Er, maybe the scene was just symbolic, you know? It's not like the movie implied in any way that he forced anyone to come there, so it seems kinda pointless to point out that oh no, maybe this scene in a allegorical sci-fi movie wasn't altogether realistic in terms of the logistics.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 13:51 (5 years ago) Permalink
let go
― aldo, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 13:54 (5 years ago) Permalink
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35862
― Gukbe, Thursday, 6 March 2008 06:35 (5 years ago) Permalink
Nite Owl looks pretty good but Veidt too obviously 'evil' maybe? It's all looking v Batmanny.
― blueski, Thursday, 6 March 2008 13:25 (5 years ago) Permalink
Comedian and Rorscach are good. Bit iffy on the others.
― chap, Thursday, 6 March 2008 13:26 (5 years ago) Permalink
I think these new suits are way too cool... And too "Batmanny" indeed. In the comic the suits were sorta intentionally silly, to emphasize the silliness of the whole idea of dressing in one.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 6 March 2008 13:35 (5 years ago) Permalink
RIP Nite Owl beergut
― blueski, Thursday, 6 March 2008 13:43 (5 years ago) Permalink
I think it would have been kind of impossible to pull off the silly suits in the flick. Hopefully they'll be sketching out the characters well enough to make it work anyway.
Morgan as Comedian looks perfect.
Also I think some of these pics are the young, "glory days" versions of the characters.
― Simon H., Thursday, 6 March 2008 13:47 (5 years ago) Permalink
I like the Nite Owl and Comedian - although the Nite Owl one kinda beats you over the head with who he's supposed to remind the audience of. The Rorschach is, well, just Rorschach really; it would have been hard to mess that one up.
The Veidt one just screams Bad Guy; which is a major mistake if you ask me. Just because it's a comic book movie doesn't mean the studio/writers/director has to assume that the typical viewer is going to be a drooling idiot.
― Stone Monkey, Thursday, 6 March 2008 14:00 (5 years ago) Permalink
I guess they're still trying to figure out Dr Manhattan
― blueski, Thursday, 6 March 2008 14:01 (5 years ago) Permalink
I think it may just be the lighting in that picture though, because there's an element of "All American boy" superhero to Veidt.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 6 March 2008 14:06 (5 years ago) Permalink
Looks OK to me, maybe a little too grungy and dark™ for me. Liked the bright colours and clean lines of the original.
― Bodrick III, Thursday, 6 March 2008 15:08 (5 years ago) Permalink
What he said.
― Dr. Superman, Friday, 7 March 2008 06:13 (5 years ago) Permalink
OH SHI
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 7 March 2008 06:18 (5 years ago) Permalink
Veidt doesn't look gay enough.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 7 March 2008 13:10 (5 years ago) Permalink
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 15 March 2008 07:39 (5 years ago) Permalink
I think these new suits are way too cool... And too "Batmanny" indeed.
There was an interview with Snyder saying something to to the effect his intent with this is to be to superhero movies what the graphic novel was to its own medium.
― latebloomer, Saturday, 15 March 2008 07:44 (5 years ago) Permalink
doesn't mean it'll turn out well, of course.
― latebloomer, Saturday, 15 March 2008 07:45 (5 years ago) Permalink
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=43692
featurette about the building of the sets, if you're interested.
― latebloomer, Sunday, 6 April 2008 15:10 (5 years ago) Permalink
watchmen really gets better every time you read it. so does cerebus, but that's another thread.
― ian, Monday, 7 April 2008 03:01 (5 years ago) Permalink
> so does cerebus
...if you know when to stop.
― Oilyrags, Monday, 7 April 2008 12:33 (5 years ago) Permalink
yeah, book 7 is where i get off the boat. and that's later than some people.
― ian, Monday, 7 April 2008 15:04 (5 years ago) Permalink
I don't know which one book seven is, but I figure you're doing ok to quit at halftime (the end of Mothers and Daughters.) Yeah, the crazy anti-life voids bullshit starts there, but it still isn't the main focus of the book.
― Oilyrags, Monday, 7 April 2008 15:07 (5 years ago) Permalink
I think it's good up to book 10, if you ignore the text sections in 9. There are brilliant moments tucked a way amongst the mentalism all the way to the end, though.
xpost - yeh, like Oily said.
― chap, Monday, 7 April 2008 15:10 (5 years ago) Permalink
oops - just looked at wiki and I was confused. Yes, quit at halftime, but that's just the end of the first part of Mothers and Daughters, not the whole thing. And it's book seven! So we agree.
"Guys" is worth a look just for its formal invention, though. Plus teh funneee.
― Oilyrags, Monday, 7 April 2008 15:13 (5 years ago) Permalink
eggzie postie
Formal invention and occasional funnies are the main draw of the whole of the latter third.
