Chitlin Circuit Double-entendre -filled Soul 2004 (and onward) Theodis Ealey's "Stand Up In It" is a song of the year

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Part-time freelancer me's gotta find the time to write about this stuff, since the fulltimers don't seem to know about it, or care.

steve-k, Monday, 25 April 2005 14:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

I saw the Dells and Bobby Womack Friday night at the Showplace Arena in Maryland, near DC. I got there late and unfortunately missed the Intruders("Cowboys to Girls") and most of Heatwave. There were about 2,500 people there. Other than one 20-something white guy with a black date, I was the only other non-African American in the crowd. I continue to find this odd (see my post above about the crowd at the 70s Soul Jam). The Dells were very good, if not quite as great as when I saw them years ago at Carter Barron in D.C.

steve-k, Monday, 9 May 2005 14:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

From Monday May 9th Washington Post Style C5 (washingtonpost.com)

The Dells have been around a long, long time. While many acts on the oldies circuit are lucky to have one original member, the Dells have four and haven't had a membership change since 1960. Friday night at the Showplace Arena in Upper Marlboro, this soul harmony quintet, formed in 1953, exhibited the chemistry that comes from being together for decades.

Emphasizing their R&B hits from the late '60s and early '70s, baritone Marvin Junior and falsetto/tenor Johnny Carter exchanged leads, supported by the shared notes of the three other members and the sweet tones of their horns- and piano-led big band. Like veteran basketball stars, these inductees of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame no longer dazzle at will, but their skills remain at a high level and they can turn on that special magic periodically.

On "The Love We Had (Stays on My Mind)," Junior shifted on a dime from breathy whisper to powerhouse gospel-rooted cry in a manner that was stunning both technically and emotionally. "Stay in My Corner" showcased Carter's still-amazing ability in the high range. These hits also demonstrated Carter and Junior's gymnastic abilities to stretch out notes, and the rest of the combo's exquisite tunefulness.

Opener Bobby Womack has had quite a musical life -- teenage gospel singer, guitarist with Sam Cooke, Wilson Pickett and Sly Stone, pal of the Rolling Stones and successful solo artist off and on from the '60s through the '80s. Unfortunately, he left the strumming to a band mate, and either rushed through his hits or languidly lagged behind the beat. His voice retains a distinctive bittersweet feel, but his renditions of "Across 110th Street," "Harry Hippie" and "If You Think You're Lonely Now" lacked the melancholy passion of his studio versions.


-- Steve Kiviat

steve-k, Monday, 9 May 2005 14:10 (9 years ago) Permalink

I really like "Grown Folks Party" by the Problem Solvas (I think). It's driving r and b/soul w/ a small touch of blues. It's getting radio airplay in the states from the same folks who play Theodis Easley. It has a synth on it. It's not going for that Sharon Jones retro thing, though it is retro in its own way.

steve-k, Monday, 9 May 2005 14:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...
revive.

Saturday afternoon the Gator on WPFW 89.3 in DC (and online when it is working) keeps playing great new double-entendre filled Souterhn soul.

Also, I finally got the new Bettye LaVette--I've Got My Own Hell to Raise, and am impressed. I was worried that the Joe Henry production and the choice of songs (non-soul women country and folkies plus Fiona Apple & Sinead O'Connor) would be too 'tasteful', but it is not.

curmudgeon, Monday, 28 November 2005 15:52 (8 years ago) Permalink

Lavette's gonna be at the State Theatre in Falls Church, outside DC on Thursday, and Aaron Neville's gonna be at the Birchmere in Alexandria, Virginia that night. Sadly, I can not make either event.

Curmudgeon Steve (Steve K), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 02:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

http://soulandbluesreport.com/SouthernSoulChart.html
1
Can't Nobody Do Me
Lenny Williams
Universal

3
2
Going Crazy
Willie Clayton
Malaco

2
3
Stroke It Easy
Tazz
Mardi Gras

6
4
The Blacker The Berry
Chairman OTB
Surfside

5
5
Inseparable
Lorenzo Owens
B-Town

4
6
Dance Like You're Naked
Lee Fields
BDA

9
7
Ease On Down In The Bed
Lee Shot Williams
Ecko

7
8
Baby, I've Changed
Floyd Taylor
Malaco

8
9
Ten Toes Up
J Diamond Washington
2Brothers

10
10
Cheating & Lying
T. K. Soul
Soulful

The Top 25 Chart is calculated on a formula based on reports from our reporting panel of Radio Stations, Clubs, & Retail Stores

Curmudgeon Steve (Steve K), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 02:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...
The Gator on WPFW 89.3 (Pacifica station that is also online) just played "Slap That Booty" by Gary Brown and "Junk in the Crunk" by David Brinston. Raunchy great recent stuff that gets no UK or US media attention outside of some obscure newsletters and Southern US radio stations.

Curmudgeon Steve (Steve K), Saturday, 17 December 2005 19:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

More Gator faves:

3. Big G Stomp, Big G
CD: Love on the Run, Bigsounds.com

4. Same Girl, Hardway Connection
CD: Hot Ticket, WILBE Records

5. Come On and Dance With Me, Hardway Connection
CD: Hot Ticket, WILBE Records

6. Brand New Dance, Jesse Yawn
CD: Forever More, Houseday Music

7. Hootchie Dance, Barbara Carr
CD: Stroke It, ECKO Records

8. I Came to Party, Monique Ford
CD: Get a Maid, Total Smash Music

9. The After Party, Gridloc Band
CD: Gridloc Band, (301)808-7272

10. Sweet Man of Mine, E.C. Scott
CD: Hard Act to Follow, Blind Pig Records

11.Was It Me, Big G
CD: Love on the Run, BigSounds.com, (804)615-2196

12. Touching Me, Lynn White
CD: Touching Me, (901)398-4948

13. Live in Freak, Jim Bennett & Lady Mary & the Unique Creation Band
CD: One More Go Round, (301)753-4335

14. A Woman Needs Money, Denise LaSalle
CD: Wanted, ECKO Records

15. I Don’t Come Cheap, Jim Bennett & Lady Mary & the Unique Creation Band
CD: One More Go Round, (301)753-4335

curmudgeon (Steve K), Saturday, 17 December 2005 19:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

D.J. Freight Train also plays this stuff:

http://freighttrainsblockparty.com/index.html

Also I see that it was Carl Marshall, not the Problem Solvas, who did "Ain't No Party(Like a Grown Folks Party)" It came out in Nov. '04 on his Takin it to a higher level cd

Curmudgeon Steve (Steve K), Saturday, 17 December 2005 19:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

i don't like that Lavette album. sounds like they threw her into a phone booth for some sorta cut-rate rick rubin vibe. at least they didn't have her cover marilyn manson.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 17 December 2005 20:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

i've been having a good time listening to all the ichiban records i bought from 1990/1992. some are great. some are bad. some are soul. some are blues. all very local and downhome. sorry, not recent. but they fit this thread. records by:

pic & bill
lv johnson
yvonne jackson
clarence carter
travis haddix
legendary blues band
john mooney
backtrack blues band
raful neil
bob margolin
troy turner
johnny sansone
the dells
artie "blues boy" white
roshell anderson
chick willis
charles wilson
nappy brown
trudy lynn
jerry mccain
dicky williams
joe beard
tommy tate
ruby andrews
prince philip mitchell
tom principato
smokehouse
drink small
noble "thin man" watts
gary b.b.coleman
david dee
sonny rhodes


scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 17 December 2005 20:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...
Scott, I've liked the Chick Willis stuff I've heard. Have you checked out the record you got by him?

