OINK Probs???

When is the regular label CD version of In Rainbows coming out?

early next year, reportedly via ato (dave matthews label) in the states and xl internationally

That's ages away. Donation download is the primary medium in the first few months of release. I don't see how them releasing a regular CD eventually negates it being a new model. Especially if they don't take down the download option once the CD is released (are they going to?). I can't see a problem with linking the two things, maura. Certainly not enough to make you scream!

can we unban mickey just for this thread? its not the same without him.

<i>Aside: If Radiohead (the British rock band who achieved worldwide success via a long-term mutually-beneficial relationship with a major record label) were truly radical, they would have posted their new album as a BitTorrent file with a PayPal & bank account link for the fans who felt like paying. Not hosting it on some weird website with an awkward interface & requiring credit card info…</i>

Uh huh...

-- Eppy, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 06:54 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

^^^

I tried to buy it through the website (using Linux and Firefox) and couldn't. I tried really hard too. No other website gives that much grief.

yeah i slskd that shit, the website was all kinds of slow

gr8080 OTM.

u didn't need 2 give radiohead cc info unless u wanted to.

i have a spare, unlistened, set of mp3s of 'in rainbows' if anyone wants them.

hahahaha

gr8080 OTM.

-- John Justen, Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:05 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

bring back borchardt for schadenfreude + fun

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xpost I don't think coding errors negate the model they're using.

Also, I couldn't have used BitTorrent as of a few months ago--I know it seems like everyone has their own dedicated non-firewalled internet connection these days but lots of people don't. I know torrents don't work on a lot of campus networks, for instance. So coding errors aside, their model reached a lot more model than Mr. Rupture's.

Model model model argh.

Uh-oh-spagetti-oh!

http://idolator.com/tunes/the-law/the-oink-fallout-should-its-ex+users-be-watching-their-backs-314216.php

As far as money goes, remember that "commercial advantage or private financial gain" can include the benefits of barter and the like. So the fact that, in your [description of OiNK's ratio rules], "they had to assist in infringement in order to keep infringing" might be enough.

But if RIAA does get the logs and data, then there will be hell to pay for anyone who used credit cards [to donate]; those who maintained membership via upload will be a little harder to trace because you'd have to follow the IP addresses, and ISPs are not always willing to hand over their customers without court orders

My bottom line--there should be some level of fear, but the action is going to be from the RIAA (again), not the feds, unless a new US Attorney General (once confirmed) has a real passion for prosecuting IP violations.

Alba, what they are basically doing is a "media runup" to the CD release where everyone's considered a member of the media. (Citizen journalism, y'all!) This way the temptation to leak the record would theoretically be tempered, although people traded the thing via BitTorrent anyway (no doubt in part because of the balkiness of the site.) The low quality of the MP3s that came out represented a deliberate attempt to make people *want* to buy the album in some physical form when it's available. The band's management has been quoted as saying as much.

First, I chatted with an American intellectual property litigator who asked to remain anonymous, and asked him basically the same question posed by Pytlik:

They should be very, very scared. There are at least two reasons why this is not just your average, everyday, run-of-the-mill file sharing copyright infringement: this involves music that has not yet been commercially released, and money changed hands.

that's dumb. pre-releases weren't what the majority of Oink users were downloading! almost all this speculation is based on ignorance about what the site was about.

EAT A DIJCK BATCHES
I'M A FREE MAN
http://torrentfreak.com/oink-admin-released-from-custody-071023/

latebloomer i know what the site is about. the issue is what the labels care about at this point, and they pretty much only focus on pre-release material in their litigation/c&d letters. and the fact that oink had copious information on its users and what they were downloading means that people who seeded those torrents (including people who were doing it 'just to help out their ratio') might be worried.

the idea of oink as this paradise of out-of-print stuff that was all free and clear and out of the mainstream, mannnn, is a really beautiful one, but it ain't really all that true.

no, it's the idea of oink as near compendium of EVERY PIECE OF MUSIC EVER RECORDED

it was the most thorough database of the history of popular music

god someone please post the pig crying again

are there any torrent site around that come close? i didn't think so, but chatted to some guy a month or two ago, and he mentioned some site.. but i did forget the name of it.

YSI

when i stared using oink there were only like a few thousand torrents i used to go through and check all the new ones every day - i am an oink og bow down

someone please tell me how hard it is to peg IP addresses exactly to torrent activity.

I've been told it's way, way harder (read: expensive/time consuming) to do that than cherrypick shit off of someone's "sharing folder" on Napster or whatever.

it's not the idea of oink being a haven for stuff that's out of print or really obscure, but of if having good rips in various bitrates of say the first talking heads album or the fourth public enemy album or the 19th live phish album or some j-pop record or what have you.

aka what cutty said

ok yeah.

cutotmy.

i actually looked up how many live phish albums there are (20).

last thing downloaded from oink - Britney Spears "Blackout"

i have many regrets

http://www.2pass.co.uk/nervous.gif

credit to am0n

when they kick at my front door
how'm i gonna come?

http://images.dr3vil.com/files2/default/Eagle911.gif

Big problem here: Not a bald eagle. Might even be a hawk of some kind.

kestrels have feelings too

I left my Azureus running, and one of my files just started uploading ... and I have no idea how or why (and I'll be the first to admit that I do not understand the techy side of this stuff). Anyways, I stopped the seeding ... cuz that shit could be the pigs, man. I ain't sharing my stash wit dem!

I love how this "exclusive" site apparantly was used by everyone on the internet.

I just removed all the oink torrents from uTorrent and it feels a bit surreal.

aw shit, I just donated like 4 days ago.

i honestly felt helpless for a bit after i heard it. like if the only place i ate for 2 years suddenly wasn't there anymore.

^^^i know this is fodder for lol oink people but it's true :( :( :(

i think it's hilarious that the dude who organized the raid was like, "thousands of people payed premium money for this site." idiot.

I often noticed IMAGE/ requests to my website that came from OINK and had no problems with users sharing my stuff since it seemed a fairly small and exclusive community of people who dug music.

Not to derailroad the thread, but my main problem is with all the Russian mp3 sites and the people who use them and take some kind of moral high-ground when most of the goods they offer are obviously downloaded en-masse from file-sharing in the first place! A bunch of them still have tags of the original rippers, FFS! That and the rumours of organised crime involvement and the seeming impossibility of getting to speak to anyone at the Russian collecting agency it all leaves a bad taste in my mouth - obviously they're the ones making REAL money off mp3s rather than the filesharers.

i dont think i can read abt music anymore - i just reflexively go to open oink in a new tab whenever i hear abt something i want

i don't think i can listen to music anymore

i just miss my cute avatar.

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