The Sa Ra Creative Partners Thread, finally...

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gah, i feel like a chump, but i'm friends with those guys (three name drops in one thread). one of my closest friends Fabian does most of their design work and i almost did their website (fell through the cracks at the last minute). CCR's new one went from a CTI vibe to more of an Impulse sound. it's probably from the addition of saxaphone.

The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Thursday, 10 March 2005 03:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, there are a couple of hot tracks upfront and then it sort of bottoms out into the laid back jam vibe. A little too laid back for me, but the rhythm section (Max esp.) is always killin', and they're great live of course.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

sa~ra are the shit. That cover of "Just Like a Baby" is sweet.

Star Hustler, Thursday, 10 March 2005 06:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

I a interested in what you say and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Austin (Austin), Thursday, 10 March 2005 07:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

love the music, songs are a bit ho hum, apart from a few here and there, but theyre better producers than songwriters. love the production.

their sly cover is ok but just like immaculate karaoke.

ppp, Thursday, 10 March 2005 11:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

but theyre better producers than songwriters

this is the criticism i hear the most, but i just don't see it - or maybe i don't get it. i think the "problem" is that i like music that most people say has no songwriting (i love Cherrywine and the new Mos Def). i don't even know what poor songwriting means.

The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

i don't even know what poor songwriting means.

OTM.

Good songwriting is mostly a myth as far as I am concerned.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

The album is sounding great. They should at least get as much press as Amp Fiddler or Peven Everett....

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

come on, now. it will be much bigger than amp or peven. this is going to blow up. as gill can attest, take the glorious beat and drop snoop's "drop it like it's hot" acappela over the top. wikked.

much more jay dee than moodymann.

Is the full-length coming out on Ubiquity? Jay-Z line three.

david day (winslow), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:18 (9 years ago) Permalink

holy crap, my friend just got a cdr of new jay dee beats. weird is the first word that comes to mind. bad is the second. lots of chopped vocal loops. sounds like he's copping a kanye vibe. we'll see.

The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

mullygrubbr, did you get my email? the one on this thread got sent back to me. if not, email me.

The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...
loving it

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Thursday, 23 June 2005 21:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

that's right!

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

Release the album already!

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

the plantlife record is doing it for me too. its way less skewed but it makes me smile.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeah, plantlife took a minute to grow on me, but i really love it now. i thought just because it was a bit more "straight" that it wasn't worth listening to, but i was wrong.

i don't think Platinum Pied Pipers is very good. decent beats, but bad mc/vocalists.

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

gary, did you listen to the Jneiro Jarel? has anyone?

doesn't look like it

The Jneiro Jarel "Three Piece Puzzle" album is like whoa!

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:35 (9 years ago) Permalink

jaxon, i think you should try to track down this "cornerstone promotions" mix dj language did for nike if you can. it's probably one of my favorite records this year (oh the shame) and it's a nice mix of this stuff, broken beat, and related satellites.

strng hlkngtn, Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

i listened to half of it yesterday...kept waiting for him to flow.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

xpost

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

related satellites = spacek, stone's throw rap, slum village-type stuff, saadiq-soul

it's very...hazy. middle of august on the blacktop, hazy.

strng hlkngtn, Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

hazy is amongst my favourites

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

jess, have you heard the full sa-ra yet? (it's downloadable if you want it)

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

i downloaded something called "unreleased cd-r" a while back and listened to it once or twice. is that what you mean?

("once or twice" isn't a commentary on its quality, btw, just my lack of time.)

strng hlkngtn, Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeah, that should be it? it has like 20 tracks. i didn't know if you were basing your previous "meh" judgements on one or two songs or the "album"

The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Thursday, 23 June 2005 23:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

I don't think those are the final versions- definitely the version of "Double Dutch (Co Co Pops)" is a much less layered production than the 12" release. And it doesn't seem like it's a separate single version and album version either, just that one is more finished-sounding than the other.

