the funny thing is that v.few ilm users do seem to think that - most of its more vocal defenders here still think it's a pretty flawed album, and not the kind of flaws that "make it good" or whatever. i'm not seeing the 10/10s and critical hosannas reflected here at all.
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Thursday, 23 December 2010 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe he means "users of the internet"
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 December 2010 10:50 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, that would make sense. though it's notable that ilm is so broadly out of step with that (a step ahead obv).
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Thursday, 23 December 2010 10:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Nicki Minaj on Monster ...damn. This album is good imo, but not the second coming some users seem to think it is.
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 23 December 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link
the "Use Your Illusion" comparisons upthread are really otm (tho there were alot more good songs on those albums)
― in my world of Hmong ppl (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 December 2010 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link
mmmmaybe, but the ratio's in kanye's favor
― contenderizer, Thursday, 23 December 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link
still haven't heard a note of this, every time I try to find a dl copy of it the file's been removed. lord knows I'm not giving Kanye any of my fucking money (Ghostface is another matter)
also can someone explain why something that is supposed to be so HUGE is not on MTV, like, at all?
― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 December 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
youtube is the new mtv.
― irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 23 December 2010 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link
eh I hate listening to shit on my computers speakers
― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 December 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
― irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Thursday, December 23, 2010 2:31 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Oh yeah, tell that to ubiquitous number one single "Fuck You" by Cee-Lo
― mmmm... yung hummus (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 December 2010 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link
bad romance has 322,826,092 views on YouTube
"Fuck You" does not, but that is not YouTube's fault
― markers, Thursday, 23 December 2010 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link
― mmmm... yung hummus (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 December 2010 23:30 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
was a #1 hit?
― irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Friday, 24 December 2010 06:37 (thirteen years ago) link
no
― J0rdan S., Friday, 24 December 2010 06:38 (thirteen years ago) link
oh sorry forgot america is the world. was a top ten hit.
― irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Friday, 24 December 2010 06:59 (thirteen years ago) link
haha i had no idea whiney intended for this to be sarcastic cuz it kinda WAS a ubiquitous no 1 hit
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Friday, 24 December 2010 09:17 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, the point being is that "YouTube sensation" doesn't always have a direct correlation with sales.
Also Kanye's on MTV all the time even if this album doesn't have a traditional "high rotation" video. At this point MTV needs Kanye more than Kanye needs MTV, tbh
― mmmm... yung hummus (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 24 December 2010 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link
jesus christ 'i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor)', if i ever get my hands on you i will goddamn choke you out with the nicki minaj verse on repeat.
― historyyy (prettylikealaindelon), Friday, 24 December 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link
kinky
― 69 65 51 46 (Ioannis), Friday, 24 December 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link
lol you called me by my full name O_O
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 24 December 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Unemployment line, credit card declineddid I not mention I was about to lose my mind?(my mind, my mind, my mind)and also was about to do that line
Address me as your highness, high as unitedThirty thousand feet up and you are not invitedniggas be writin bullshit like they gotta workniggas is goin through real shit man they outta workThat's why another goddamn dance track gotta hurt
Go harder than a n-gga for a n-gga go figuretold me "keep my own money" if we ever did split uphow can somethin' so gangsta be so pretty in pictures?with jeans and a blazer and some Louboutin slippersuh, Picasso was alive he woulda made herthats right n-gga Mona Lisa can't fade herI mean Marilyn Monroe, she's quite nicebut why all the pretty icons always all whiteback to my Beyonces
I've never heard anything so horrifying in rap music. Really.
― WJMK magic one oh four (u s steel), Saturday, 25 December 2010 09:19 (thirteen years ago) link
it's probably a good thing that you don't listen to rap music then
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 25 December 2010 10:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Listening to this in my new Sennheiser HD555 surround-sound audiophine headphones that I got for xmas and all I can say is
((((d-_-b))))
― kenny noggins (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 25 December 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm lost in the world
― kenny noggins (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 25 December 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Good 5 U
― ARP 2600 vs. Atari 2600 (Ówen P.), Saturday, 25 December 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link
'so appalled' is the first track on this that I kinda like. smdh.
