In the sense of insurmountable-object, maybe. But TFTO has the advantage of actually being good.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 17 October 2005 18:11 (7 years ago) Permalink
NO WAY.
― ddb (ddb), Monday, 17 October 2005 18:48 (7 years ago) Permalink
For my money, though, I still say Electric Wizard.
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 17 October 2005 18:59 (7 years ago) Permalink
― nancyboy (nancyboy), Monday, 17 October 2005 19:15 (7 years ago) Permalink
jumping more to the point: ***what is the best thing to listen to besides sleep to determine whether or not its worth it to hear more??****
― buyabiznatch (buyabiznatch), Monday, 17 October 2005 19:34 (7 years ago) Permalink
― amon (eman), Monday, 17 October 2005 22:03 (7 years ago) Permalink
i always enjoyed listening to it. I have no problem with the length. I'm kinda lazy, so I'm not big on getting up anyway. i was never fanatical enough to buy the later dopesmoker version though. i never cared for the first sleep album. that one bored me, not as good as st. vitus, etc. but, yeah, jerusalem is funny and cool and it is nice and heavy. great riffs. what's not to like? the latest high on fire, i think, is the best thing the dude has ever done. i didn't really like either of the other high on fire albums i had. just sold the first one on ebay with the 45 in it where they cover celtic frost. got all of 5 bucks for it. of course, the new HOF "sounds" great and the first two sounded horrible, so that might have something to do with it.
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 October 2005 22:28 (7 years ago) Permalink
― amon (eman), Monday, 17 October 2005 22:44 (7 years ago) Permalink
Speaking of Grief, buyabiznatch would probably like that band. Go for any of the albums on Pessimiser or Theologian, Torso probably first followed by And Man Shall Become the Hunted. That's slowed down drawn out riffing, recorded heavy with a vocalist who sounds like he has a torn throat. It's pretty monolithic and would have a high probability of appealing to fans of Dopesmoker. I listen to Grief way more often than Sleep.
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 17 October 2005 22:51 (7 years ago) Permalink
― God Body (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 17 October 2005 22:52 (7 years ago) Permalink
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:07 (7 years ago) Permalink
― amon (eman), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 00:36 (7 years ago) Permalink
― amon (eman), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 00:38 (7 years ago) Permalink
Cheesy's no obstacle to liking lots of forms of metal, or just about any other genre. I find very little entertainment that's actually cheese free. It's one of the fundamentals, like hydrogen on the periodic table.
I'm a fan of Trouble but my favorite albums are their last two -- Manic Frustration and Plastic Green Head. Right now, PGH is probably my fave. Their version of "The Porpoise Song" kills for incinerating wah'd guitar solo. Heavy psyche influence and Beatles/Monkees/Donovan love in late period Trouble.
Nebula was a highly regarded stoner rock band for awhile. Never was able to capitalize. Spirit Caravan catalog is good early (Jug Fulla Sun), falls apart toward the end. The Obsessed, another earlier Wino band was virtually identical. Hidden Hand is up and down. Did an album with Victor Griffin in Place of Skulls. Man, he does a lot of stuff.
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 02:53 (7 years ago) Permalink
― amon (eman), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 03:03 (7 years ago) Permalink
i already bought jerusalem so i ain't picking up dopesmoker unless'n i see it for cheap. but jerusalem's ok, i guess. holy mountain is way better - though i think the genius doesn't really kick in until the second half of the album - as is OM.
and as much as saying things are overrated is overrated, i tend to agree with roger about saint vitus these days. reagers period is best, though the wino era has some killer tunes here and there it's really in essence a compromise between the best of vitus and the best of the obsessed which makes a kind of boring muddle at times.
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 03:10 (7 years ago) Permalink
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 03:15 (7 years ago) Permalink
― |l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l| (eman), Friday, 3 February 2006 06:00 (7 years ago) Permalink
― trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 29 June 2006 15:45 (6 years ago) Permalink
― CDDB (Dan Deluca), Thursday, 29 June 2006 16:00 (6 years ago) Permalink
I would rather heat my liver with drinking.
― Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Thursday, 29 June 2006 16:11 (6 years ago) Permalink
holy mountain is fucking awesome
― HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 10 November 2008 07:27 (4 years ago) Permalink
fyfuckingi
So, anyone going to ATP: The Fans Strike Back, May 8-10 2009, where the reformed Sleep are playing Holy Mountain and selections from Dopesmoker & more...?
― krakow, Monday, 10 November 2008 08:17 (4 years ago) Permalink
oh shi
― HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 10 November 2008 14:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
I agree with whomever said Om is better above.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 10 November 2008 14:40 (4 years ago) Permalink
Wrong
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 10 November 2008 14:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
selections from dopesmoker?
― Alan N, Monday, 10 November 2008 14:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
I almost bought St. Vitus last night but was scared away by worries it would sound thin with no bottom end. Do they?
― national oracle BIG HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 10 November 2008 14:52 (4 years ago) Permalink
uh... no? i mean, which album?
― like burning a swan (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 10 November 2008 15:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
if it's the s/t it's pretty thick guitar-wise
both sonically and in technique
― like burning a swan (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 10 November 2008 15:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
i feel assured that there are dudes out there that shall never run out of riffs
― siskin/skulls, Monday, 10 November 2008 15:26 (4 years ago) Permalink
― like burning a swan (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, November 10, 2008 3:19 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark
I was looking at the live album (only one the store had) and thinking of the thrash I'm accustomed to that has nothin down there.
― national oracle BIG HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 10 November 2008 15:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
haven't heard that one, actually.
― like burning a swan (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 10 November 2008 15:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
the best thing sleep ever did was accompany those white trash kids prowling around their trailer park on their dirt bikes. their albums were tedious, meandering crap that were basically black sabbath remix records
― Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Monday, 10 November 2008 16:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
CHALLOPSIN
― like burning a swan (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 10 November 2008 16:56 (4 years ago) Permalink
Drop out of life with the bong in handFollow the smoke toward the Challopsian LandProceeds the Challopsian, Pantheism F. Mohair
― national oracle BIG HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 10 November 2008 17:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
mentalistx-posts
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 10 November 2008 17:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
that doesn't make sense, HOOS. the weed is making him challops?
― eman, Monday, 10 November 2008 17:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
RMXRMXRMXRMXRMXRMX
― siskin/skulls, Monday, 10 November 2008 18:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
its just like
omg did you know early Scott Storch beats sounds just like Dr. Dre
why yes in fact that is exactly why i listen to and enjoy them but thank you for opening my eyes and all doggie
― BIG HOOS' macaroni is off the motherfucking chain (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 10 November 2008 21:35 (4 years ago) Permalink
I'm tired of Sabbath songs but want more Sabbath sounds hence Sabbath The Genre aka stoner metal you know?
― BIG HOOS' macaroni is off the motherfucking chain (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 10 November 2008 21:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
"Wrong"
I haven't heard Holy Mountain, but Dopesmoker/Jerusalem doesn't quite do it for me. I think Conference of Birds is my favorite thing from the whole Sleep/High on Fire/Om axis.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 10 November 2008 22:05 (4 years ago) Permalink
I guess, but these guys are a low-rent knockoff. It's not like it is with Beatles, how they paved the way for a much better and much more transcendent band with better music, lyrics, and singing quality-- Oasis.
― Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Monday, 10 November 2008 22:21 (4 years ago) Permalink
hahaha
― BIG HOOS' macaroni is off the motherfucking chain (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 10 November 2008 22:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
what's so funny
― Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Monday, 10 November 2008 22:27 (4 years ago) Permalink
oh man you were serious huh
― BIG HOOS' macaroni is off the motherfucking chain (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 10 November 2008 22:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
man this troll can roll
― siskin/skulls, Monday, 10 November 2008 22:33 (4 years ago) Permalink
troll?? ME? B-b-but I've contributed so much to the intellectual discourse on this board!
― Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Monday, 10 November 2008 22:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
res will you pave the way for a much better and much more transcendent troll with better challops, contrarianism, and zinging quality--?
― The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Monday, 10 November 2008 22:48 (4 years ago) Permalink
no dude it's THE OG do you see???
