funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this

http://www.mixcloud.com/championdj/new-uk-funkybass-mix/

so belatedly hearing joe's 'claptrap' on this kinda makes me think the microtribal thing i was mulling over was maybe a subconscious funky-eared interpretation of hessle type stuff all along on my part, or something. i like how in that context the coughing and wheezing samples take on a danny weed-ish humour rather than the usual photek nerdage tedium.

lr groove seems to have undergone a strange transformation lately - from deep rollers to a positively dj naughtyesque strut (all based on repetitive vuh-vuh, mip-mip vox samples - super hard to remember what track's which). while 'buckshot' there is available for free download somewhere from his twitter, 'basskick' (which you can hear on the new smoove kriminal show) is clearly his new masterpiece.

have wondered whether to voice my general new year's apprehensions for how funky will go in 2011, but will see how it plays out instead i guess.

what are "microtribal" and "lr groove"?

microtribal is just some bollocks retardonym i made up to explain an uncommon and very likely unhealthy predilection for a mix of the more minimal funky riddims by dj champion earlier last year. (which is annoyingly no longer even online.) probably best disregard tbh.

lr groove meanwhile is a v v good funky producer who put out his 'key ep' last year:

youtube.com/watch?v=HfQskN-sklM
http://www.junodownload.com/products/the-key/1612002-02/

well, if this isn't you, somebody else used the term in a 2008 review.

A lot of funky microtribal sounds a little bit like (a ruffer version of) vakant circa 2008. Tolga Fidan was a decent producer IIRC.

(see his corrective mix of breach's 'fatherless')

This is a spot on description. Who but the most ridiculous of chancers would deign to check for the OG.

(also available to dl on that soundcloud is a remix of 'the sound', and a forgotten marcus tune that if you're anything like me you will have had noted down as "gaytown gay??".)

AHHHHH! I have loved "Gaytown Gay" ("Funk Factory") since forever I think!!! Or at least since Mak 1 played it on a set with Shantie last year. SO GOOD.

I looked at that URL and for a second I thought someone had decided to make the term 'funkybass' a thing and was about to delete the whole thread in a fit of rage.

no, but do you know i couldve sworn more and more funky producers are starting to append the "/bass" tag onto things. hooray for good business sense eh!

xp yeah i should really have been going a lot more mental about "gaytown gay" but the bittersweetness of it being so old and so, so much wickeder than most everything from the last few months briefly overcame me. (perhaps i exaggerate, idk.)

was thinking at some point it'd be good to have a go at compiling like a clips reel (or three) of fave unknown past funky riddims and, i dunno, put em on soundcloud and badger people for info or something. or just to have a nice historical artefact to cry over really. yeah?

http://djs.totalkiss.com/2011/01/tracklist-070111/

new pioneer show is a worthwhile way to pass the time, unusually enough. very glad to hear dj mystery's 'room 101' catching on - love that one. first time i've seen the dj q song (something like an 'i feel' swipe i guess) get played in a funky context too.

and god bless fuzzy logik for 'freestyle' obv. try mixing that into sunday roast you bastards.

http://www.mixcloud.com/championdj/uk-funkybass-mix-2006-2010

another new champion mix of that good old slashbass. putting it on now.

http://soundcloud.com/championdj/platnum-signals-champions-gassed-up-dub-mix

and another aight freebie for download.

this champion mix is sounding pretty tasty so far actually! haha i love big rob's 'tutti frutti booty wiv my goonehs" song, sorry.

was thinking at some point it'd be good to have a go at compiling like a clips reel (or three) of fave unknown past funky riddims and, i dunno, put em on soundcloud and badger people for info or something. or just to have a nice historical artefact to cry over really. yeah?

We should do this.

Still haven't ID'd that Jagged Edge-sampling tune from like 2 and half years ago.

Really really really into this Frenzy tune "Bounce", probably the slinkiest piece of MC funky since "Ransom"??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvVy5rCOkFo

Available on juno along with an assortment of other Frenzy stuff.

Gonna have to nab that awesome microtribalol tune on the "When I Loved You" EP also.

'http://soundcloud.com/scottmusik/funk-factory-oh-i-no-mix

do not, under any circumstances, mess around with scottie d.'

Really like these, the remix of The Sound is my fave I think. He's one of those guys I'd heard of but hadn't pin pointed in the sea of producers that don't get IDed often on the radio or whatever.

oooooh, dunno about cosigning that frenzy triblol effort. mother always told me to be vigilant of tech-house.

no marcus podcast this week btw? please tell me i'm not gonna miss tom lea guesting.

eastwood is starting a show on deja tonight btw. 8-10

Keen to hear that if it gets posted.

Do you know the track between "just believe" and "tutti frutti" on the champion mix?

funkystepz, 'loca moca'.

unlucky 13.