― acoleuthic, Saturday, 25 December 2010 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link
this album repulses a certain sensibility I have - it's too content to find bombast and maximalist profundity through extremely basic and overstuffed tropes which aren't even original or sophisticated, just exaggerated
and y'all buying it
basically,
so appalled >>>>>> runaway > the first half of monster before it goes on too long >>> hell of a life >>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest >>>>>>>> gay dad >>>>>>>> blame game
and so appalled is nothing more than a decent song
peace, this was always gonna have to happen at some point, out of our system now
― acoleuthic, Saturday, 25 December 2010 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link
the first half of monster before it goes on too long
WRONG HALF
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Saturday, 25 December 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link
okok minaj's bit is cool. needed editing down tho so it was basically 2 mins of kanye + 2 mins of her and then over
― acoleuthic, Saturday, 25 December 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link
not repping for Ross on 'Monster' is like instant SB in goontown
― kenny noggins (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 25 December 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah whatta couplet
― schlump, Saturday, 25 December 2010 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link
lj i don't know who you are getting angry at here, most ilxors, esp. the goons, don't like this or just think its ok.
― irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 25 December 2010 20:43 (thirteen years ago) link
it's too content to find bombast and maximalist profundity through extremely basic and overstuffed tropes which aren't even original or sophisticated, just exaggerated
don't you listen to like Opeth?
― kenny noggins (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 25 December 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link
lj could not have gotten that any ronger
― k3vin k., Saturday, 25 December 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Opeth are usually wayyyyy too plodding and unimaginative for my tastes tbf, a coupla good songs
Am not angry, really - just frustrated at the ever-blinkered critical hivemind, and maybe a LITTLE at ILX - check the number of posts in this thread, and the number of posts in the Third Eye Foundation thread. And that's an album that ILX has actually deigned to discuss!
― acoleuthic, Saturday, 25 December 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link
as much as i wish albums i liked from this year would get attention instead of kanye, i wouldn't wish this particular thread on any of em
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Saturday, 25 December 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link
wait ppl rep for the ross verse on monster? even though he rhymes "sample" with "sample"
― dayo, Sunday, 26 December 2010 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link
i thought he was rhyming "sample" with "example"
― illiterate and hateful, as expected (reddening), Monday, 27 December 2010 08:41 (thirteen years ago) link
he does rhyme "sample" with "example"
― in my world of yung joc (The Reverend), Monday, 27 December 2010 09:41 (thirteen years ago) link
i deny you, lj, for not getting the hugeness of "power" and "lost in the world", or for thinking that it's the wrong kind of hugeness or whatever. not gonna try to say that it's a great album overall, cuz it ain't, but shit man, "so appalled" is hardly the scale attained. no more drugs for me, pussy and religion is all i need.
― contenderizer, Monday, 27 December 2010 09:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Billboard article about the album's big drop down the charts (but doesn't make the obvious connection about the lack of huge singles previous Kanye albums had): http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/industry/retail/why-have-sales-of-kanye-west-s-my-beautiful-1004137168.story
― some dude, Monday, 27 December 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't need yo' pussy bitch i'm on my OWN DICK
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Monday, 27 December 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYgIp06nFh4#t=01m33s
― nog it out with (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 27 December 2010 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link
1:33
surround sound audiophile headphones lol
― in my world of Hmong ppl (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 December 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link
"monster" video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKTtfwYqyd4
so nearly amazing but not quite there. feels way too static. as with the song the nicki section's all you really need, that actually is a bit whoa, though it really should've ended with her beheading herself or something a bit more dramatic
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Thursday, 30 December 2010 11:01 (thirteen years ago) link
2:27 in that video there's a picture of a cloudy sky + moon + GETTY IMAGES logo??
― illiterate and hateful, as expected (reddening), Thursday, 30 December 2010 11:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i wonder if this is the final cut -- i doubt at least that kanye is putting out a video where one shot has a getty images watermark on it
― a snooki and a killer (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 30 December 2010 11:19 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah exactly
assuming this is pretty much the real thing it's not amazing or anything but i'm glad that someone is doing something on the "put your hands where my eyes can see" tip
nicki's part is great tho
― a snooki and a killer (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 30 December 2010 11:20 (thirteen years ago) link
i imagine jay showing up to this shoot and being all
http://i42.tinypic.com/zoezyx.jpg
― a snooki and a killer (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 30 December 2010 11:24 (thirteen years ago) link