and if they do get to Opening Night, they will almost surely be lambasted by Ben Brantley, who isn't quite powerful enough to kill a show with his pen like his predecessors, but well can weaken it significantly nonetheless.
― Bitch, it cold outside!!! BURR (San Te), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link
they've made a million a week in previews!
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link
and there's already been attrition and people running to other projects; doesn't seem to have deterred the thing from stumbling on
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost I know, but that isn't necessarily a predictor of long-term success. Experts are already predicting that Spidy would have to run for years to even begin to make a profit, and that's a tough fate no matter what type of show you are.
Critically panned crap has succeeded before (hello Mamma Mia), but it didn't begin its run with a sea of controversy like this either. Nor did Wicked. I don't think this show could run for years, there's too many x-factors, such as the safety concerns, and the fact that people are pointing out that beyond the spectacle, it's a pretty terrible show that even many Spidy fanboys are trashing.
― Bitch, it cold outside!!! BURR (San Te), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link
ie, the general public isn't even liking what they're seeing.
― Bitch, it cold outside!!! BURR (San Te), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link
The spokesman, Rick Miramontez, categorically denied a media report that “Spider-Man” had been shut down indefinitely. “Absolutely false,” Mr. Miramontez said shortly after 5 p.m. on Wednesday. “The performance is on for tomorrow night.”
Rick "Several Feet" Miramontez
― would like a calmer set (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link
regarding the attrition, some attrition doesn't hurt because they have understudies, but if a significant number of principals walk at the same time, it could have a devastating effect and might require more cancellations. also worth noting is that they are now in previews, whereas much of the aforementioned attrition happened before that stage.
― Bitch, it cold outside!!! BURR (San Te), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Surely, though, with most of the money now spent, they'd keep it running as long as they could not to make a profit, but to diminish the losses
― buildings with goats on the roof (James Morrison), Thursday, 23 December 2010 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link
But, you know, fuck this show anyway
― buildings with goats on the roof (James Morrison), Thursday, 23 December 2010 00:12 (thirteen years ago) link
You know if they keep up this controversy then they can just keep doing disastrous sell out shows to NYC audiences who want to go and see if anything crazy will happen tonight that they can blog about.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 23 December 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link
two years from now it will be revealed that this was the masterplan all along
― Bitch, it cold outside!!! BURR (San Te), Thursday, 23 December 2010 02:25 (thirteen years ago) link
The lead with the concussion is reportedly leaving the show
― would like a calmer set (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
On Sunday, Ms. Mendoza wrote on her Facebook page that she was grateful to be down to two nausea tablets and four painkillers per day to cope with her concussion.
Looks like Taymor cancelled a public interview. Because she's so busy, LOL. At least they're offering refunds to that.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link
March 15th now.http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/14/nyregion/14spiderman.html?hp
― From the novel "Spinster Dinner" (forksclovetofu), Friday, 14 January 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Over a year late!
― From the novel "Spinster Dinner" (forksclovetofu), Friday, 14 January 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704803604576077940743813136.html
One key element the show is still hammering out: the ending. Producers intend to replace the $65 million show's temporary finale—a scrim unfurling to reveal an image of Spider-Man—with a more elaborate scene, Mr. Cohl said. "The actual ending that we have planned is still not in the show," he said. "Nobody's seen it—including us, by the way."
― da croupier, Friday, 14 January 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link
How can you say shit like that while charging full price for tickets
cuz it's America 2011?