01. DJ Ant-Man - Rubix Cube
02. MA1 ft Sophia - I'm Right Here (DJ Naughty Remix)
03. LR Groove - Just Believe
04. Funkystepz - Loca Moca
05. Andy Jay & S-Tee ft Big Rob - Tutti Frutti
06. DJ Naughty - 5th Gear
07. Screama ft Farah - I Can't Lose
08. Emvee - Glitch Dub
09. Crazy Cousinz - Always Be My Baby
10. Ill Blu - Blu Magic
11. Joe - Claptrap
12. Ny - Sea Sick (DJ Naughty Remix)
13. ??
14. Champion - Motherboard
15. Crazy Cousinz ft Calista - Bongo Jam (DJ Naughty Remix)
16. Champion - Tribal Affair
17. Apple - Mr Bean
18. Funkystepz - For U (Instrumental)
19. DJ Naughty - Rhythm Dance
20. Undisputed - Fya
21. Addictive - Domino Effect (DJ Naughty Remix)
22. LR Groove - Device

just another lil reason to love the naughtster:

http://soundcloud.com/djnaughtymusic/big-mack-97

Getting very Crazy Bank vibes off that one.

he's advertising it as a chris mack homage (as you mightve already guessed). i'm not gonna pretend to be an expert on the matter though!

<3 naughty for even remembering chris mack and not making a steve gurley homage or something.

http://www.mixcloud.com/djnaughty/dj-naughty-oldskool-house-garage-mini-mix/

further evidence m'lud. the mixing is pure love.

Champion_DJ Champion
@SabszSoundsz I just need to get my inspiration back, so I'm just takin a break but I've got enough stuff to last the year anyway lol
4 hours ago

Champion_DJ Champion
I can't lie, bassline is my biggest inspiration by far! Never fails to surprise me
47 minutes ago

Champion_DJ Champion
Bassboy and 1st born are the BEST at working with female vocals in my opinion, the tunes I found on youtube are hard!
36 minutes ago

haha this was my exact same thought process a month ago. fuck all yall not feeling that bassboy cut i put up earlier!

perhaps there's been a tipping point in me, a moment when this trend had gathered enough momentum while my focus was elsewhere that I could switch my gaze back and pretend that something new was happening (critics do this all the time btw). And also, maybe I've recharged my batteries enough to find radically uneventful house records fun again.

― Tim F, Friday, 7 January 2011 07:36 (3 days ago) Bookmark

i mean yeah this too but yknow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qky318wgCmU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ySm5HfW9p0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sODWIdS1KfY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unY1ObYiKKQ

wow ok, really? i could and would argue how this stuff is analagous to midlands/northwest soul scenes acting as the same subconscious primordial swamp to the edgier melting pot rubrics twenty years ago (they used to call sindecut's 'tell me why' bassline too!) but ultimately i think these tracks are massively enjoyable on their own two feet too. even factmag is picking this up, albeit from the grime side of things.

http://soundcloud.com/naughtyraver/naughtyraver-ft-charlene-juiceman-7wonders-crazy

anyways - this is not too shabby at all. (roska had a go at it a few months ago too but it was woefully uninspired.)

when i get home later, will i be able to find an ultra classic banton/dubplate wonder deja set itt??

few rushed asides: woww dj bluemaxx takes me there every time.
new smoove kriminal ep set for feb sounds fabulous. still crushing on 'soul serious'. how does this thread feel about recent deep house vibes in funky? been trying to identify a track from 2009 (i think) which has the lyric "decadent but pure/i will call u master/get u there much faster" over some yoruba-ish bump

if you mean one of the old banton/wonder sets then yeah i might be able to sort that.

soul serious as in sunday roast's label, or a track? (can't find reference to a latter). and did you have some specifics in mind re deep house vibes? i think i kinda know what you mean but i wouldn't like to generalize just yet.

ooops, i meant soul deep, as in this smoove kriminal number: http://soundcloud.com/smoovekriminal/soul-deep

in terms of the deep house thing, it's just certain things in the sound palette of bits i'm hearing played recently by weeksey, antman, rhino and a few others, like sweepy pads, bells, dubby filter bass etc.

sorry r|t|c I broke the internets trying to load the entire thread in order to find the previous naughty raver tune you were tsking us for not responding to, then I never came back to answer.