Also, I think the below is the link for an online station that streams current Southern double-entendre filled soul

http://alldownsouth.tripod.com/

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

At soulandbluesreport.com

The 4th Annual Best Southern Soul

Please Vote For Your Favorite Southern Soul Performers Of The Year

Vote On Our Special Page ... The Funky's 2005 ... Results Announced Jan 16, 2006,

Vote Often


I like the "vote often"

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

I thought I'd hate the Lavette because of the approach taken--have her sing lots of songs by middlebrow performers popular with NPR listeners(Rick Rubin and Joe Henry)--but I still do like it. The press kit with the release says she picked the songs from a selection provided by her hubby and the folks at Anti(who did the same with Solomon Burke). I want to check out her release from a few years ago and see how she sounds on that.

She gets virtually no airplay on the soul radio show in DC.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

I do not know if producers Rubin and Henry listen to NPR, but their approach generates NPR attention is what I mean! But as I said upthread I think Lavette's voice cuts through no matter what, and I bet the Southern soul stations who like the raw double-entendre stuff might like it if Anti was smart enough to market it to them as well.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:34 (8 years ago) Permalink

http://www.soulandbluesreport.com/Page4.html

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:44 (8 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...
Still no articles by Harvell, Finney, or Sherburne on contemporary Southern Soul in Pitchfork!

The SOULANDBLUESREPORT TOP 25
May 19, 2006 http://www.soulandbluesreport.com/top%2025.html


Mel Waiters
Willie Clayton
Bobby Rush
Vick Allen
J Blackfoot
Renea Mitchell
Sir Charles Jones
Lenny Williams
Donnie Ray
Ms. Monique
Carl Simms
Floyd Taylor
Team Airplay All Stars
Chairmen Of The Board
Lorraine Turner
Miz B
Wendell B.
Ms. Jody
Sheba Potts-Wright
Lacee'
Lorraine Turner
William Bell
Theodis Ealey
Bob Steele
Chairmen Of The Board
NEW SOUTHERN SOUL THIS WEEK
SBR's Top 25 Is Calculated On Reports From Our Panel Of Radio Stations,Clubs, & Syndicated Shows

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 5 June 2006 03:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

Just got Marvin Sease's 2005 Malaco effort-Live with the Candy Licker. His schtick (spelling?) is kinda tired, but he's got a nice church-groomed timbre and a solid horns and more band with him. He's gonna be performing with Chick "Stoop Down Baby" Willis, Roy C., Jim Bennett & Lady Mary, and Floyd Haywood (once with the Hardway Connection)at Lamonts in Pomonkey, Maryland, south of DC on Saturday June 10th.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...
I missed Captain Fly’s DC Soul revue at Carter Barron tonight(see the writeup in the Washington Post weekend section by Richard Harrington). In recent weeks I missed Eddie & Denise with Theotis Easley at Lamont’s, I missed Marvin the Candylicker Sease at Lamonts. I missed Gator Day at Lamonts. Work and life are getting in the way of chitlin circuit soul.

So on Saturday July 15th Denise Lasalle is at Lamonts, and Captain Fly has a revue that night at Fort Dupont Park:
WPFW Night "D.C. Juke Box Review" featuring Al Johnson, William
DeVaughn, Sir Joe Quarterman, Mark Green & Captain Fly & Friends.
Opening: Hardway Connection

I need to try to make one of these events, or surely, I will be kicked out of the blue-eyed soul club.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Saturday, 1 July 2006 04:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
So the Denise Lasalle show got postponed to today, and I'm gonna miss it. For shame. Just heard her song "Dirty Old Woman" on WPFW 89.3 (and online). Lee Fields, who's been in Europe for awhile, is back and he's performing there as well.

I picked up the recent Mel Waiters cd. Not bad.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Saturday, 26 August 2006 18:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...
The Waiters cd is actually really nice.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

lotsa stuff from rolling country thread, earlier this year:

Listening to a pile of Southern soul discovered via CD-baby channels. The album by a jowly guy named Jimmy Taylor leans toward the blues end of things (with lady backup vocals not far from the ones on last year's Bobby Bare album); the EP by the lady named Candis Palmer ("All Men Ain't Dawgs,* since some are electric boogie dawgs apparently) leans toward the disco end; the single by Harold, "Chill Step Party," is steppin' music. He mentions Milwaukee, Chitown, Harlem, and Atlanta in it. More fun than R. Kelly, as far as I'm concerned, but mainly all this stuff obviously has a connection to county music too. (and though candis palmer is happy to have found a man who is not a dawg, jimmy taylor insists that when women say they're looking for a good man, they're lying. really, he says, they're looking for a fool.) (apparently the kinda fool who will let her spend all his money.) (he also directly quotes zz hill's "cheating in the next room in one of his songs.) (he's from alabama; I don't know where candis or harold are from. they're not actually on cdbaby.com per se, but i was sent their cds in the same package that the jimmy taylor CD came in.) jimmy taylor on his album is totally paranoid, and in just about every song he's either cheating or being cheated on or both, and as i said, he seems fully convinced that his woman is going to put him in the poor house (where, in real life, for all i know, he may already be.) in "you're busted" he hires a private detective to follow her around, and gets a photo of her cheating. "love catcher" has a pretty good sax solo. and though some songs sound more blues to me than soul, a couple (like "all i want is you") still veer more toward disco than anybody in country music has, i think, even shannon brown on her new album.
candis palmer, as i said, gets even more disco, but her disco is maybe 1975 where taylor's is 1973. (i think i wrote on the '05 thread that shannon brown's disco sounded 1979, but maybe that was hyperbole; i'm not sure. these two soul singers FEEL more disco.) but even at her most disco, in a song called "don't let someone else come and jingle my bell" or something, palmer gets backed by HARD blues guitar riffs, so the music really rocks. if i had to compare her vocal style to anybody, it'd be the staple singers in "i'll take you there."

-- xhuxk (xedd...), January 28th, 2006


glamorous bertha payne, *bedroom offer* EP: southern country soul millie jackson style (i.e., as many parts talked as sung, many of 'em bawdy), from memphis, via cdbaby.com. starts with a good riddance song where glamorous bertha (who on the cd cover is a big girl in her red dress with a red glass of wine) tells you "i don't need your face in my face" so "go away like a bad day" and "you might as well pack your rags." then the title track, which is not about her bedroom offer to him but the other way around, which offer she says isn't enough and the two backup singers (favorite artists: denise lasalle, mary j blige) chorus "bang! bang!" but by song's end glamorous bertha is saying "i need a man who will love me all night long. are you qualified? if not, get off the pot!" then one where she promises to shake it and break it (and maybe hang it on the wall) and she tells "all you womens with big elephant ears" that with her man every day is pay day. then supposedly "part two" of the same song, which means same slinky rhythm track as part one but now with sexy breathy pillow talk all over the top where bertha tells you to lift up her skirt. then finally another good riddance song, this one a tough and funky blues, where he leaves her with a sink full of dishes in a "one-room [some word i can't make out]", hence the best dishwashing song since ray parker jr's "bad boy" if not anita ward's "ring my bell." also she brings him food in bed, which means this might also be a breakfast breakup song in the tradition of the 5th dimension's "one less bell to answer" and karyn white's "superwoman." five songs total, but two around 4:00, three around 4:25, which means glamorous bertha takes her time and surely deserves a lover with a slow hand.