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 January 2011 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link
see New Yorker cover, btw
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 January 2011 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link
This may the first Broadway production to make record money during its previews and then flop when it goes live. Assuming they ever land that pesky, elusive ending, that is. Might I suggest lighting the cast on fire? It worked for Metallica.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 January 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link
not really thinking this will ever open
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 January 2011 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Waiting for Doc Ock
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 January 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Taymor should try her hand at a musical adaptation of "The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie" next.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 January 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
wld be great if it turned out steve ditko was carrying out a phantom-of-the-opera-like vendetta against this
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 14 January 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ESC4bygtp2M/SHxxLB7wVII/AAAAAAAAEE8/cn7ug6kRKdc/s400/Ditko+Mr+A+Laughs+witz4p8pn2.jpg
― From the novel "Spinster Dinner" (forksclovetofu), Friday, 14 January 2011 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link
they should announce new untested scenes every so many weeks, the way other shows have "8 weeks only!" stuntcasting
― da croupier, Friday, 14 January 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link
or combine the two. "Bono to be flung across stage until April 13th!"
U2 must be scrambling to make a new album to release a month after this opens/closes.
― like launch the globs and strands (Eazy), Friday, 14 January 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link
lol @forks
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 14 January 2011 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage/2011/jan/26/spider-man-musical
― piscesx, Thursday, 27 January 2011 02:08 (thirteen years ago) link
against the producers' wishes, all the NY papers have run reviews today...so, it officially stinks.
http://theater.nytimes.com/2011/02/08/theater/reviews/spiderman-review.html?hp
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago) link
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/02/08/arts/jp-theater/jp-theater-popup.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link
There is also the Geek Chorus (Gideon Glick, Jonathan Schwartz, Mat Devine, Alice Lee), a quartet of adolescent comic-book devotees, who would appear to be either creating or commenting on the plot, but in any case serve only to obscure it even further. They discuss the heady philosophical implications of Spider-Man’s identity while making jokes in which the notion of free will is confused with the plot of the movie “Free Willy.”
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Good for the papers, fuck the producers trying to tell them to wait.
It's not their fault the opening has been delayed so many times...besides, you're charging full price for tickets, fans deserve to have a professional opinion to guide them.
So glad Brantley did this one, he has a knack for insulting duck shows.
― door to door legume salesman (San Te), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Also gates/capacity has been on the decline for Spidy too.
While the NYT doesn't carry the weight it once did with the theatre community, this review will do damage, and to that I say...good.
Give these actors Purple Hearts, a hefty severance package, and free them from career suicide...save that for the production team!
― door to door legume salesman (San Te), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago) link
My guess would be that the critics community didn't care for the way this idiot enterprise was becoming the face of Broadway, and after the endless postponements they united to hasten its demise. LIKE SUPERHEROES!
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Be great if they updated their marquee with the one rave review they've received so far...from Glenn Beck.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Loved that Ben Brantley review, particularly this Luther Ingram moment:
Because only when things go wrong in this production does it feel remotely right
― Borad Brains (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link
"The songs by Bono and the Edge ... blur into a sustained electronic twang of varying volume, increasing and decreasing in intensity, like a persistent headache."
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link
So how is that different from... oh, never mind.
― T.V.O.D Party (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Sounds like the best stuff they've done in years
― Tom D (Lenin's his feir and Liebknecht's his mate) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link
A roundup:
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/08/spider-man-turns-off-the-critics/?ref=arts
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Backhanded disclaimer:
The choreography took some thumps, and the flying sequences did not particularly wow the critics (all of whom, it’s perhaps worth noting, are adults).
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, what about the child reviewers? and the idiots? why don't we let the idiots review this?
― الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNkYQvV5w6g&feature=player_embedded#
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8910/image0gq.jpgWho do I shot to get out of this production?
― T.V.O.D. Party (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Same guy:
http://www.youtube.com/user/petermmarino#p/a/u/0/dPH7vZ3Rev8
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
^hilarious review quotes in less than a minute.
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/20/whats-not-to-love-jackie-mason-waits-for-spider-man-to-break-his-dubious-record/
― T.V.O.D. Party (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link
This damn show was simply using up all of Broadway's oxygen.
Now, maybe people will start talking about The Book of Mormon, which may be great or may suck, but at least won't be an overproduced fiasco.
― Dodo Lurker (Slim and Slam), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 05:44 (thirteen years ago) link