Telephonething, Friday, 24 June 2005 00:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
FOUR TET & SA-RA: Sun, Drums & Soil 12"

"The hottest UK star pushing against electronic-ecstatic jazz boundaries has just hooked up with next planet's saviors of soul. This is Four Tet vs the Sa Ra Creative Partners! Colliding in a 'Contusion' of Calypso-inflected tack-synth-melodies, squelchy rude basslines and utterly serious 'supercool' speak, this is the most explicit fun anyone's had with Four Tet's musical parts since Jay Dee got involved last year! We're also treated to Four Tet's own 'Sun Drums and Gamelan' remix of the track, which recalls 'Rated X' era Miles Davis."

Anyone heard this yet? Thoughts?

Mika, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 02:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

no. i like the jay dee four tet thing though.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 02:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

I've got the Sa-Ra remix on a 3" promo cd dealie...it's quite nice. Anyone want a YSI?

Telephonething (Telephonething), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 02:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

pls

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 02:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

Uh, definitely, yeah.

(this YSI thing is getting outta hand, but link away please...)

Mika, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 02:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

Cheers,

It's so busy, there's quite a few different styles crammed in there. Including harddrive laptop skipping and broken beats, a distinction from straight up disco-looped house?

Don't know about the Fourtet connection in general. I'm interested to see where Sa-Ra position themselves in relation to R'n'B, hip-hop, electronica and downbeat though.

Mika, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 07:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...
worst "show" i've ever been to. paid for presale tickets. go there and have to be subjected to a subpar acid jazz band and then sa ra get on and they're just playing records. FOR THE WHOLE NIGHT! they weren't even playing records. he had a weird midi turntable hooked up to his laptop and was playing boring ass records that i've heard four billion times. i walked up to one of the dude's girlfriends and asked if they were really going to be playing records all night and she said it was listed on the site. fuck that. look at this. it's in the tiniest print hidden in some parentheses. what a fucking scam. first jay dee and now this. what a shitty day.

team jaxon (jaxon), Saturday, 11 February 2006 10:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...
trackademicks > sa-ra

rtcotm (mwah), Monday, 6 March 2006 13:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

no.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 6 March 2006 15:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

well, maybe, but i've never heard it.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 6 March 2006 15:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

lol @ faggy uk male model jammin hollertronix affiliates

,,,,,,,,,,,, Monday, 6 March 2006 15:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

did we ever find a tracklist for the cd-r btw?

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 6 March 2006 15:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

I know it's corny to say it sounds great when you're high but it sounds great when you're high.

PAUL HAGGIS, EMOTIONAL TERRORIST (nordicskilla), Monday, 6 March 2006 16:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

it does!

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 6 March 2006 16:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

considering my complete 180 on this thread topic i am really worried about the album

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 6 March 2006 16:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

Is there actually an album? when?

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Monday, 6 March 2006 16:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

whatever it is that Jaxon gave me is awesome - easily one of my favorite new things of the last few years.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 March 2006 17:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

i think prince was listening to sa ra in the studio when making 3121

how retardely backwards is that?

team jaxon (jaxon), Monday, 6 March 2006 17:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

ah he's always fairly up on new r&b folks (albeit not always with the best judgment - ex: Tevin Campbell)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

well i found his myspace tryna hear the e40 single and i kinda liked that keyshia cole rmx on there fine enough! since i never liked sa-ra one bit (like hold on ummm so everyone smirking at neo-soul/broken beat in the 00s ws just waiting for a click of farnsworth bentleys to show up and validate their lives 5 years later?) (and i never liked keyshia cole either, she's a dick!) i wondered if ppl were up on this guy too

the e40 rmx on there is aight as well considering

rtcotm (mwah), Monday, 6 March 2006 19:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

I was never down on neo-soul!

Adamrl (nordicskilla), Monday, 6 March 2006 19:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

and lol @ e 4ever waiting to pounce

rtcotm (mwah), Monday, 6 March 2006 19:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

yeah haha tbh adaml i first thought of u! mainly cos ur well into hyphy and trackademicks is out of that i think

rtcotm (mwah), Monday, 6 March 2006 19:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

I hope "Fantastic Vampere" ends up on Nu AmErykah part 2.