― the late great, Monday, 14 May 2012 03:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
what were we talking about
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 14 May 2012 03:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
― am0n, Monday, 14 May 2012 04:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't need to buy the same album over and over again. I'll stick with the CD I bought 10 years ago, thx
― Stormy Davis, Monday, 14 May 2012 04:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
I kinda want to buy the vinyl reissue because I do like the cover. But this is totally a CD album for me.
i also have a tape recording of an interview with the band on some cable radio metal show (solar radio it was called) with the whole thing playing in the background as the band explained what happened with London Records.
I think I know what's going to be on disc 2 of the inevitable deluxe edition...
― wan brujo (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 14 May 2012 05:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
o yeah, they replaced the unnecessary extra live track with a horrible sounding live 'holy mountain'. wonder what the thought process behind that was
― am0n, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
probably some bong rips were involved
― Moodles, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
listening to this for the first ime
this is one of the longest albums i've ever heard *tips hat*
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
important q: *which* album are you listening to, cause there are at least two
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
the new one on spotify with some jawas and camels and shit, it's a 60+ minute track and a 11+ minute track?
i don't know the lore of this.
it's ok but i dunno doesn't really do a ton for me
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
fair enough
i am p fond of it
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
though i listen to the alt mix 'jerusalem' on spotify so everyone doesn't see me listening to DOPESMOKER
Breathe deep the gathering dank:
SLEEP 2012 U.S. Tour Dates:6/02/2012 The Ritz – Tampa, FL6/03/2012 Neumos – Seattle, WA6/04/2012 Neumos – Seattle, WA6/05/2012 Fox Theater – Oakland, CA
6/02/2012 The Ritz – Tampa, FL
6/03/2012 Neumos – Seattle, WA
6/04/2012 Neumos – Seattle, WA
6/05/2012 Fox Theater – Oakland, CA
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
I do love the tour logic there. "Okay, from one corner of the country to the other in a single day..."
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
you don't go straight that way, guh, you cut through the riff-filled land
― j., Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
I nod my head in acknowledgement (and then can't lift it again).
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
ok guess who missed out on a sleep gig in glasgow
― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
The Dopesmoker reissue is currently on UK eMusic for .84pI don't know if this screws them over, or if it's even a mistake, but - yeah. Good deal...
― Walter Galt, Friday, 25 May 2012 09:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
Seeing them tonight! Psyched.
― The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Friday, 25 May 2012 09:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
\m/ I haven't been as excited about a day at a festival in ages.
― Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Friday, 25 May 2012 10:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
So, that was special. I can't be the only person who thinks that. Equally so for Melvins and Yob as well. Just on fucking fire. Slayer put in a really good gig as well. Not 100% convinced by your man from Exodus but his guitar work on World Painted Blood was fucking ridiculously good and they played Die By The Sword.
Sleep though, sweet baby Jesus it was amazing.
― Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Saturday, 26 May 2012 09:07 (11 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, it was. Everything was buzzing. I didn't even bring any weed with me.
The room where Yob & WITTR played didn't seem to have very good sound and it was way too small for Yob, I could hardly get in. The main stage bands were all great though.
― The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 26 May 2012 10:03 (11 months ago) Permalink
I managed to get down to the front for the second half of Yob and it was better but I think Mike's genuinely uplifting stage persona and having the crowd really behind them made it for me. It's a real breath of fresh air having a very positive doom metal band just as light relief I think. I don't feel the same way about Black Metal though.
― Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Saturday, 26 May 2012 10:31 (11 months ago) Permalink
they seemed to be ironing out some sound issues while A Storm of Light were on cos they kind of sounded like ass but I thought it was fine by the time WITTR were on certainly
― cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 May 2012 12:38 (11 months ago) Permalink
I still don't know if the new one is a different master from the version on Tee Pee from 11 yrs ago.
― Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 27 May 2012 15:10 (11 months ago) Permalink
It is. It sounds very slightly better. But it's still a 63-minute song about weed.
― 誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 27 May 2012 16:21 (11 months ago) Permalink
http://weedian.com/sleep_print_and_clip_1.pdf
― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Thursday, 16 August 2012 11:24 (9 months ago) Permalink
PROCEEDS THE WEEDIANDOT COM
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 17 August 2012 01:07 (9 months ago) Permalink