Anticipate Ghostface's "Apollo Kids"

wonder what deej thought of like every place in the world who reviewed this bfore his place of work did and he revived the thread lol

Well, those are his biases. Cohen doesn't like R&B, never has.

He doesn't throw his darts sideways anymore, but without sort of bullshit clutter, he's still an incredibly ostentatious lyricist, just one that's easier to parse.

UNLIKE U THEN ooo burn hi 5

yeh that's what's i was thinking tbh, like it's fine to not like wizard just say so, no need for bizarro universalist narrative

I kind of hate contemporary R&B too but Ghostdini's take on it appealed to me (which I elaborated on on the Ghostdini thread iirc)

anyway "all-r&b" is more press release than reality for wizard

i have no interest in hearing this record so im not gonna weigh in in his defense

why'dja bring it up then

i no longer harbor any fantasies of being a paid music editor anymore but in the event of some fluke, consider this an open invite for zvookster to write for me anytime

why'dja bring it up then

― zvookster, Monday, January 3, 2011 1:33 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

read the review, seemed 'relevant'

lol

thx for your important contribution deej

this album's probably the first time i've been genuinely disappointed by ghostface, though i bitched a little about big doe rehab at the time and have since repented

blasting this in my car made me appreciate it a little more, tbh

welcome to rap

lol

if this is the first time you've been "genuinely disappointed" by Ghostface, I have to wonder when you started listening, July 2010? I mean, that is almost part and parcel of following the guy

all rappers suck when they stop leading the fans and the fans start leading them

r.e.m. too

all rappers suck when they stop leading the fans and the fans start leading them

I have no idea what this means

did the fans lead him to make Ghostdini? or did they lead him to make this album? how is this 'leading' accomplished anyway

The fan replied, “My Ghostface, My precious child, I love you and I would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering, when you see only one set of footprints, it was then that I carried you.”

lol

following up his smallest album with a 180 named after his biggest album

is the new

30 is the new 20 oh wait wait wait watching this movie helped me remember some more illegal shit i did in my youth, please don't leave

rappers are pathetic

lol

just saying

ghostdini is Where He Was Going and fans are one-dimensional pieces of shit who pulled him back into hoe-handcuffing that's below him

you don't have to like ghostdini but it helps if most of its detractors admitted they only listen to one kind of rap

FYI Ironman is his biggest record

i want to know what is the only one kind of rap i listen to since i didn't like Ghostdeini

i like both kinds of music, hip and hop

also helps if they didn't act more grossed out by "absorb pussy juice like a sponge" than "we've got whores on all fours waiting to do all four of us"

i don't know you man, but i hope you wouldn't bash it for what it is if you know full well that "going r&b" albums aren't to your taste

I don't remember Ghostdini getting a lot of hate around here. Cohen obviously hated it.

i like both kinds of music, hip and hop

blasphemer

i don't recall ever "bashing" it, just didn't like it for the exact reaon you nailed - i don't listen to Ghost for his r&b side, i don't mind a track or two on a record, i just can't get down with a whole album of it (not to say deini didn't have some worthwhile tunes, just not my kind of thing; fwiw i'm not declaring Apollo Kids to be some "return to form" either, just a better record than the last couple

hating on a rapper for making an R&B album is like some sub-mid-90s "you can new jack swing on my nuts" throwback silliness (not saying yr doin this jon. maybe Cohen is to some extent)

like I didn't even know such genre purists still existed

can we all just agree the last three are all "pretty good" and be done with it

hating on a rapper for making an R&B album is like some sub-mid-90s "you can new jack swing on my nuts" throwback silliness (not saying yr doin this jon. maybe Cohen is to some extent)

i don't get how not liking one particular facet of Ghost's personality means i'm hating on him

did you read the part of my post where I specifically said I wasn't accusing you of doing that

hating on a rapper for making an R&B album is like some sub-mid-90s "you can new jack swing on my nuts" throwback silliness (not saying yr doin this jon. maybe Cohen is to some extent)

― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, January 3, 2011 6:55 PM Bookmark

or maybe some late 00s "death of autotune" silliness

but Cohen gets TWO digs in at Ghostdini in his review, including this one: it's tempting to overrate it due a general relief that he didn't try to make Ghostdini again.

so I kinda think yeah maybe he is an annoying genre puritan. Someone more familiar with his writing/ouevre (Alfred?) can maybe shed some light

xp

Grand Puba made my favorite 00s autotune rap song btw lol

Wizard Of Poetry would have sounded 30x better if it wasn't mostly shitty keyboard presets, and was mostly Ghost over live instruments or classic "crying over old R&B loops" stylee

^hip-hop rockist

ghost's R&B songs are dope -- bp wallets & pretty toney did a great job w/ the new school / old school R&B thing

the problem is just that he kept reiterating those ideas over & over again starting w/ fishscale

he has four classic records & a bunch of diminishing returns records. pretty tony is the last great one

fuiud

pfft

pfft

what does 'back like that' do for you that wasnt already done on pretty toney

"back like that" is the only song I don't like on that album. Also since when do rappers you like have to be insanely different on every album?

'insanely different' sorta stacks the deck no

i do ask that artists try, you know, new ideas, on new albums, when their shtick starts to get tired

i actually like 'back like that' way more than the sops to real h-h heads like that corny pete rock track & rapping over donuts instrumentals

i mean, yes I know that Tame Impala fans might know who Dilla and Doom are, but you're overcompensating here

the 'ghostface does no wrong' thing is nonsense. a schtick is a schtick no matter how consistently deployed

oh for god's sake -- who has said THAT?