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i really really like that romeo void EP too. they are too underrated/underplayed as far as i'm concerned. people know the two big songs, but they had lots of great stuff. they should be bigger in neo-post-punk circles.

scott seward, Monday, 27 December 2010 16:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

and everything by human sexual response is worth owning!

scott seward, Monday, 27 December 2010 16:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

and as far as crabby appleton go i actually prefer the two post-crabby albums that singer michael fennelly put out after crabby bit the dust. lane changer and stranger's bed. if you see those for a buck get them. really good hard rock/rock/pop stuff. fennelly worked with curt boettcher and was a part of Millennium. (the fennelly albums are kinda slept on. they are medium-hard to find. they didn't sell at all. ebay probably has cheap copies.)

scott seward, Monday, 27 December 2010 16:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

capitol put out latter-day (late-70's and maybe even early 80's) vinyl reissues of mongrel and ramblin' gamblin' after bob hit it big, so you can find really clean copies if you are lucky. i'm sure there were night moves fans who bought them in a seger-loving frenzy and then didn't play them much. even the later pressings ended up going in the cut-out bins.

scott seward, Monday, 27 December 2010 16:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

Just played Human Sexual Response -- They strike me as pretty awful, as a hint of pale and emaciated indie nerd-dom that's about one-tenth as clever as it thinks it is to come, but I kind of enjoyed it despite itself. A few songs definitely sounded familiar, 30 years later. Four different singers, apparently. There's one guy whose voice reminds me of...Tom Verlaine? Peter Hammil? Peter Gabriel? Somebody. Liked the Hello People album, which was more rock than I expected, way more than HSR, though. Adrian Belew 10-inch was just an excuse to make guitar noises. He makes better noises in his cat song, but I like that his rhino song is about an endangered species.

And oh yeah, turns out that Kids LP (which I haven't played yet) is in both Popoff's and Jasper/Oliver's books, filed under H instead of K. They both like it a lot, seem to consider it the Heavy Metal Kids' peak. Popoff calls it the most ferocious glam rock record ever, or something like that. So I guess I got a good deal.

Playing the Romeo Void EP next. Christgau said when it came out that nobody would ever remember the other three cuts besides the hit. Betting he was right.

xhuxk, Monday, 27 December 2010 16:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

Catalog # on the copy of Mongrel I got is ST-499, which oddly isn't listed among the five vinyl versions on discogs. But they do list a 1977 reissue as SM-499. So I was thinking that maybe that's a typo. But if you google ST-499, you get a few sites claiming that's the original 1970 pressing; not sure what's right.

xhuxk, Monday, 27 December 2010 16:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

i prefer in a roman mood by human sexual response cuz its got land of the glass pinecones on it which i love, but i like fig. 14 as well. they were nerds but i always thought they were charming nerds. as far as boston nerds go scruffy the cat were a more dire harbinger of things to come.

scott seward, Monday, 27 December 2010 17:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 of th original humansexresponserrs live in hudson..a few yrs back they did a full on reunion show in town and i was jizzazzled at th sight of a nontet of 55-60 yr olders makin like coked up teens..they pulled it off w sweat and groin pulls,,but altogether incredible..brought th lesser stuff to a boil and th boily stuff to a volcano...seek out th yutoob videos of th yoredom..so fukkin ahead they were...and they r nice doods tooo...

danbunny, Monday, 27 December 2010 17:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

Guess I just wish (on their debut anyway) they had Romeo Void's rhythm section. (Honestly, that is one embarrassingly stiff-butted "Cool Jerk" cover!) But I haven't given up on the album yet -- and yeah, it's kind of charming, and if I ever see the second LP for a buck, I'll probably pick that up, too. (Btw, was going to also say that I wish Romeo Void had Human Sexual Responses's melodies, but turns out Xgau was wrong. The fourth/last song on their EP, "Not Safe," sounds totally familiar. And it's good, too.)