The set of new youtubes you posted, excepting the last one, I'm assuming are from bassline but really if you wanted to you could make a case for them being 2-step or even funky, they feel like they're almost in the center of that venn diagram. From 2008 up until the last time I checked bassline (about 12 months ago) the beats were definitely growing more clattery and less 4X4 pump but I don't remember them being as light and skippy as this. Is this pretty common for bassline in general now or is it a smaller subtrend?

http://soundcloud.com/ts7music/ts7-vs-rihanna-whats-my-name-remix

bit of unique 3 'rhythm takes control' anyone? :)

Is this pretty common for bassline in general now or is it a smaller subtrend?

not quite sure how to answer this tbh. those cherrypicks aren't common as such but nor would i class them as a 'subtrend' exactly; they were found during a ton of bassline listening in which you were just as likely to hear exactly what you'd have expected of bassline (even the actual old tunes from 2007 or whatever, remarkably unabashed) as you would grimey or funky-friendly stuff, without conscious distinction. i guess i'd rather prefer to see it as bassline having sorta evolved into like this instinctive pure music sprachbund where producers are liable to morph from one dialect to the other at whim. or something!

dj q's [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00x8626
]1xtra mix show/url] is a tremendously fun listen these days anyway - i highly recommend it. can also download in full here, if bandwidth can withstand with:

http://ul.to/pukmfm/1Xtra_UKG_M1X_DJ_Q_2011_01_12_qrip.mp3

certain things in the sound palette of bits i'm hearing played recently by weeksey, antman, rhino and a few others, like sweepy pads, bells, dubby filter bass etc.

yeah, not mega into this stuff if i'm honest. some of smoove kriminal's inorganic-sounding (for want of a better description) stuff is okay ('night breeze', 'big flavour'; his 'blackberry music' remix is v good) but i'm no different to anyone else in much preferring 'stop that!'. smoove also has this one that samples chun li/streetfighter 2 which uncomfortably hits home the impression that a lot of this stuff is closer to 16-bit video game music than it is deep house or anything.

dubplate wonder's lush, humid, thrilling 'wonderland 09' mix is probably the closest there's been to funky & deep house intertwining i reckon.

btw boss did you want an old banton/wonder set then or did i misunderstand?

the sections in wonderland 09' between 11, 12 & 13 are very good examples of those deep, bluelit night-moves in funky. Track 17 (a wonder production?) is the comprehensive instruction in the style (should it exist), i think.

I would love to attempt an articulation on an implied connection with 16bit music and the notion of the 'inorganic', but the longtime lurker in me is putting the brakes on. I will just say though, that Yuzo Koshiro, internal plug-ins and the ecstacy of propulsion in grid patterns are v. important.

Yes please rtc, that would be fantastic. I was going through my 2008 folders and could only find one set from 4th Nov, when i was sure i had many more.

o haha i think that's the only one i've got as well. soz :/

heh i only meant it in terms of smooth gliding neon arcs not really fitting into funky's world of spiky ruffness moreso than any strictly pro-organic damnation. wonderland 09 just has the danger factor to it i guess.

Cheers for the DJ Q set r|t|c, bandwidth permits so I will check it out and report back.

yeah, not mega into this stuff if i'm honest. some of smoove kriminal's inorganic-sounding (for want of a better description) stuff is okay ('night breeze', 'big flavour'; his 'blackberry music' remix is v good) but i'm no different to anyone else in much preferring 'stop that!'. smoove also has this one that samples chun li/streetfighter 2 which uncomfortably hits home the impression that a lot of this stuff is closer to 16-bit video game music than it is deep house or anything.

Also this doesn't feel like a "new" thing to me, but something that's been going on among a whole bunch of producers/DJs (weirdly (coincidentally?) focused around deja vu and also ukfunky.com at least while it was updating) for maybe 3 years now?

Agreed re the distinction of the Wonderland 09 mix.

I have the Dubplate/Hard House sets from 25 November and 9 December 2008 as well, will try to upload one soon.

r|t|c! That DJ Q set!! Changing my life!!!

The DJ Q remix of "Woo Riddim"!!!!! Is even better than the original, not to mention <redacted> et. al. which would dearly love to be even a tenth as eerie and moving and ominous as it is so effortlessly.

Not that I don't adore "Woo Riddim" but this remix is jawdropping.

Also adore the 2-steppy Mike Delinquent Project remix of Wretch 32 that comes on directly afterwards.

LISTEN PEOPLE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1NzVp2MSuY&feature=related

Its a quality remix, DJ Q has a quality instro called Oh as well and god knows what else. But I'm feeling that laid back grimy, funky thing. Have you heard the TRC stuff on Butterz? I can't get enough of Oo Aa Ee, Royal T's remix of it and Skipping Rope.

OI i take massive umbrage at just calling 'oh' a quality instro, it is a captivating song of jme's alright?

glad ur enjoying the set tim! bursting with life innit.

Yeah I like JMEs vocal too. Was just on a umm Q tip haha.

Wow "Oh" is great as well!

hey are the rinse podcasts working for everyone?? they havent been all week for me but there's a guy on dissensh talking about the newest marcus now so idk.

rinse keeps tweeting that if the stream stops, just refresh and it should work.