Hey Jazz Douchebags! Post a version or several of "Lonely Woman"

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The Bergman and Bowie versions didn't do that much for me. :(

It's not them, it's me. They would make great soundtrack music, but I've been in a phase where I'm not really feeling rhythmically free stuff.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

Great thread idea, though. I'm looking forward to grabbing the Haden/Motian cut.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

It's really good. First time I've ever heard Geri Allen.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

Diamanda Galás

Turangalila (Salvador), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:34 (8 years ago) Permalink

It's not them, it's me.

It sounds like you're breaking up with them.

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:43 (8 years ago) Permalink

> Great thread idea, though.

Thanks, I got a couple more around here, I think, that I'll post when I find 'em - Old and New Dreams for sure, maybe some others. I hope someone who has the Amon Duul and MJQ versions will post those, too.

Then maybe we can move on to some other standards!

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 01:24 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Giant Steps"!

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 01:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

yeah, while I'm a massive Takayanagi fan, I've never been overly fond of that Lonely Woman LP. It's an interesting side of him, another very welcome glimpse into the man, but ultimately not as hair-raising as his best stuff. Still, the track fulfilled the thread request..

ok, here's a better offering, the 8 Bold Souls version from their 1991 record Sideshow, their 2nd of three and in my opinion their best. I love all of them but was *slightly* disappointed in Last Option. still think Sideshow is where they really nailed things...

http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1J0VOIO7PVOIC0VIMV437R6TN8

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 06:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

I have the MJQ version but it's on LP. I've still never figured out how to digitize those darn things.

I'm hoping some kind soul will post the Brotzmann version, as I don't have that record and have never heard it.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 06:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

Is it totally presumptuous of me to post the original version? I've been enjoying everyone else's but feel like a leech. Just in case someone clicks on this thread by accident w/o knowing the original, here it is, the song that is probably responsible for getting me into jazz (this past weekend):

Ornette Coleman - Lonely Woman

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 07:01 (8 years ago) Permalink

Kronos does what they have to do

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 07:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

that's fuckin' crazy. nice!

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 07:33 (8 years ago) Permalink

There's a fantastic Peter Brötzmann version. But I can't find the CD.

Tobias Rapp (Tobias Rapp), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

This thread is awesome.

xavier mcshane (xave), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:59 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yes, yes it is. I only feel bad that I don't have another version to post.

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

I don't have any way of posting it, but Cruel Frederick did a standard-ish but very good version on their SST album "The Birth Of The Cruel" (I think it was that album, may've been the second one they did).

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

I just did a stroll around slsk... there are songs called "Lonely Woman" by Sarah Vaughn and Otomo Yoshihide, but they're not that song. Too bad, I was really drooling for versions by those two. I have a few others queued up.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

I love the 8 Bold Souls and Kronos versions. I like that 8BS have an arrangement and play the melody, and I like how the Kronos version is divided into 5 + 7.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

Damn, the 8BS version is long. I listened for like six minutes, said "yeah, that's nice" and then noticed it was fading out ten mintues later.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:40 (8 years ago) Permalink

Here's a version by the Double U:

http://s64.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=02SJAOYTN0UNH1CC9SB7H7OU3H

... and its accompanying remix by Glands of External Secretion:

http://s64.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0G2SCFMQPG3UH048LT0WORJOCN

... taken from their joint album on VHF records.

Excellent thread, by the way. A few months back I was thinking how great it would be to have a compilation of Lonely Womans, but I was too lazy and not enough of a douchebag to apply myself to it. It's good to have this thread doing the work for me.

Am I the only one who thinks that a version with someone throat singing the melody would be just about the raddest thing ever?

Bobby Peace (Bobby Peace), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 19:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

So it turns out the one by Pat Metheny from 1984 is the Horace Silver song. Which is funny, because it's Metheny with Charlie Haden and Billy Higgins, on an album with three other Ornette covers, just not "LW".

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 8 December 2005 03:44 (8 years ago) Permalink

Found my copy of the Old and New Dreams version

http://s64.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0WYTC3FRVQHEH0BYG7TE6BZKUF

for those not in the know, Old and New Dreams was a group consisting of Coleman's classic quartet with Dewey Redman instead of Ornette.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 8 December 2005 15:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

Nice. I like those last three versions.

Leaving off the Takayanagi version, the eleven that I have now add up to 79:42.

I really like the idea of Jazz Douchebags rolling series of threads for multiple versions. I'm changing my vote from "Giant Steps" to "Take the A Train," because there's a solo piano version by Sun Ra that I heard once, that completely blew my mind.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:44 (8 years ago) Permalink

I would enjoy a jazz douchebag thread for Caravan.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

The "Ask a Question" button is in the same place as ever, ya douchebags.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:49 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yeah yeah, just gauging preferences. It's not always about me, just most of the time.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

Honestly on this topic I'm real easy to please. Duke would be great. Trane would be great. Monk would be great. Cole Porter or Irving Berlin tune would be great. We gotta lotta options here, and there's no hurry.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:52 (8 years ago) Permalink

It's not always about me, just most of the time.

I can't say the same:

Hey Jazz Douchebags! Post a version or several of "Caravan"

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

I heart Jazz Douchebags.