Eric H., Monday, 22 December 2008 07:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

what is "Fantastic Vampere"?

The Reverend, Monday, 22 December 2008 07:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

I xposted it to here: itt: kinda out there, maybe kinda experimental, maybe kinda pretentious modern r&b

Amazing stuff, but 3 years old and way more Sa-Ra f/ Badu than the reverse, so I don't have any reason to believe it might show on New Amerykah 2

The Reverend, Monday, 22 December 2008 08:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, 3 years old but still haven't gotten a good clean copy of it. (The one on imeem sounds like a first draft, but it whooshes through the headphones like damn!)

Point taken on the "featuring Badu" aspect, tho.

Eric H., Tuesday, 23 December 2008 00:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

i saw ommas perform at a club earlier in the year - hilarious stuff. nice little (as in tiny, borderline white stripes numbers) band too.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 00:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

The version posted on rappersiknow certainly sounds finished.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 00:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

(It's downloadable btw)

The Reverend, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 00:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

Finished, but highly compressed/muted somehow.

Eric H., Tuesday, 23 December 2008 00:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

I mean, good enough that I've been listening to it on repeat for the last two months, but still ...

Eric H., Tuesday, 23 December 2008 00:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

What was the Monch track? It's off youtube now. I haven't found the two or three things I've half-listened to by these even interesting, but Hey Love is really nice, maybe i've been missing out.

subroc back to haunt, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 16:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

Am I behind in this convo is is Monch's Agent Orange in question here?

n/o_O (PappaWheelie V), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 16:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh right I either didn't realize or i forgot that they produced that. Thought what you posted must have been a remix of a Desire track. Thanks.

subroc back to haunt, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 16:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

Seems counter-intuitive that when Monch returned with much more soul and horns than I expected, sa-ra of all people were partly responsible for an expectation of stuff that was a bit more raw.

subroc back to haunt, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 16:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

yup. there's some great stuff, but overall it's a bit too much

but hey, that would be going into sexual details ... (The Reverend), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 23:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

and it isn't titled Pubic Cube (in Space): Book I of IV ;_;

but hey, that would be going into sexual details ... (The Reverend), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 23:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

Just got this from emusic... Halfway through it and I think it might be pretty great. The first few songs just kinda floated by, but ten tracks in I'm completely on board. "Love Czars" is awesome.

Professor Respect, Thursday, 25 June 2009 01:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

I think "He Say She Say" is my early favorite

blap-and-trade system (The Reverend), Friday, 26 June 2009 07:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3144&Itemid=26

Shafiq Husayn , one third of California beat unit Sa-Ra Creative Partners, will release a solo album via K7/Plug Research on September 15.

jaxon, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 22:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

the single is ridiculously awesome, and i was never hugely into sa-ra per se before

interviewing shafiq tonight...

lex pretend, Thursday, 6 August 2009 10:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

post the interview when its out... i like that song a lot too.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 6 August 2009 10:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

that track is super rad

jaxon, Thursday, 6 August 2009 17:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

Even though most of the new album doesn't really do it for me, even after repeated listens, I can't get enough of "He Say She Say" -- it is absolutely, deliriously magnificent.

Goethe*s Elective Affinities, Monday, 10 August 2009 21:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

listening to that shafiq album. these guys are so pastichey. almost everything they do sounds slightly deriviative. and i get the feeling its almost deliberate, their way of tipping their hat. but it just sounds slightly drab or like a damp squib. so mish mashy. plus their vocals are really shit and flat. this album should be on ninja tune.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 25 February 2010 16:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

actually the main prob with this album is that surprisingly it seems overproduced. and then theres something about the production thats almost too slick and perfected, with all the grit and rough edges sanded off.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 25 February 2010 16:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

lil girl is the standout. this could be a good ep.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 25 February 2010 16:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

More thoughts on "The Nuclear Evolution"?

European Bob (admrl), Thursday, 22 July 2010 16:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

melodee n'mynor is a dope track

johnny crunch, Friday, 23 July 2010 23:37 (4 years ago) Permalink


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