-- xhuxk (xedd...), February 23rd, 2006.

the legendary moody scott, *simply moody: we gotta bust outta the ghetto*: more cdbaby southern soul, from louisiana. cover has moody, a dapper old guy seemingly in his 60s, in front of a rundown rural shack; interesting, since "ghettos" are usually assumed to be urban, right? first track "bustin out of the ghetto" is a sort of james brown rip, five minutes long, where moody as i recall reels off some towns in the south train conducter style (am i imagining this? i THINK he did that, anyway) and ends singing "america america god grant his grace on thee." then he covers tyrone davis's great "can i change my mind," my favorite track. and from there the more soul oriented stuff ("last two dollars," the misspelled cheated-on song "one man's hppiness" which for some reason makes me think of billy stewart sitting in the park even though billy had a high voice and moody really doesn't, "something you got baby") is more likeable, to me, than the more blatantly blues stuff, but then again i always think that. both the soul and blues are generic, i suppose; with the soul i don't mind. best song title: "annie mae cafe." and the closer "son of a southern man" starts with moody telling his guitarist "tattoo" suarez ("my man from argentina") about his grandpa drinking corn liquor and singing "downhome blues". so yeah, country for sure.
-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 11th, 2006.


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He does get urban and/or urbane once, though -- a nice slinky silk-shirt early '80s style quiet storm soul croon called "The Best of Me." (Not sure if any songs other than the Tyrone Davis are covers. "Last Two Dollars" and "Annie Mae Cafe" are writing-credited to one George Jackson; wasn't there a soul singer of that name once? But if so, I never heard him, though.)
-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 11th, 2006.


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"something you got baby" wouldn't be chris kenner's "something you got" would it? since moody's from louisiana...and yeah, george jackson (I'm assuming it's the same guy--I don't know "annie mae cafe") wrote z.z. hill's "down home blues" and a lot of stuff for candi staton, clarence carter, pickett, james carr; a memphis guy who later worked for malaco and wrote for all them: johnnie taylor, latimore, shirley brown, bobby bland...
enjoying jace everett, so far. it's quite a collection of somewhat off-the-wall guitar effects, interesting guitar chromatics (as in the first song), definitely a '70s pop thing happening; and in my mode of concurrent listening (lately it's been dusty springfield/the latest numero group comp of obscure '70s female singers/the new, beautiful nara leão bossa "nara '67"; and jace/radney foster/jessi colter, partly because they all have cool first names, I guess) I notice that both radney and jace hark back to stiff records, which I find interesting.

xps

-- edd s hurt (eddshur...), March 11th, 2006.

George Jackson was an occasional great old soul singer on Goldwax then Hi, and kind of a house writer at both. I'll try to remember tomorrow (just in from a party, and why I'm doing this rather than going straight to bet I've no idea) to YSI his absolutely magnificent Aretha, Sing One For Me. He was among the greatest writers in southern soul - he wrote for Ann Peebles, O.V. Wright, Otis Clay, James Carr, Clarence Carter, Etta James, Denise LaSalle, Wilson Pickett, Candi Staton and even wrote the Osmonds' first hit!
-- Martin Skidmore (lonewolf.cu...), March 12th, 2006.


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if I'm not mistaken, Alvin Robinson recorded for AFO (All for One), a New Orleans label of the '60s that Harold Battiste started; house band included Toussaint and Red Tyler. And he had a hit with Kenner's "Something You Got" (which was later covered by lots of folks, including Bobby Womack, who did a reggae remake on his "Safety Zone" LP in the mid-'70s. Alvin Robinson also recorded for Leiber and Stoller at Red Bird in New York, and did a real classic called "Down Home Girl."
I gotta get that Moody Scott record.

-- edd s hurt (eddshur...), March 12th, 2006.

That YSI:
George Jackson - Aretha, Sing One For Me
It'd be in my top 100 favourite singles ever, I think.

-- Martin Skidmore (lonewolf.cu...), March 12th, 2006.


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>I gotta get that Moody Scott record.<
I have an extra copy, Edd! I'll send it to you.

-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 12th, 2006.


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great! thanks Chuck!

-- edd s hurt (eddshur...), March 12th, 2006.


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>I don't know anything much about Moody Scott, just a handful of tracks, <
So Martin, did Moody have regional hits or something? I never heard of him before I saw his cdbaby page, and haven't really taken time to research him. I'm surprised you even heard of him!

-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 12th, 2006.

I don't know, Chuck, but bear in mind that I've been a huge fan of soul for a long time, and do know quite a lot about it (though not as much as Eddie, I'm pretty sure). The odd track does get on compilations of one sort or another, which suggests that Moody isn't incredibly obscure - but I don't even know exactly where he worked or anything, so he isn't famous either, clearly.
-- Martin Skidmore (lonewolf.cu...), March 12th, 2006.

also really liking irma thomas's *after the rain* on rounder, the "rain" obviously being katrina, though i kind of hate the mooshy shelter-from-storm piano ballad the album ends with though i do hope it provides solace to new orleans. what i love so far is "flowers" (soul about flowers on roadsides after car crashes, with a sound that i swear reminds me of "uncle tom's cabin" by warrant), "make me a pallet on the floor" (cheating with a painter, wow), "till i can't take it anymore" (country music in a soul voice, about how "you work your thing so well/I dream of heaven and live here in hell"), "these honey dos" (vampy bawdy boogie woogie where the honey dos are at first temptations but wind up also being about manners like please and thank you), and "stone survivor" (which is just plain funky).

-- xhuxk (xedd...), May 5th, 2006.

And Irma also does an extremely gorgeous version of "I Count the Tears" (the "na-na-na-na-na-na late at night" song) by the Drifters..
-- xhxuk (xedd...), May 5th, 2006.


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And she also does "Another Man Done Gone," a trad blues tune I swear I've heard hundreds of times by some huge classic rock group (Creem? Zep? the Allmans? somebody...), though no classic rock groups seem to be listed on AMG as doing it, so maybe whoever did it (which will probably hit me as really obvious once I found out) did it under a different title or something, or maybe with different words? (Also, I'm thinking now that maybe "These Honey Dos" and "Stone Survivor" and the palette one aren't quite at the level of the Warrant one and the country one and the Drifters one, but they're close.) -- xhuxk (xedd...), May 5th, 2006.

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also liking (speaking of southern soul) *candy licker: the sex & soul of marvin sease* (jive/legacy) not all of which concerns muff diving, and at least "hoochie mama" of which has zapp-style robot-funk freakazoids reciting the names of several of the united states.

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), June 12th, 2006.

*Most of the Marvin Sease album is gloppy ballads which aren't all that good, but some of it is kinda fun. (The first track is awful though.)

-- Haikunym (zinogu...), June 13th, 2006.


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Marvin Sease CD is way less gloppy and ballady than Matt suggests (or maybe I just have a higher glop tolerance than he does; see also the Alan Bros!); most of it gets a good '70s smooth-jazzy funk disco groove going. And lots of the songs have pre-old-school "raps" (i.e., talking as singing, sometimes like a preacher's sermon) in them, which are really fun. And sure, the opening track "Do You Want a Licker?" is awful if you want it to be, but it's just too silly to complain about; ditto the other bookend, a five-minute live "Candy Licker 2005." Also, the ballads are pretty good, for the most part. "Don't Forget to Tell On You" sounds kind of like "Tell it Like It Is." But my favorite cuts are probably "I'm Mr Jody," the backdoor man song that starts with an ominous phone call, and the 12-step fix-your-life number "I Gotta Clean Up." (Has anybody ever written a good essay about Jody? He's the guy back on the block who's having sex to your girl while you're in the Army, and I get the idea he shows up in lots of Southern soul songs: Doesn't Johnnie Taylor have one about him, too*? As do, I would assume, other folks.)

* - yep, I just checked Whitburn: "Jody's Got Your Girl and Gone," went to number 28 in 1971. (Hey, sounds like a good EMP proposal!)

-- xhuxk (xhux...), June 14th, 2006.


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having sex WITH (or) making love TO.
and courtesy of HIS new truck.
).

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), June 14th, 2006.