xhuxk, Monday, 27 December 2010 17:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

i always thought i should embrace th anti lead singer look iyall had..im a fan of th fashion underdog..she showed me though..abortion pop is cute too

danbunny, Monday, 27 December 2010 17:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

and...th humans stuff is stiff compared to th live stuff...if u could see where all of it sprang from..early to mid 70s acid gobbling long haired puppeteers in th woods having rave ups w generators outskirting crap boston..ehh,...

danbunny, Monday, 27 December 2010 17:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

chuck were you a fan of Christmas? speaking of boston nerds.

scott seward, Monday, 27 December 2010 17:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

always thought that human sexual response were in the same ballpark as stuff like suburban lawns. or maybe the waitresses. art school nerds? people inspired by the B-52s? always wondered what bands like that were listening to at the end of the 70's. what was pylon listening to?

scott seward, Monday, 27 December 2010 17:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

danbunny, Monday, 27 December 2010 17:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

the drummer was later in sugar. so maybe you are right about members of the band helping to create future blandness. but i really think you should just blame bob mould for that:

Malcolm Travis (born 15 Feb 1953) is an American drummer from Boston, Massachusetts, best known for his work with Human Sexual Response,[1] The Zulus, Sugar (with Bob Mould and David Barbe),[2] No Man (with Roger Miller), and Kustomized (with Peter Prescott).

scott seward, Monday, 27 December 2010 17:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

Waitresses and B-52s were a whole lot funkier/dancier than HSR though (at least on this LP, but will definitely check that live clip.)

I never really gave Christmas the time they might've deserved, to be honest. What I heard never did much for me.

Liking this Book Of Lies EP. Same general boy/girl post-punk category as fellow '80s indie Chicago-ans Bohemia and Da! Exclamation Point, more or less (which isn't far from Romeo Void's category.) Plus it's cool they start with a song about writing the book of lies not too long after I just heard Hello People cover "Book Of Love."

the drummer was later in sugar.

Bleh.

xhuxk, Monday, 27 December 2010 17:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

don't think i ever heard zulus or no man or kustomized. i'm not a big mission of burma guy. i did buy one volcano suns record in the 80's. and i've actually heard very little sugar. kind of avoided mould all together since candy apple grey.

scott seward, Monday, 27 December 2010 17:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

I would say HSR strike me as more arch/arty/angular than Sugar, though. Also funnier. (Not that I've listened to Sugar for years, to be fair.)

Mission Of Burma peaked with their first single and first EP. The rest I never cared much about.

xhuxk, Monday, 27 December 2010 17:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oddly enough, there's an obscure-ish Christmas song called "My Little Book of Lies."

dlp9001, Monday, 27 December 2010 17:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

i had the first christmas album on tape. i liked it back then okay. don't know about now. they were definitely quirky nerds.

scott seward, Monday, 27 December 2010 17:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

I've always really liked their first one, not quite as fond of what followed. Sad to see Comic Book Heroes not getting love. Got way, way into it this year, as my son became a big fan of Rick's Saturday morning cartoon from around the same time, Mission Magic.

It's probably more for Paul McCartney fans, or maybe earlier Bowie. The lyrics are mostly terrible, but really great songwriting and surprisingly great guitar and production. Wouldn't have expected it based on his earlier and later stuff.

dlp9001, Monday, 27 December 2010 17:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

...that ended up as Combustible Edison. (xpost)

still wonder about why the PTV-parody of the 'Ultraprophets of the Psychick Revolution' cover? (which PTV3 itself parodied/sampled in the 'Hell Is Invisible... Heaven Is Her/e' band photos). always struck me as a weird/obscure thing to goof on, maybe Boston was overrun with Psychic Youth or Sleep Chamber pissed them off or somethin

Mangrove Earthshoe (herb albert), Monday, 27 December 2010 18:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

great songwriting and surprisingly great guitar and production. Wouldn't have expected it based on his earlier and later stuff.

