a while now, and a Kanye clusterfuck thread was inevitable

i dunno i'm kinda having a great day. gonna get cable TV hooked up in like an hour.

i'm having a good day too but that doesn't mean i don't wanna rumble on the internet

^^^ liar

you totally want a cuddlestein mountain party, just admit it

am looking forward to catching up on hell of family guy reruns so i can complain more accurately

worst ilx beef evah!

in which direction is cuddlestein mountain party?

Croup otm about 808s, except that it's not very musically appealing either.

poppycock!

Are you guys ready yet to search YouTube for the muppets performing Monster? It'll make everyone feel better. But I'm on my phone so can attain no such URL.

hawkeye is a stud IMO

he was always sexxxing up nurses in the supply room and drinking martinis from their still and playing jokes and shit, way cooler dude than kanye

kanyewest: Room service uuuuugh! I hate when I order fruit and I can taste the other food they cut with the same knife. Beef flavored pineapples

Hmmm... Beef flavored pineapples. Possible new album title?

My Beautiful Dark Twisted Beef Flavored Fantasy

http://kanyepluscomics.tumblr.com/

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lf1go0oMoV1qz80mqo1_400.jpg

ugh

ban tumblr

http://pics.livejournal.com/tainteddisco/pic/0001k13x

album number 6 coming in the summer

sure

something that is mildly interesting to me: kanye gets criticized for being self-involved, and writing all of his songs about himself. but "all of the lights" has references to having a daughter, and implies a marriage, while kanye has no kids and has never been married, which suggests at least some attempt to sing from a non-kanye POV through the voice of a character (albeit a character that doesn't seem that different from kanye)

i think the fact that the character is poor and unemployed makes him seem a little different than kanye

don't think anyone ever said EVERY song is me me me first person? "All Of The Lights" is more of a narrative thing but Kanye has plenty of songs like that that describe a character's life or sketch out their story.

it just seems to be the overwhelming narrative re: kanye

One of my favorite Kanye songs is the first album's "Family Business."

i think that tumblr's funny

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lesehu1qUQ1qdhovmo1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1295994864&Signature=Hi%2B/oq5IyIazJ3tv87JnMjOIWGA%3D

"Family Business" is narrative but it's also very autobiographical

one of the reasons i used to dig kanye's writing is that even though he's not all that brilliant and really might be solipsistic to the point of pathology, it was necessary because he wasn't very rich for that solipsism to interface with a world that wasn't built around it, and kanye wrote songs about that. like, something like "we don't care" is still about kanye, and about kanye's impetuous emotions and messiah complex, but it's also about the sociopolitics of being black and lower-middle in chicago, or anywhere, and the intersection of this big social problem and this big specific ego had all the friction and weirdness and revelations of decent fiction. the reason i don't really like any of the writing on dark twisted fantasy is that as interaction with a world not constructed on his terms has become less and less necessary for this guy, his songs have become more neatly and completely about What It's Like To Be Kanye, which isn't that interesting to me. i did notice that "all of the lights" was fiction, and was interested in it because of that, but unless i'm missing some key lines it's basically a "i have been an asshole and am paying for it and kind of wish i weren't but i suppose i ought to" narrative, which, regardless of the details, is The Kanye Narrative, so it's really not all that special.

otm

"Family Business" is narrative but it's also very autobiographical

Maybe, but I tend to assume artists embroider if not lie.

also come on, lol

http://i17.tinypic.com/6ptj2ua.gif

whether Kanye is lying or manufacturing any details is beside the point, which is that "Family Business" is 'about' him telling stories from his own life in a way that "All Of The Lights" is not

Oh sure -- I never argued that. I adduced "Family Business" as an example of his narrative gifts, which have almost entirely eroded.

i should expand "i have been an asshole and am paying for it and kind of wish i weren't but i suppose i ought to" to include "...and i'm not paying for it all that much anyway cuz i'm rich, lol", which is probably (for me) the thing that keeps all the supposedly fascinating self-aware assholism from being dramatic or interesting.

holey moley, batman!

^^^who is this? xp

i'm not paying for it all that much anyway cuz i'm rich, lol", which is probably (for me) the thing that keeps all the supposedly fascinating self-aware assholism from being dramatic or interesting.

i feel that this should be true, and am not sure why i find his "i'm not just a total asshole (sad), but a fabulously wealthy total asshole, so eat me" shtick so funny. it's not dramatic or interesting, but it amuses me. he's a like a three stooges of all moes.

Depends on how funny you find his lyrical and vocal pratfalls.

^^^who is this?

was wondering the same thing

a rock critic/generalist

xp -- yeah that "(for me)" wasn't boilerplate; i know that shtick is exactly what amuses/interests lots of people who love this album. the rapper i really liked this year was curren$y, who sits on his couch taking bong rips and eating ritz crackers while acting like he has fuck-you money. maybe i just liked him cuz that was my summer.

deej: i dunno, a guy?

also a rock critic/generalist