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Johnnie Taylor was the king of Jody songs. "Standing In for Jody" and "Jody's Got Your Girl and Gone" are just two; I mean every song he does is kind of about Jody-ism in some way or another. I am a nut for Johnnie Taylor (I like Johnny Taylor a lot, too, and Ted Taylor, the Louisiana soul singer, is also excellent--so I think an EMP paper on the Sooper Taylors would be good!!), and Taylor is also the king of fucking-around songs. There are these nifty new Stax reissues that includes stuff by Frederick Knight, the Dramatics, etc., and if you ask me one of the very best Stax albums-as-albums is Johnnie's "Who's Making Love," which is the typical collection of singles but which really has variety and which totally hangs together. "Hold On This Time" has a great Cropper riff, cubist guitar, and "Woman Across the River" is one of the best Stax blues ever.
I only know the older, cunnilingual and happy to oblige, ma'am, Marvin Sease stuff--he's really good. "Marvin Sease" on London from late '80s is a good 'un. One of those artists who've been working the I-55 corridor from Memphis to the Louisiana border, forever.

-- edd s hurt (eddshur...), June 14th, 2006.


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Well, a Taylors EMP report would probably be really interesting, but I was thinking (theoretically, not volunteering!) more in terms of one about Jody himself. Who was he? And how far back do Jody songs go? Did Johnnie Taylor invent them? Or does Jody show up in blue songs during World War II or something? Was he a real person, like maybe Stagger Lee? (Was Shine who swam the Titanic a real person? I forget.) Seems like real *Mystery Train* mythology stuff, and I'm surprised nobody has tackled the research (unless they have and I just didn't notice, which is very possible. I haven't even done a google search.) (Also, do I only associate Jody with making cuckolds of military guys stationed overseas because I was *in* the military, and he was always showing up in cadences used while marching and/or running? Or is that his main deal? And otherwise, to what extent if any does he exist outside of the culture of Southern blacks--who, when I was in, seemed to make up a sizable portion of the Army?)
-- xhuxk (fakemai...), June 14th, 2006.


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This could really be hella interesting, absolutely. Is "Trapped in the Closet" the Ulysses of Jody songs?
-- Haikunym (zinogu...), June 14th, 2006.

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Here's some info I found while googling Jody songs:
http://soulfuldetroit.com/archives/10238/9918.html?1079610632

-- Sang Freud (jstrell...), June 14th, 2006.


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x-post. Taylor didn't invent the Jody song. Jody / Jodie / Joe the Grinder are pretty common figures in blues tunes.There's Louis Armstrong's "Jodie Man" which makes the "GI Joe de man" connection explicit. I wouldn't be surprised if that military connection is at the origin, though it's obviously gone through lots of transformations.
-- Roy Kasten (rfkaste...), June 14th, 2006.


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Yeah, I'd forgotten Joe The Grinder. I used to own a copy of that *Get Your Ass in the Water and Swim Like Me* prison-rap comp (on Smithsonian or Rounder or something?), and I think there might even be a Joe the Grinder rhyme on there (I *may* even have mentioned it in the pre-rap rap chapter of my second book). Anyway, this link from the link above has great stuff about Jody Army cadences; also says Johnnie Taylor himself learned about Jody while in the military:
http://p211.ezboard.com/fwordoriginsorgfrm4.showMessage?topicID=153.topic

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), June 14th, 2006.


xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

lotsa stuff from rolling country thread, earlier this year:

Listening to a pile of Southern soul discovered via CD-baby channels. The album by a jowly guy named Jimmy Taylor leans toward the blues end of things (with lady backup vocals not far from the ones on last year's Bobby Bare album); the EP by the lady named Candis Palmer ("All Men Ain't Dawgs,* since some are electric boogie dawgs apparently) leans toward the disco end; the single by Harold, "Chill Step Party," is steppin' music. He mentions Milwaukee, Chitown, Harlem, and Atlanta in it. More fun than R. Kelly, as far as I'm concerned, but mainly all this stuff obviously has a connection to county music too. (and though candis palmer is happy to have found a man who is not a dawg, jimmy taylor insists that when women say they're looking for a good man, they're lying. really, he says, they're looking for a fool.) (apparently the kinda fool who will let her spend all his money.) (he also directly quotes zz hill's "cheating in the next room in one of his songs.) (he's from alabama; I don't know where candis or harold are from. they're not actually on cdbaby.com per se, but i was sent their cds in the same package that the jimmy taylor CD came in.) jimmy taylor on his album is totally paranoid, and in just about every song he's either cheating or being cheated on or both, and as i said, he seems fully convinced that his woman is going to put him in the poor house (where, in real life, for all i know, he may already be.) in "you're busted" he hires a private detective to follow her around, and gets a photo of her cheating. "love catcher" has a pretty good sax solo. and though some songs sound more blues to me than soul, a couple (like "all i want is you") still veer more toward disco than anybody in country music has, i think, even shannon brown on her new album.
candis palmer, as i said, gets even more disco, but her disco is maybe 1975 where taylor's is 1973. (i think i wrote on the '05 thread that shannon brown's disco sounded 1979, but maybe that was hyperbole; i'm not sure. these two soul singers FEEL more disco.) but even at her most disco, in a song called "don't let someone else come and jingle my bell" or something, palmer gets backed by HARD blues guitar riffs, so the music really rocks. if i had to compare her vocal style to anybody, it'd be the staple singers in "i'll take you there."

-- xhuxk (xedd...), January 28th, 2006


glamorous bertha payne, *bedroom offer* EP: southern country soul millie jackson style (i.e., as many parts talked as sung, many of 'em bawdy), from memphis, via cdbaby.com. starts with a good riddance song where glamorous bertha (who on the cd cover is a big girl in her red dress with a red glass of wine) tells you "i don't need your face in my face" so "go away like a bad day" and "you might as well pack your rags." then the title track, which is not about her bedroom offer to him but the other way around, which offer she says isn't enough and the two backup singers (favorite artists: denise lasalle, mary j blige) chorus "bang! bang!" but by song's end glamorous bertha is saying "i need a man who will love me all night long. are you qualified? if not, get off the pot!" then one where she promises to shake it and break it (and maybe hang it on the wall) and she tells "all you womens with big elephant ears" that with her man every day is pay day. then supposedly "part two" of the same song, which means same slinky rhythm track as part one but now with sexy breathy pillow talk all over the top where bertha tells you to lift up her skirt. then finally another good riddance song, this one a tough and funky blues, where he leaves her with a sink full of dishes in a "one-room [some word i can't make out]", hence the best dishwashing song since ray parker jr's "bad boy" if not anita ward's "ring my bell." also she brings him food in bed, which means this might also be a breakfast breakup song in the tradition of the 5th dimension's "one less bell to answer" and karyn white's "superwoman." five songs total, but two around 4:00, three around 4:25, which means glamorous bertha takes her time and surely deserves a lover with a slow hand.

-- xhuxk (xedd...), February 23rd, 2006.

the legendary moody scott, *simply moody: we gotta bust outta the ghetto*: more cdbaby southern soul, from louisiana. cover has moody, a dapper old guy seemingly in his 60s, in front of a rundown rural shack; interesting, since "ghettos" are usually assumed to be urban, right? first track "bustin out of the ghetto" is a sort of james brown rip, five minutes long, where moody as i recall reels off some towns in the south train conducter style (am i imagining this? i THINK he did that, anyway) and ends singing "america america god grant his grace on thee." then he covers tyrone davis's great "can i change my mind," my favorite track. and from there the more soul oriented stuff ("last two dollars," the misspelled cheated-on song "one man's hppiness" which for some reason makes me think of billy stewart sitting in the park even though billy had a high voice and moody really doesn't, "something you got baby") is more likeable, to me, than the more blatantly blues stuff, but then again i always think that. both the soul and blues are generic, i suppose; with the soul i don't mind. best song title: "annie mae cafe." and the closer "son of a southern man" starts with moody telling his guitarist "tattoo" suarez ("my man from argentina") about his grandpa drinking corn liquor and singing "downhome blues". so yeah, country for sure.
-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 11th, 2006.