Actually, lots of Springfield's later stuff had all these things -- especially the two albums he put out in the '00s, which are probably the two best I've ever heard by him. And I can't think of a single other veteran artist I'd say that about.

xhuxk, Monday, 27 December 2010 18:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

I should have been more clear: I like his earlier and later stuff too, but wouldn't have expected CBH to sound the way it does based on most of his other albums.

dlp9001, Monday, 27 December 2010 18:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

Maybe it's out there, but there ought to be a book/feature on the longevity of the 60's Aussies: Bee Gees, but also Springfield and Steve Kipner (and probably others I'm not thinking of). They kind of kept on going and adapting much longer than a lot of the UK folk.

dlp9001, Monday, 27 December 2010 18:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

S1 each, Breakaway today (good day for 1984 EPs by wacky ladies)

Black Uhuru Darkness (Island UK 10-inch EP 1982)
Julie Brown Goddess In Progress (Rhino EP 1984)
Andrae Crouch and the Disciples Keep On Singin' (Light Records out of Waco TX, early '70s I guess?)
John Hiatt Two Bit Monsters (MCA 1980)
Slave Stone Jam (Cotillion 1980)
Pat Wilson Bop Girl (Warner Bros. EP 1984)

xhuxk, Saturday, 8 January 2011 20:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

found some good stuff in NYC bargain bins last week -- nurse with wound, madlib, mars, heavy winged, black devil, emeralds euro tour CD

ilxor this could be a standout thread for you imo (ilxor), Saturday, 8 January 2011 20:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

Got Kate Bush's "The Dreaming" on vinyl, battered to hell but so psyched

but it was actually $4 :|

heh (kelpolaris), Saturday, 8 January 2011 20:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

head in bristol (virgin > zavvi > head) are having a clearout.

so far its been rather good

99p each :

fluke - six wheels on my wagon
the grid - 4,5,6

sergio mendes & brazil 66 - the very best
ray charles - the great ray charles
the presets - apocalypso
van she - v
nicole atkins - neptune city
cazals - what of our future

& some excellent fania reissues :

louie ramirez - ali baba
the joe cuba sextet - wanted dead of alive
justo betancourt - leguleya no
various - our latin thing (vol. 3)

mark e, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 09:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

always wondered what bands like that were listening to at the end of the 70's. what was pylon listening to?

― scott seward, Monday, December 27, 2010 5:28 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark

I've seen Beefheart mentioned by almost every art-school-rock type who ever existed. According to the book Party Out Of Bounds The B-52's liked Martha and the Vandellas, Yma Sumac and Pygmy music. (I can hear all 3!)

Pylon's guitarist and bassist envisioned the music being repetitious and mechanical like Kraftwerk, but then the drummer and Vanessa joined and that took things in a different direction. I think Gang of 4 became a pretty obvious influence after Pylon gigged with them.

I saw Human Sexual Response in a tiny club in the early 80s and they were godhead. I still love both LPs, but they don't really capture the live experience.

Glorified Lolcat (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 15:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

$1 each on CD (some of these are going up on eBay after i listen to them once or twice, but hey)

abe vigoda - reviver
davenport - rabbit's foot propeller
michael jackson - thriller
moonshake - the sound your eyes can follow
secret machines - ten silver drops <<< loved this album back in 2006, no idea why
seefeel - quique redux
system of a down - s/t + bonus disc

ilxor, Saturday, 15 January 2011 00:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

NICE on that seefeel.

Gay for Johnny Moped (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 15 January 2011 05:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

Moonshake is a bin staple.

