2008 Primaries Thread 3: The Rejecting and Denouncening

Wow. Not often you get an Andie MacDowall joke in online commentary.

"Who the hell's he gonna get questions from...Colmes?!"

it's endearing the way he kind of doesn't do it right

If only he did that while wearing a cowboy hat.

Man's left-handed and brushed with the right. Also LOL Souljah Boy for Stephanopolous/prepostorous.

http://thepage.time.com/endorsement-statements-of-former-sens-nunn-boren-for-obama-2/

Nunn and Boren have accepted Senator Obama’s invitation to serve as advisers to his National Security Foreign Policy Team.

(bye, hillary)

are they supers?

more important than supers

theyre bloodthirsty pricks.

sounds like bye-my-voting-for-a-Dem for 1st time in 24 years

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jackie and dunlap weigh in

Did you abandon the Red State Reader after you realized these guys had you beat?

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Bloodthirsty pricks, one of whom voted against the first Gulf War?

You must be kidding, right?

they also want to rid the world of nukes, but morbs is never kidding

i mean, those guys are to the right of joe lieberman, which is why they're on stage with mccain. oh wait.

morbs doesn't like that one of them is supposed to dislike gay people, and is uninterested whether the other one is in fact gay

more important than supers

Why? I mean, I'm sure their endorsement and active support is coveted, but why does this finally kill-off HRC's campaign?

she's been dead for a while, it's just another reminder for her to use the exit

hey gabb do you want Hillary to exit the race?

morbs doesn't like that one of them is supposed to dislike gay people

I don't recall any such thing and don't give a shit.

Sam Nunn is an odious hawk, if Obama has anything to do with him he's just as hopeless as "lefty dreamers" fear. But make yourselves happy.

obama shoulder brush :D ha

Hillary is behind a tag that says break glass in event of emergency. We've already had a fire drill or two.

she's been dead for a while, it's just another reminder for her to use the exit

I hear you, but she doesn't. If she wins Penn. (and she likely will), I think she'll stay in it and try to make Obama appear as unelectable as she can, all the way into and through the convention.

I guess I'm misremembering your making some comments to that effect, morbs

If she loses Indiana, it's over

I can't stand Nunn, but his endorsement doesn't mean Obama's suddenly obligated to support foreign misadventures or missile shields.

that'll be harder to say if he runs with him.

the endorsements are being touted on security issues, but maybe they are more important signals along rural-voter lines?

http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/041808DailyUpdateGraph1_nemti6sd.gif

these guys aren't so rural, but they would take some of the air out of an edwards nod for hillary

ouch, that poll. i'm almost bitter, now, myself

I guess I'm misremembering your making some comments to that effect, morbs

From what year? Do you think I remember everything on the baseball cards of these largely interchangeable people? Not my kind of trivia.

That poll is the ABC debate's mission accomplished.

national poll is meaningless. question is whether he loses by more or less than 10 in PA, wins by more or less than 15 (20?) in NC, and wins or loses (by more than 5) in IN.

It'll pass. But yeah, swift boating a candidate is especially effective when it comes at the hands of supposedly respectable journalists. At least the GOP had to pay to air commercials against Kerry. Josh Marshall is spot-on as usual.

If she loses Indiana, it's over.

Possibly, yeah. But isn't she far ahead in Indiana?

Not according to ever-reliable Survey USA, their new poll out today has Obama up by 5.

WOW!

it's good that we've got this stuff now rather than late in the week before election day. but somehow i don't think that's why hillary's piling on.

Did you abandon the Red State Reader after you realized these guys had you beat?

ha, actually one of the features in the can for the long-lost second issue is an email exchange with jackie and dunlap.

National polls aside, the bitter thing doesn't seem to have hurt Obama in PA at all:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/pa/pennsylvania_democratic_primary-240.html

the bitter thing didn't hurt him nationally either, if its anything it was the debate

the bitter thing didn't hurt him nationally either, if its anything it was the debate

That "dust it off" thing may help him get past the debate. He's resilient! He's plucky! He's hip!

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these used to say "is hillary finished?"

sam nunn isn't running for any office again, i don't think you have to worry about him being on the ticket. i don't think he'd take any cabinet post below state either and that's not gonna be offered to him.

gabbneb isn't the question more does hillary blow him out in penn and indiana and does he barely squeak by in carolina? ie does he limp severely into the convention? cuz otherwise moot fucking point right, this race is over. now if somehow this does happen and that's when edwards finally endorses hill, then it could maybe get interesting but odds are none of these things are gonna happen nevermind all of them right?

Obama on North Carolina early voting:

"you can call my hotline on 1-888-NCEARLY, that's E-A-R-E, UH, E-A-R-L-Y... almost pulled a Dan Quayle there for a second"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cv2DOlE8xc

the governer's name is e-a-r-l-e-y