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He does get urban and/or urbane once, though -- a nice slinky silk-shirt early '80s style quiet storm soul croon called "The Best of Me." (Not sure if any songs other than the Tyrone Davis are covers. "Last Two Dollars" and "Annie Mae Cafe" are writing-credited to one George Jackson; wasn't there a soul singer of that name once? But if so, I never heard him, though.)
-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 11th, 2006.


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"something you got baby" wouldn't be chris kenner's "something you got" would it? since moody's from louisiana...and yeah, george jackson (I'm assuming it's the same guy--I don't know "annie mae cafe") wrote z.z. hill's "down home blues" and a lot of stuff for candi staton, clarence carter, pickett, james carr; a memphis guy who later worked for malaco and wrote for all them: johnnie taylor, latimore, shirley brown, bobby bland...
enjoying jace everett, so far. it's quite a collection of somewhat off-the-wall guitar effects, interesting guitar chromatics (as in the first song), definitely a '70s pop thing happening; and in my mode of concurrent listening (lately it's been dusty springfield/the latest numero group comp of obscure '70s female singers/the new, beautiful nara leão bossa "nara '67"; and jace/radney foster/jessi colter, partly because they all have cool first names, I guess) I notice that both radney and jace hark back to stiff records, which I find interesting.

xps

-- edd s hurt (eddshur...), March 11th, 2006.

George Jackson was an occasional great old soul singer on Goldwax then Hi, and kind of a house writer at both. I'll try to remember tomorrow (just in from a party, and why I'm doing this rather than going straight to bet I've no idea) to YSI his absolutely magnificent Aretha, Sing One For Me. He was among the greatest writers in southern soul - he wrote for Ann Peebles, O.V. Wright, Otis Clay, James Carr, Clarence Carter, Etta James, Denise LaSalle, Wilson Pickett, Candi Staton and even wrote the Osmonds' first hit!
-- Martin Skidmore (lonewolf.cu...), March 12th, 2006.


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if I'm not mistaken, Alvin Robinson recorded for AFO (All for One), a New Orleans label of the '60s that Harold Battiste started; house band included Toussaint and Red Tyler. And he had a hit with Kenner's "Something You Got" (which was later covered by lots of folks, including Bobby Womack, who did a reggae remake on his "Safety Zone" LP in the mid-'70s. Alvin Robinson also recorded for Leiber and Stoller at Red Bird in New York, and did a real classic called "Down Home Girl."
I gotta get that Moody Scott record.

-- edd s hurt (eddshur...), March 12th, 2006.

That YSI:
George Jackson - Aretha, Sing One For Me
It'd be in my top 100 favourite singles ever, I think.

-- Martin Skidmore (lonewolf.cu...), March 12th, 2006.


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>I gotta get that Moody Scott record.<
I have an extra copy, Edd! I'll send it to you.

-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 12th, 2006.


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great! thanks Chuck!

-- edd s hurt (eddshur...), March 12th, 2006.


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>I don't know anything much about Moody Scott, just a handful of tracks, <
So Martin, did Moody have regional hits or something? I never heard of him before I saw his cdbaby page, and haven't really taken time to research him. I'm surprised you even heard of him!

-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 12th, 2006.

I don't know, Chuck, but bear in mind that I've been a huge fan of soul for a long time, and do know quite a lot about it (though not as much as Eddie, I'm pretty sure). The odd track does get on compilations of one sort or another, which suggests that Moody isn't incredibly obscure - but I don't even know exactly where he worked or anything, so he isn't famous either, clearly.
-- Martin Skidmore (lonewolf.cu...), March 12th, 2006.

also really liking irma thomas's *after the rain* on rounder, the "rain" obviously being katrina, though i kind of hate the mooshy shelter-from-storm piano ballad the album ends with though i do hope it provides solace to new orleans. what i love so far is "flowers" (soul about flowers on roadsides after car crashes, with a sound that i swear reminds me of "uncle tom's cabin" by warrant), "make me a pallet on the floor" (cheating with a painter, wow), "till i can't take it anymore" (country music in a soul voice, about how "you work your thing so well/I dream of heaven and live here in hell"), "these honey dos" (vampy bawdy boogie woogie where the honey dos are at first temptations but wind up also being about manners like please and thank you), and "stone survivor" (which is just plain funky).

-- xhuxk (xedd...), May 5th, 2006.

And Irma also does an extremely gorgeous version of "I Count the Tears" (the "na-na-na-na-na-na late at night" song) by the Drifters..
-- xhxuk (xedd...), May 5th, 2006.


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And she also does "Another Man Done Gone," a trad blues tune I swear I've heard hundreds of times by some huge classic rock group (Creem? Zep? the Allmans? somebody...), though no classic rock groups seem to be listed on AMG as doing it, so maybe whoever did it (which will probably hit me as really obvious once I found out) did it under a different title or something, or maybe with different words? (Also, I'm thinking now that maybe "These Honey Dos" and "Stone Survivor" and the palette one aren't quite at the level of the Warrant one and the country one and the Drifters one, but they're close.) -- xhuxk (xedd...), May 5th, 2006.

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also liking (speaking of southern soul) *candy licker: the sex & soul of marvin sease* (jive/legacy) not all of which concerns muff diving, and at least "hoochie mama" of which has zapp-style robot-funk freakazoids reciting the names of several of the united states.

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), June 12th, 2006.

*Most of the Marvin Sease album is gloppy ballads which aren't all that good, but some of it is kinda fun. (The first track is awful though.)

-- Haikunym (zinogu...), June 13th, 2006.


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Marvin Sease CD is way less gloppy and ballady than Matt suggests (or maybe I just have a higher glop tolerance than he does; see also the Alan Bros!); most of it gets a good '70s smooth-jazzy funk disco groove going. And lots of the songs have pre-old-school "raps" (i.e., talking as singing, sometimes like a preacher's sermon) in them, which are really fun. And sure, the opening track "Do You Want a Licker?" is awful if you want it to be, but it's just too silly to complain about; ditto the other bookend, a five-minute live "Candy Licker 2005." Also, the ballads are pretty good, for the most part. "Don't Forget to Tell On You" sounds kind of like "Tell it Like It Is." But my favorite cuts are probably "I'm Mr Jody," the backdoor man song that starts with an ominous phone call, and the 12-step fix-your-life number "I Gotta Clean Up." (Has anybody ever written a good essay about Jody? He's the guy back on the block who's having sex to your girl while you're in the Army, and I get the idea he shows up in lots of Southern soul songs: Doesn't Johnnie Taylor have one about him, too*? As do, I would assume, other folks.)

* - yep, I just checked Whitburn: "Jody's Got Your Girl and Gone," went to number 28 in 1971. (Hey, sounds like a good EMP proposal!)

-- xhuxk (xhux...), June 14th, 2006.


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having sex WITH (or) making love TO.
and courtesy of HIS new truck.
).

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), June 14th, 2006.