I will always think of you, while (quite) fondly, myself (Evan), Saturday, 15 January 2011 06:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

scarce edinburgh post punk for a quid in morningside oxfam

http://www.discogs.com/Metropak-Youre-A-Rebel-OK-Lets-Go-Run-Run-Run/release/1308814

signed by the bassist ... "To Phil (my mentor) love Bruce Banner"

doubly satisfying as the pricing in this shop is uniformly ridiculous

out comes stanley, Saturday, 15 January 2011 14:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

$1 Each, Waterloo Records and End Of An Ear, today

DNA DNA (Boardwalk 1983 -- not the Arto Lindsay no wavers or Suzanne Vega's dance-music pals; Rick Derringer and Carmine Appice making an apparent new wave move, judging from the cover, with mad-scientist lab coats and plenty of credited synthesizers)
Millie Jackson & Isaac Hayes Royal Rappin's (Spring 1979 - same year as "Rapper's Delight," plus they cover a Foreigner song!)
Persuasions Chirpin' (Elektra 1977 -- supposed to be one of their best ones, I think?)
Ramatam Ramatam (Atlantic 1972 -- hard rock with Mitch Mitchell on drums and April Lawton on guitar)
Sniff 'N' The Tears Love Action (MCA 1981 -- I now own three LPs by them!)
Streetheart Drugstore Dancer (Capitol 1980 -- I now own three LPs by them, too!)
Timbuk 3 Greetings From Timbuk 3 (IRS 1986 -- with their hit obviously)
Pat Travers Band Live! Go For What You Know (Polydor 1979 -- with "Boom Boom Out Go The Lights")
Urban Guerillas Darwin's Theory Of Pelvic Revolution (Camouflage 1983 -- post-punky looking Minnesotans I never heard of before)

xhuxk, Monday, 17 January 2011 00:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oops, actually that DNA LP is called Party Tested, and they cover "Rock and Roll Part II" on it.

xhuxk, Monday, 17 January 2011 00:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

love that ramatam so much. but i think you already know that.

scott seward, Monday, 17 January 2011 02:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

xhuxk, i was at end of an ear on... friday i think? only bought one thing for $1 -- kyuss' album w/ the purple cover -- great record

ilxor, Monday, 17 January 2011 19:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

I only bought that Urban Guerillas thing there yesterday, actually -- Though last time, just a few weeks ago, I brought home a big pile. Probably only makes sense to go there every few months, since if you get more than 20 $1 LPs at a time, they reduce them all to 50 cents each!

xhuxk, Monday, 17 January 2011 19:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

i'm more of a cd guy -- i've found that any more frequent than once every 4-6 weeks or so, and used cd inventory's not fresh enough to make it worth my time to dig through all the used bins

ilxor, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 17:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

$1/ea. LPs, Breakaway today:

Foxy Hot Numbers (Dash 1979)
Steve Gibbons Band Live -- Caught In The Act (MCA 1977)
Glenn Jones Glenn Jones (Jive 1987)
Sister Sledge Circle Of Love (Atco 1975)

$1/ea. CDs, Episcopal church thrift store on Justin

Fiji Mariners Featuring Col. Bruce Hampton (Capricorn 1996)
Westbam The Roof Is On Fire (Sax/TSR 1991)

25-cents/ea. cassettes, Goodwill bookstore on Far West Blvd.

The Beatles The Beatles Again (Pathe Marconi/EMI 1974 -- weird French compilation I never heard of before, but I'm no expert)
Nina Hagen Unbehagen (CBS Schallplatten Germany 1979 -- oops, just noticed I already have this on vinyl w/ different cover art)
Payola$ Hammer On A Drum (A&M 1983)
2 Unlimited Get Ready (Critique 1992)

xhuxk, Saturday, 5 February 2011 21:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

stuff i bought for a dollar last weekend at an antique/junk store. posted on the vinyl board, but what the heck:

comateens - s/t (needed this. the comateens were nice enough to send me a copy of the reissue on cd when they put it out, but i needed the vinyl. think i have everything they did on vinyl now. or almost everything.)

navarro - straight to the heart (on capitol. 1978. have no idea. like the cover.)

dwight twilley - twilley (needed this too. want all twilley vinyl. have most of it.)