― chap, Monday, 7 April 2008 15:18 (5 years ago) Permalink
Hahah! From Wiki:
The Roach, along with Fleagle McGrew and Dirty Drew McGrew, appeared in a Sim-penned story in the anthology title AARGH (Artists Against Rampant Government Homophobia). With the title-sized speech bubbles "Terror in a Turgid Tool!" and "By my Loins- Betrayed!" it indicated the Roach was homosexual.
Oh, the ironing.
― Oilyrags, Monday, 7 April 2008 15:30 (5 years ago) Permalink
http://www.joblo.com/video/player.php?video=Watchmen_480
― latebloomer, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 04:13 (5 years ago) Permalink
i thought that was gonna be a trailer... video journal? worth watching? is squirrel police in it?
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 06:07 (5 years ago) Permalink
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/26/business/media/26retail.html Key point: "The twist is that Mr. Snyder, known for turning the Spartan comic book series “300” into a global hit movie, is also directing a separate-but-related picture that Warner plans to distribute exclusively on DVD.
The second film, tentatively called “Tales of the Black Freighter,” follows a side “Watchmen” storyline about a shipwreck and will arrive in stores five days after the main movie rolls out in theaters. The DVD will also include a documentary-style film called “Under the Hood” that will delve into the characters’ backstories. "
― treefell, Monday, 26 May 2008 13:40 (5 years ago) Permalink
i always found the black freighter sections rather tedious, don't think i actually read the story until the third time i read the whole thing.
― jeremy waters, Monday, 26 May 2008 14:14 (5 years ago) Permalink
I thought the black freighter bit was the glue that held the thing together. What I got from the black freighter storyline was that that was also the storyline all the characters were following in the main story - most clearly Veidt, but also Rorschach and the others.
― AlanSmithee, Monday, 26 May 2008 20:09 (5 years ago) Permalink
yeah, sort of. all the plot points converging on this horrible truth.
― jeremy waters, Monday, 26 May 2008 20:14 (5 years ago) Permalink
Namely: raw seagulls are delicious!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 May 2008 20:15 (5 years ago) Permalink
kind of awesome that they're doing "under the hood"... the bits at the end of each issue were such an essential part of the story as a whole.
― s1ocki, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:27 (5 years ago) Permalink
I did have to coax myself into reading them but I am glad I did bcz they are key and good.
― Abbott, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:29 (5 years ago) Permalink
hope Veidt's still a dub reggae fan
― latebloomer, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:32 (5 years ago) Permalink
I HOPE IT HAS...KITTY!
p[urple kitty
― Abbott, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:34 (5 years ago) Permalink
I was always wondering, how long was Hollis Mason's book supposed to be? Because his whole life story and the story of the masked heroes seems to have been pretty much covered in the 15 pages included in the comic.
― Tuomas, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:35 (5 years ago) Permalink
Also, I've always wondered if Dreiberg's ornithological article in the later issue is supposed to be allegorical in the same sense the Black Freighter story is, or is it just supposed to illuminate his character?
― Tuomas, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:37 (5 years ago) Permalink
Maybe the rest of it is about vintage car repair?
― Abbott, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:37 (5 years ago) Permalink
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lol!! true
― s1ocki, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:38 (5 years ago) Permalink
OMG that ornithological article is IMO the most embarrassing part...such purple prose. And that kind of thing would never, ever show up in a peer-reviewed journal.
― Abbott, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:38 (5 years ago) Permalink
Haha, that would be awesome! Anyway, Mason turned out to be a good writer, didn't he? The scene in the beginning of the book with his boss and the fake boobs is just as touching as he imagines it to be.
(xx-post)
― Tuomas, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:39 (5 years ago) Permalink
Also he gets the Kitty Geniovese thing totally wrong.
― Abbott, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:39 (5 years ago) Permalink
The ornithological article is kinda weird, and doesn't really give that much of the sort of background information the other articles do, which is why I've thought there might be a deeper level to it. Or maybe I'm just reading too much into the Moore style of writing?
― Tuomas, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:41 (5 years ago) Permalink
I remember reading some Neil Gaiman interview where he says he sorta helped Moore write that article. They'd already become friends back then, and it turned out Moore didn't know too much about birds, so he asked Gaiman for help, and he sent Moore some books on ornithology or something. So maybe it really was just filler, since symmetry required every issue must end with an article, and he hadn't come up with anything important for that issue...
― Tuomas, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:45 (5 years ago) Permalink
"I'm into dancehall now."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:47 (5 years ago) Permalink
Moore has his ways with the music references, doesn't he? Has anyone else heard the recorded version of the song ("This Vicious Cabaret") V sings in V For Vendetta (it's not by Moore but some rock singer)? It's kinda disappointing.
― Tuomas, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:50 (5 years ago) Permalink