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Johnnie Taylor was the king of Jody songs. "Standing In for Jody" and "Jody's Got Your Girl and Gone" are just two; I mean every song he does is kind of about Jody-ism in some way or another. I am a nut for Johnnie Taylor (I like Johnny Taylor a lot, too, and Ted Taylor, the Louisiana soul singer, is also excellent--so I think an EMP paper on the Sooper Taylors would be good!!), and Taylor is also the king of fucking-around songs. There are these nifty new Stax reissues that includes stuff by Frederick Knight, the Dramatics, etc., and if you ask me one of the very best Stax albums-as-albums is Johnnie's "Who's Making Love," which is the typical collection of singles but which really has variety and which totally hangs together. "Hold On This Time" has a great Cropper riff, cubist guitar, and "Woman Across the River" is one of the best Stax blues ever.
I only know the older, cunnilingual and happy to oblige, ma'am, Marvin Sease stuff--he's really good. "Marvin Sease" on London from late '80s is a good 'un. One of those artists who've been working the I-55 corridor from Memphis to the Louisiana border, forever.

-- edd s hurt (eddshur...), June 14th, 2006.


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Well, a Taylors EMP report would probably be really interesting, but I was thinking (theoretically, not volunteering!) more in terms of one about Jody himself. Who was he? And how far back do Jody songs go? Did Johnnie Taylor invent them? Or does Jody show up in blue songs during World War II or something? Was he a real person, like maybe Stagger Lee? (Was Shine who swam the Titanic a real person? I forget.) Seems like real *Mystery Train* mythology stuff, and I'm surprised nobody has tackled the research (unless they have and I just didn't notice, which is very possible. I haven't even done a google search.) (Also, do I only associate Jody with making cuckolds of military guys stationed overseas because I was *in* the military, and he was always showing up in cadences used while marching and/or running? Or is that his main deal? And otherwise, to what extent if any does he exist outside of the culture of Southern blacks--who, when I was in, seemed to make up a sizable portion of the Army?)
-- xhuxk (fakemai...), June 14th, 2006.


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This could really be hella interesting, absolutely. Is "Trapped in the Closet" the Ulysses of Jody songs?
-- Haikunym (zinogu...), June 14th, 2006.

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Here's some info I found while googling Jody songs:
http://soulfuldetroit.com/archives/10238/9918.html?1079610632

-- Sang Freud (jstrell...), June 14th, 2006.


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x-post. Taylor didn't invent the Jody song. Jody / Jodie / Joe the Grinder are pretty common figures in blues tunes.There's Louis Armstrong's "Jodie Man" which makes the "GI Joe de man" connection explicit. I wouldn't be surprised if that military connection is at the origin, though it's obviously gone through lots of transformations.
-- Roy Kasten (rfkaste...), June 14th, 2006.


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Yeah, I'd forgotten Joe The Grinder. I used to own a copy of that *Get Your Ass in the Water and Swim Like Me* prison-rap comp (on Smithsonian or Rounder or something?), and I think there might even be a Joe the Grinder rhyme on there (I *may* even have mentioned it in the pre-rap rap chapter of my second book). Anyway, this link from the link above has great stuff about Jody Army cadences; also says Johnnie Taylor himself learned about Jody while in the military:
http://p211.ezboard.com/fwordoriginsorgfrm4.showMessage?topicID=153.topic

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), June 14th, 2006.


xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

all white chitlin circuit

and what (ooo), Sunday, 19 November 2006 21:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

huh?

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Sunday, 19 November 2006 21:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

My man Mel Waiters "Throw Back Days" song is still in the top 5 on the soulandbluesreport.com chart

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Sunday, 19 November 2006 21:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

Hey Edd and Chuck, there's a song called "Jody's creepin'" by Mr. David (Tony Mercedes label) (?) on that soulandbluesreport.com chart. I bet it might fit in with those 'jody' songs you guys were talking about.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Sunday, 19 November 2006 22:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

http://bluescritic.com/BluesCriticAwards.html

another source of info on current soul

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 20 November 2006 00:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

from bluescritic.com (they nominate albums from 10/05 to 11/06):

Best Southern Soul/R & B Album Of 2006

I'M THE MAN YOU NEED by Theodis Ealey (Ifgam)
THROWBACK DAYS by Mel Waiters (Waldoxy)
DON'T STOP MY PARTY by Donnie Ray (Ecko)
GIFTED by Willie Clayton (Malaco)
GWEN MCCRAE SINGS TK by Gwen McCrae (Henry Stone)
HERE KITTY KITTY by Billy Soul Bonds (Waldoxy)
THE ROAD OF LOVE by Renea Mitchell (Jomar)
NEVER COMING HOME by Betty Padgett (Meia)
NEW LEASE ON LIFE by William Bell (Wilbe)
THANK YOU FOR HOLDING ON by Sir Charles Jones (Jumpin')
IT AIN'T OVER TIL IT'S OVER by J. Blackfoot (JEA Music)
DOWN LOW BROTHER by Barbara Carr (Ecko)
WORTH THE WAIT by Omar Cunningham (EndZone)
TIME TO GET LOOSE by Kenne' Wayne (Goodtime)

Best Southern Soul/Blues Album Of 2006

GHOSTS OF MISSISSIPPI by Joey Gilmore (Bluzpik)
SICILY MOON by Roy Roberts (Rock House)
MASTER OF THE GAME by Jackie Payne-Steve Edmonson Band (Delta G
PIONEERS & LEGENDS by Bobby Warren (KonKord)
JUST ME by Walter Waiters (self)
BACKSTABBERS by Maurice Davis (Touring)
BE WITH ME TONIGHT by Preston Shannon (Title Tunes)
OUT OF THE SHADOWS by Little Phil (Coffeehouse)
I'M STILL HERE by Trudy Lynn (Sawdust Alley)
ONE MORE HIT by Clarence Carter (Cee Gee Ent.)
STANDING AT THE CROSSROADS by Frankie Lee (Blues Express)
STARTS WITH A P by Lee Shot Williams (Ecko)
LIFE WITH WOMEN by Bob Steele (Sound Mindz)

Southern Soul/Soul Blues Song Of 2006

THE BLACKER THE BERRY by Chairmen Of The Board (Xcel)
GOING CRAZY by Willie Clayton (Malaco)
SCAT CAT...HERE KITTY KITTY by Billy Soul Bonds (Waldoxy)
NEW LEASE ON LIFE by William Bell (Wilbe)
SEVENTEEN DAYS (Of LOVING) by Renea Mitchell (Jomar)
MR. DO RIGHT by Ms. Monique (Soul Ent.)
YO' DRESS IS TOO SHORT by Bob Steele (Sound Mindz)
DON'T STOP MY PARTY by Donnie Ray (Ecko)
HAS IT COME TO THIS by Gregg A. Smith (G Man)
U CAN'T RAISE HER by Steve Perry (Bluesland)
FRANCINE by Theodis Ealey (Make Cents)
MY NAME IS $$$ by Miz B (Hep Me)
ARE YOU READY FOR THE BLUES by Clarence Carter (Cee Gee Ent.)
NEVER COMING HOME by Betty Padgett (Meia)
DROP THAT THANG by Sir Charles Jones (Jumpin')
THROWBACK DAYS by Mel Waiters (Waldoxy)

Best Slow Jam Of 2006

IF THE SHOE WAS ON THE OTHER FOOT by Kenne' Wayne (Goodtime)
GOOD LOVIN' WILL MAKE YOU CRY by Carl Marshall (Unleashed)
HEAVEN SENT ME AN ANGEL by Wendell B (Cuzzo)
DEDICATED TO THE ONE by Wilson Meadows (BGR)
I'M JUST A FOOL FOR YOU by J. Blackfoot & Lenny Williams (JEA)
U CAN'T RAISE HER by Steve Perry (Bluesland)
CREEPIN' AIN'T EASY by Vick Allen (Waldoxy)
JODY'S CREEPIN' by Mr. David (Tony Mercedes)
BOOM BOOM BOOM by Willie Clayton (Malaco)
SCAT CAT...HERE KITTY KITTY by Billy Soul Bonds (Waldoxy)
NEVER MISS A GOOD THANG by Sir Charles Jones (Jumpin')