bloodstone - don't stop!

sally oldfield - water bearer

jerry lacroix - the second coming (from 1974. another good cover. johnny winter is all over this album.)

wishbone ash - hot ash (um, probably don't need a live wishbone album from 1981, but it WAS only a dollar.)

wishbone ash - number the brave (what the heck, might as well be a wishbone completist. also from 1981.)

argent - counterpoints

rhythm heritage - last night on earth (think i actually might have this. or i did. whatever.)

the new ventures - rocky road

slade - in flame (i KNOW i had this, but i think i sold it? again, whatever.)

quicksilver - peace by piece (yes, a quicksilver album from 1986.)

ballinjack - special pride (so would you believe me if i told you that i was just thinking YESTERDAY that i didn't own any ballinjack albums? true story.)

martin mull - in the soup with martin mull (sealed even! on vanguard. 1974.)

john entwistle's ox - mad dog (never heard it!)

cerrone - cerrone's paradise

cerrone - V

dwight twilley - wild dogs (i know for a fact that i own this, but i just can't pass up dollar twilley vinyl.)

mark farner - s/t

mark farner band - no frills

scott seward, Saturday, 5 February 2011 21:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh and the quicksilver album should TOTALLY be on one of those fogey gone new wave threads. its really very new wave!

scott seward, Saturday, 5 February 2011 21:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

Pretty sure I now have a "complete set" (as baseball card collectors say) of the Steve Gibbons Band, fwiw -- four studio LPs, one live.

And yeah, I'm definitely no Beatles-comp expert. From Wiki:

Hey Jude (original title: The Beatles Again) is a 1970 collection of non-album Beatles singles and B-sides, as well as "I Should Have Known Better" and "Can't Buy Me Love", two singles released by Capitol Records whose only previous American album appearance had been on the A Hard Day's Night soundtrack album which had been released by United Artists Records...Originally, the album was to be named The Beatles Again. Shortly before the record was released, however, the title was changed to Hey Jude, in order to promote the inclusion of the top-selling song that led off side two. Unfortunately, the name-change occurred after the labels were printed, and an untold number of copies of the album were sold with Apple labels on the vinyl containing the title The Beatles Again. This was also true for cassette copies of the album, which retained the original title.

xhuxk, Saturday, 5 February 2011 22:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

Two more $1 LPs, Top Drawer Thrift today

Neil Sedaka The Hungry Years (The Rocket Record Company 1975 -- w/ great Elton John duet "Bad Blood")
Ellen Shipley Ellen Shipley (New York International 1979 - w/ Rick Derringer, Hall & Oates, G.E. Smith, etc.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 6 February 2011 01:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

$1 each Breakaway today

Andrae Crouch The Best (Arrival/K-Tel 1988 - songs copywritten 1971-1978)
Rockwell Somebody's Watching Me (Motown 1984 -- suspect this'll stink, but want to make sure)
Trapeze The Final Swing (Threshold 1973 - comp of tracks "featuring Glenn Hughes," fine since I own nothing else by them)
Howard Werth and the Moonbeams King Brilliant (The Rocket Record Company 1975 - never even heard of this band until yesterday, when I was skimming Scott's "bands who didn't...quite...fit" thread; can't be worse than the 1975 release on this label I bought two weeks ago {see above} which was mostly unbearable)

xhuxk, Saturday, 19 February 2011 20:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

oops, Crouch LP is called His Best, actually -- "Him" presumably being Crouch and not the guy he's worshipping

xhuxk, Saturday, 19 February 2011 20:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

king brilliant one of my favorite records. don't know what you will think of it. we shall see...

scott seward, Saturday, 19 February 2011 20:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

bought this for 25 c but hadnt realized it was the clean version. still a good deal tho

flopson, Saturday, 19 February 2011 20:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

What is it, like three seconds long?

Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 19 February 2011 20:30 (3 years ago) Permalink


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