Movies are too fucking long these days imho

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Would all those musical-overture segments (which I assume were included in running times) from the big prestige roadshow films from the '60s make a difference? Not sure if there were enough of them to matter, but they seemed to run two or three minutes.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

Of course, those films were already three or four hours long, so probably not.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

well we're in difficult territory with that. there is a question of whether you would have had to endure them when the film got rolled out into regular cinemas. i genuinely dk. but those films were relatively rare -- this is about whether your average programmer is longer now.

moholy-nagl (history mayne), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

data doesn't matter. NO comedy/thriller/romance type movie that isn't some kind of visually stunning epic or intensely contemplative and/or suspenseful masterwork should EVER be over 120 minutes, and preferably not over 100 minutes. Whether there are more films like this than there used to be, all of them are too long.

I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

otm

moholy-nagl (history mayne), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

I bet that 90% of the films that check in at 150 minutes+ aspire to one or more of those things; how many actually achieve it, obviously many fewer.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

This is actually a significant factor in my cinema going now. I refused to see Avatar because of the length. I always ask how long something is before agreeing to go unless it's a new Coen Bros or something on that level.

I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

A four-hour Pauly Shore film? I'm guessing that's a pass for you.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

# of very long movies (over 130 minutes), by decade:

1950s — 58
1960s — 121
1970s — 72
1980s — 55
1990s — 97
2000s — 112

# of very short movies (under 86 minutes), by decade:

1950s — 84
1960s — 48
1970s — 38
1980s — 26
1990s — 35
2000s — 13

(wanted to do a medium-length one for comparison purposes, but couldn't decide what range to use — there actually seem to be two separate frequency peaks within "medium-length", one in the mid-90s, another in the low 110s)

Egyptian Raps Crew (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

(all drawn from spacecadet's google spreadsheet data, in case that wasn't clear)

Egyptian Raps Crew (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

data doesn't matter. NO comedy/thriller/romance type movie that isn't some kind of visually stunning epic or intensely contemplative and/or suspenseful masterwork should EVER be over 120 minutes, and preferably not over 100 minutes. Whether there are more films like this than there used to be, all of them are too long.

― I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Wednesday, December 29, 2010 5:13 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I bet that 90% of the films that check in at 150 minutes+ aspire to one or more of those things; how many actually achieve it, obviously many fewer.

― clemenza, Wednesday, December 29, 2010 5:18 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think the premise of this thread is that that's not true. 2.5 hour action movies and 2+ hour comedies that obviously don't aspire to much are not huge outliers any more.

caek, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

I upped it to 150 minutes before making that statement--I see few action films, unless it's something like Inception or The Dark Knight, both of which obviously have artistic aspirations, whether you think they get there or not. But you might be right, I honestly don't know.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

More action films without artistic aspirations plz

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

On the basis of those two, I'd agree. I'd still prefer the aspirations, though, in hopes of lucking onto something like the second Spiderman or Batman films, both of which I liked a lot.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

Hurting rlly consistently a foole this week

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 19:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

don't wanna get dragged into that people-showing-up-at-random-during-the-middle-of-films-at-the-cinema-in-the-olden-days argument again but check this out

piscesx, Saturday, 21 April 2012 13:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

it was a well known gimmick of Hitch's, don't think i've seen that poster before tho

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 April 2012 13:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

IIRC that gimmick was used with Psycho only, because it was advertised as a Janet Leigh movie, and Hitchcock was afraid that people turning in late might miss her part of the movie.

Tuomas, Monday, 23 April 2012 11:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

it's amazing how they made the bold creative decision to make it into three movies. really makes me excited for the results.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 13 December 2012 11:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

169 minutes! holy Christ.

piscesx, Thursday, 13 December 2012 11:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

All too many other potentially great movies, from Titanic to Out of Africa

stopped reading here

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 13 December 2012 11:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha

piscesx, Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

This IS 40; 133 minutes for a comedy.

piscesx, Saturday, 16 February 2013 16:37 (1 year ago) Permalink


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