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

Just found the Brötzmann CD. That's his take on "Lonely Woman":

http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1X4E9OM10BXBH287X24ORK5V19

Tobias Rapp (Tobias Rapp), Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

Now that is a treat. What album is that on?

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

It's on "14 Love Poems Plus Ten More" (Free Music Productions). It's a rerelease of a LP from 1984, which was called "14 Love Poems" plus some outtakes.

Tobias Rapp (Tobias Rapp), Thursday, 8 December 2005 19:43 (8 years ago) Permalink

Having been on a totally non-jazz...ahem..."tip" for a few weeks this thread has just got me back in. Excellent work all round - this is what the internet is for obviously.

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Thursday, 8 December 2005 19:52 (8 years ago) Permalink

Awesome!! Thanks so much for posting the Brotz, Tobias!

Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 8 December 2005 20:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

This is somewhat different to the other versions and may well not be to jazz douchebags taste but I won't to contribute something (anything!) after getting so much out of this thread.

Ken Peplowski - Lonely Woman
http://s4.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0AQJ3FM4DB8C93DJZYAC6CYDVR

I'd also love to hear the MJQ version if anyone has it.

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Thursday, 8 December 2005 23:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

that should be "all jazz douchebags taste" and "wanted to contribute".
it's quite late here.

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Thursday, 8 December 2005 23:18 (8 years ago) Permalink

Naked City version...

http://s65.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0FA4RI2I51SWX0IVKZKG1OV3D5

mcd (mcd), Friday, 9 December 2005 01:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

Is Brotz playing a bari on that tune?! Awesome.

mcd (mcd), Friday, 9 December 2005 01:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

I like the Peplowski version, I think.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Friday, 9 December 2005 01:33 (8 years ago) Permalink

It's good.

mcd (mcd), Friday, 9 December 2005 01:43 (8 years ago) Permalink

I've listened to it four times now -- I think it's a case of admiring the arrangement more than actually liking it. He doesn't bite off more than he can chew, but he bites off an awfully big chunk, and it's sort of amazing to sit and listen to him chew it.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Friday, 9 December 2005 01:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

The Amon Duul II Version. Sorry about the sound quality.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 9 December 2005 02:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

Quest - "Lonely Woman"

Dave Liebman, flute
Richie Beirach, piano
George Mraz, bass
Al Foster, drums

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Friday, 9 December 2005 03:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

I found the version of the Modern Jazz Quartet:

http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1UXJ0370OIFSE3HNXVSPTWSRBB

Tobias Rapp (Tobias Rapp), Friday, 9 December 2005 19:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

The Otomo Yoshihide track is his interpretation of the Ornette track (yeah it's hard for me to hear too):

http://s63.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3H1MM4GYZ1HVM0I9TEZT1FSOAO

Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 10 December 2005 04:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

Helen Merrill, 1968

todd (todd), Saturday, 10 December 2005 05:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

.ogg??!!? WTF? (yes, I have heard of ogg and vorbis and ogg vorbis, but I don't know what to do with them)

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Saturday, 10 December 2005 05:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

It's just another lossy compression format. Google "ogg vorbis player" and bob's your uncle, or however the saying goes. I use Whamb.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 10 December 2005 05:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

there's a cool version on Jacques Berrocal's "Catalogue"..

Russell (Russell), Saturday, 10 December 2005 05:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the MJQ Tobias - very nice...gotta love those vibes...

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Saturday, 10 December 2005 12:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

In fact that whole album looks worth a listen...

And looks great too...

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Saturday, 10 December 2005 12:24 (8 years ago) Permalink

otomo yoshihide's new jazz quintet w/ sachiko m

http://s4.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=13WE9QZS6J82P23L6RV5F9SYBF

dan (dan), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 22:02 (8 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

Hello, douchebags. The Billy Bang/Dennis Charles version that Doug Schulkind just played is really good.

Rock Hardy, Friday, 11 April 2008 15:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

Sorry, meant to mention that it was on WFMU. They'll probably have the show up on the archive in a couple of hours.

Rock Hardy, Friday, 11 April 2008 15:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

Ahhh, the balmy ysi days of ILM, how I miss you.

Anyway, just relieved this thread still exists because I have been listening to the Peter Brotzmann version for days without knowing what who it was. Avaialble to listen to and buy here incidentally.
http://destination-out.bandcamp.com/album/14-love-poems-plus-10-more

Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 16 February 2012 11:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

cool, haven't heard that.
i love that mjq version. did they do any more of ornette's songs? i know john lewis was pretty heavy into his stuff.

tylerw, Thursday, 16 February 2012 15:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

There's a great version of it on Marzette Watts' hella out-of-print Savoy record.

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

I've decided that Ornette's Lonely Woman is my favourite piece of jazz music. Not a lot seems to come close - or does it? IS there anything else out there as melodic and plaintive and slightly-skewed as this? Big question, I know.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Thursday, 24 April 2014 11:41 (6 months ago) Permalink

IS there anything else out there as melodic and plaintive and slightly-skewed as this?

Yes, Cecil Taylor's version of "This Nearly Was Mine."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 24 April 2014 12:16 (6 months ago) Permalink

Eight years later, the Amon Duul version is on youtube if yer interested.

A Perfect Ratio of Choogle to Jam (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 24 April 2014 13:54 (6 months ago) Permalink


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