Best Dance Song Of 2006

MS JODY by Ms. Jody (Ecko)
DON'T STOP MY PARTY by Donnie Ray (Ecko)
SHAKE & SHIMMY by Larome Powers (Waldoxy)
FRANCINE by Theodis Ealey (Make Cents)
DROP THAT THANG by Sir Charles Jones (Jumpin')
I'M READY TO PARTY by Bigg Robb (Over 25)
BIG HAND MAN by Sheba Potts-Wright (Ecko)
MISSISSIPPI BOY by Charles Wilson (HMU)
THROWBACK DAYS by Mel Waiters (Waldoxy)
WORK ME 'TIL I SWEAT by Lady Audrey (Studio Showtime)
MISSISSIPPI CHA CHA SLIDE by Mixx Master Lee (Team Airplay)
SHO NUFF by The Bar Kays (JEA)
I AIN'T GOING WHERE YOU GO by Pat Cooley (L & L)

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 20 November 2006 14:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
One of my Don Quijote like quests (that I really should try to put in a review or longer article) is to convince some of ya that the drum machine and synth work on Malaco and Ecko and other Southern African-American indie labels is not as cheesy now as it once was, and you should embrace some of their artists just the way you like Solomon Burke going country or Sharon Jones or that Brit guy on Rounder who I heard about on NPR. I posted a comment on Pete Margasak's Chicago Reader blog about this (in response to his rave about some soulster covering a Will Oldham indie song), and in my Jackin' Pop comments I highlighted my Mel Waiters selection--

"Think you can learn all you need to know about music from blogs and chatboards. I don't think so. Mel Waiters' brand of rhythm 'n' blues was ignored by Ne-yo fans on myspace, hipster bloggers, aging bluesrockers, and NPR devotees. Waiters, via some key Southern American radio stations and clubs, however found a largely 45 and up African-American audience that embraced his soulful tales of looking for love that he sung over contemporary keyboard lines that were more vibrant than the cheesy synthwork associated since the '80s with chitlin circuit soul."

Right now I am listening to a cheapo Tower Records bankruptcy sale purchase--The Best of Barbara Carr--on Ecko. ALright, her version of the electric slide, "Hoochie Dance" is kinda cheesy, but "Bone Me Like You Own Me," "Cut the Mustard," "I've Been Partying at the Hole in the Wall," and others are earthy, fun and catchy. Yea, there's nothing that clever or innovative in the arrangements or the lyrics, but there's also an art to simple, clever hooks and there are plenty of those here. Barbara's gospel-rooted vocals are pretty special too.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Sunday, 7 January 2007 06:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

that Brit guy on Rounder who I heard about on NPR

I love this phrase.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 January 2007 06:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

That Barbara Carr best-of is probably one of the few Ecko releases I can listen to front to back. It's right up there with Dr. Feelgood Potts.

I love double-entendre chitlin-circuit soul-blues, but Ecko Records always seems to put out the worst records in the genre. (And they should invest in a real photographer - those blurred Kodak photos on their covers ain't gonna get it!) So when an artist as good Carr or Potts comes along on the Ecko imprint, that's a thing to come by! Not that they're doing anything drastically different from the rest of the stable, they just go one step further and do it better?? Can't pinpoint it - just better material, I reckon.

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Sunday, 7 January 2007 15:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
Big March 17th show at Show Place Arena, 14900 Pennsylvania Ave, Upper Marlboro. Artists scheduled to appear include Bobby Blue Bland, Marvin Sease, Mel Waiters, Roy C, Theodis Ealey, Latimore, Shirley Brown, and Clarence Carter. Doors open at 6 pm

curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 February 2007 18:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

Upper Marlboro is in Maryland, near D.C. The show is part of a 26 city US Tour. According to Chitlin Circuit Magazine "10,000 blues music lovers filled the Houston Reliant Arena February 3, 2007 for a date on the tour. "The first [show] of the 26 city blues tour started in Biloxi, Mississippi.... The Saturday Houston show started off with Mr.Bobby Rush and his famous dancers. Then Latimore, Sir Charles Jones, Shirley Brown, Theodis Ealey, Bobby Bland, Mel Waiters, and Marvin Sease closed the show in a style all of his own. Chitlin Circuit Magazine

curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 February 2007 19:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

"famous dancers"

Hah. I remember seeing Bobby Rush and said dancers at an outdoor multi-act blues concert at Wolf Trap Farm Park, outside of DC and I think its run by the National Park Service. Well, lots of picnicers were suprised by the bottom-shaking, hip twisting dancers. Rush and the dancers were great, as was watching the dropped jaws of some of the folks in attendance.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 25 February 2007 14:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

Bobby Bland's snorting that he does when he's reaching for high notes can be kind of disconcerting.

curmudgeon, Monday, 26 February 2007 01:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...
I was not that wowed by Jim Bennett & Lady Mary when I saw them at Lamonts a year or 2 back, but their new single "Sometimes" (JaBen label) that has been receiving lots of Saturday afternoon WPFW airplay is a great laidback soul duet. It just debuted at 25 on the bluescritic.com Southern Soul radio chart

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 04:35 (7 years ago) Permalink

the bluescritic list is, it's, locked in. anyone on this thread actually heard the willie clayton CD on malaco mentioned in that list's "best albums '06"? if I am not mistaken, willie does george soulé's "trust" on it. but shit, that is some real greasiness there. "chitlin circuit magazine"? holy cow. shirley brown.
listening right now to the nifty new reissue of carla thomas' '69 "queen alone." pretty cool. and i guess johnnie taylor's stax mostly-reissue, "live at summit club," belongs on this thread--my-t greazy too.

whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

I have not heard the Clayton cd, unless I heard songs from it on DC station WPFW that plays lots of Southern soul artists on Saturday mornings and afternoons but does not always say the names. The bluescritic.com charts are a bit confusing. Some artists stay locked in there for months. My fave, Mel Waiters-Throwback Days, for example. A few things come and go.

Southern soul radio chart for one week in March

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 22:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

So few reviews online of that 26 city US tour with Bland, Sease, Latimore etc. Too bad it's not getting more mainstream or hipster blog attention.

curmudgeon, Friday, 23 March 2007 14:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

Just posted this on country thread:

Also listening tonight to 2004 chitlin-circuit cdbaby soul (as in: everything from blues to disco to absolutely unabasedly schmoove-jazzed schmaltz) by Bobby Wayne; "This House is Haunted" sounds the best so far, but "Homestead Greys" (despite sounding curiously singer-songwriterly) rules by virtue of being the most blatant Negro League tribute I've ever heard:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/bobbywayne

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 March 2007 02:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

"On The Drift" is Bobby Wayne at his most country; "Time" is Bobby Wayne at his most jazz; and "Dig Yourself" (basically a check yourself before you wreck yourself with some other woman advice-type song) is as good as "This House Is Haunted."

xhuxk, Sunday, 25 March 2007 15:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...
I gotta check out that "Homestead Grays" song

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:46 (7 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

The Gator on WPFW 89.3 and online just played "Junk in the Trunk (I Like that)" and "Slap That Booty."

curmudgeon, Saturday, 2 June 2007 18:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

Have you ever heard Joe Poonanny, the Weird Al of this genre?

novamax, Sunday, 3 June 2007 01:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

I had not but I see he's from Alabama and put out some cds with plenty of suggestive song titles on Waldoxy, a Malaco subsidiary.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 3 June 2007 04:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

So many performers to discover...but somehow must find the time. R. Kelly's beginning to sound like these guys

curmudgeon, Sunday, 3 June 2007 14:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

I just finally listened to samples of the 2004 Bobby Wayne cd Chuck mentioned back in March. Some impressive moments. I love that ache in his voice feel Wayne has on "This Heart is Haunted," and the women backing vocalists provide luscious help on the chorus and some great harmonies. "Homestead Greys" is a bit forced lyrically--"They hit a ball 500 feet, past a place they couldn't eat," but I like it anyway.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 3 June 2007 19:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/45804/biker-festival-at-american-legion-post-170-sunday-may-25/

Sunday--Mel Waiters and Ms. Jody live, kinda near me. Should be great

curmudgeon, Thursday, 22 May 2014 15:15 (4 months ago) Permalink

If I had used southern soul in the title of this thread instead of "chitlin circuit" I guess a few more people would have posted here. But they'd probably just talk about collector vinyl reissues of obscure 60s soul

curmudgeon, Friday, 23 May 2014 13:43 (4 months ago) Permalink

Nothing wrong with that stuff, I just like my Mel Waiters with his synthesizer and guitar rhythms and 2014 lyrics also

curmudgeon, Friday, 23 May 2014 13:45 (4 months ago) Permalink

Not southern soul but coming out soon on Shout UK that might be of interest:

Willie Jones, ‘soul’ singer, from Detroit with album recorded in Nashville with guest input from Steve Cropper, produced by Jon Tiven, recorded about 18 months ago

curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 May 2014 14:31 (4 months ago) Permalink

Had fun at the Black Biker fest Sunday. Mel Waiters rushed through his set, but his voice still sounded great. MS. Jody was soulful and sometimes over-the-top raunchy with her tongue. D.C. area band the Hardway Connection were wonderful. Their male and female lead singers have strong effective voices. I missed Louisiana's Ghetto cowboy but met him and bought his cd.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 03:24 (4 months ago) Permalink

Both Waiters and Ms. Jody had great old-school proficient soul bands but with keyboards of course to add some modern flavor. Waiters had a young sax player, and 2 keyboardists in addition to bass, guitar, drums and a femal vocalist. All the guys in matching vests; while Waiterswas in his trademark shiny blue long suit jacket

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 20:36 (4 months ago) Permalink

I need to recruit elsewhere for more folks who will comment here

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 15:41 (4 months ago) Permalink

Mel Waiters is more interesting to me than ilx fave Owen Padgett

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 17:49 (3 months ago) Permalink

And more impressive than Future Islands too

curmudgeon, Friday, 6 June 2014 15:44 (3 months ago) Permalink

Curtis Harding (young Atlanta guitar-playing soul singer on Burger records) is getting more pixels and ink attention these days then Mel Waiters. I have not heard him yet.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 7 June 2014 14:18 (3 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I listened to a song from Harding that I kinda liked.

I need to hear more, plus more Southern soul. A pal of mine saw Millie Jackson down in South Carolina. She came on so late (lots of acts on the bill & problems changing between them) he said that there weren't may folks still there by the time she came onstage. Mel Waiters was also on the bill

curmudgeon, Thursday, 26 June 2014 18:17 (3 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Couldn't get my nephews and nieces to line-dance to Ms. Jody at my wedding reception. She sounded great though...

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 13:44 (2 months ago) Permalink

Part of a Spotify offline playlist. She was not actually there, alas.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 13:45 (2 months ago) Permalink

Gonna be elsewhere Saturday and have to miss Nellie Tiger Travis at Lamonts. Too bad, southern soul shows don't happen too often in the DC area

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:00 (2 months ago) Permalink

Carolina beach music

fyi

curmudgeon, Monday, 4 August 2014 17:47 (1 month ago) Permalink

xchuckx come back, I need someone else here who cares about music made by older African-Americans that is not jazz. Its obscurity and the signifiers with it, seem to discourage others from listening.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 August 2014 14:02 (1 month ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Y'all are going to these events, right? courtesy Daddy B. Nice's calendar at southernsoulrnb.com

8 pm, Friday, August 29, 2014. Bastrop Municipal Center, 1901 Moeller Dr., Bastrop, Louisiana. Carl Sims, T.K. Soul, Ms. Jody. Doors open at 7 pm. 318-512-3614, 318-283-3320.

Friday, August 29, 2014. M & J Lounge, 132 Georgetown St., Hazlehurst, Mississippi. Monica Short Birthday Party. LaMorris Williams, Dave Mack, T-Baby. 601-214-2095. BYOB. Doors open at 8 pm.

Friday, August 29 and Saturday, August 30, 2014. Bottleneck Blues Bar, Ameristar Casino Hotel, 4146 Washington Street, Vicksburg, Mississippi. Back-to-back CD Release Parties. Grady Champion. 800-700-7770.

7 pm, Saturday, August 30, 2014. Union County Fairgrounds, 334 W. Hillsboro St., El Dorado, Arkansas. 9th Annual Southern Soul Showdown. Vick Allen, Avail Hollywood, Jeff Floyd, Willie P., Columbus Toy, Nicky Parrish. Gates open at 6 pm. 870-866-7441 or 870-864-0350.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:22 (1 month ago) Permalink

Ooh just noticed this Sat. the 30th event near me: Bolling Club, Joint Base Anacostia-Bolling, 50 Theisen St., Washington, DC. Millie Jackson. 202-563-8400.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:03 (1 month ago) Permalink

David Whiteis, author of a book on southern soul, is not on twitter. Not surprising

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 16:59 (1 month ago) Permalink

I did see Hardway Connection once this summer so i don't feel that bad about missing them now for free at Carter barron in DC. But maybe I do

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 August 2014 16:34 (1 month ago) Permalink

Certainly as fun as FKA Twigs or some Sonic Youth member's latest band,

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 August 2014 16:35 (1 month ago) Permalink

WPFW 89.3 dj (online too) just played Theodis Ealey's "Stand Up in It". Still sounds good. Now he's playing Shirley Brown's smouldering "I've gotta sleep with one eye open"

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 August 2014 19:18 (1 month ago) Permalink

Mel Waiters "Got My Whiskey" is a great one too

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 August 2014 19:47 (1 month ago) Permalink

6 pm, Sunday, September 7, 2014. Club Me & U, 820 Cooper Road, Suite H (Candlestick Shopping Center), Jackson, Mississippi. Charles Evers Birthday Bash. Willie Clayton, Bobby Rush, Reverend Joe A. Washington, LaMorris Williams, Ms. Jody, Nellie "Tiger" Travis, Little Miss Soul, T-Baby. Doors open at 4 pm. Admission at the door only. BYOB. 601-398-0784.

So many fun acts

curmudgeon, Sunday, 31 August 2014 17:07 (1 month ago) Permalink

http://www.southernsoulrnb.com/corner2014.cfm

Lots of fascinating observations and references and links to music that is happening now. Southern soul lives!

curmudgeon, Sunday, 31 August 2014 17:20 (1 month ago) Permalink

Maybe I should start posting youtubes here

curmudgeon, Thursday, 4 September 2014 15:16 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

WDIA AM in Memphis plays southern soul every Saturday from 6 am to midnight. You just have to put up with a bunch of psas and commercials on the half-hour. Its online

curmudgeon, Saturday, 6 September 2014 22:01 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

No one else but xChuckxx cares here, but I got Memphis, Tennessee AM radio (and online) listeners who got my back. Was great hearing Ms. Jody and others ...There are also a number of online only southern soul stations plus other radio simulcast ones, like one from Jackson, Mississippi. Now if I could only get their listeners to post here. There's a new OB Buchanan album out again, to talk about

curmudgeon, Monday, 8 September 2014 13:44 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

SO much cool stuff to listen to...It's relevant now music (just made by over 40 and 50 and 60 people who are not connected to the twitter/instagram/pitchfork/fader/bbc/npr world)

curmudgeon, Saturday, 27 September 2014 13:31 (3 days ago) Permalink


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