Siltbreeze Records: Search! Destroy!

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oh yeah, the first yips single, 100% fox is awesome, I never liked the LP nearly as much.

Speaking of Jim Shephard. Anyone know who ran Ropeburn or what happened to that label?

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 26 March 2004 19:15 (twenty years ago) link

"Emulsified" was Gibson Bros., sorry Mr. Broheems (i'm full of apologies today for you! ;-D ). i think maybe Peg from the Gories is drumming on that one.

It's a Rex Garvin & The Mighty Gravers cover.

Yo La Tengo recorded their version backed by The Pussywillows (April March's old band).

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 26 March 2004 19:20 (twenty years ago) link

I always thought Un were really boring live. I liked the shadow ring live though. they were kooky.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 26 March 2004 19:21 (twenty years ago) link

Also S: Renderers: A Dream of the Sea

Speaking of Jim Shephard. Anyone know who ran Ropeburn or what happened to that label?

I knew the guy -- Doug Zimmerman was his name. He was a clerk at a record store in South Bend adjacent to the Notre Dame campus called Tracks. In the late '80s/early '90s he and his father opened what is now a small chain of huge record stores in the SB area called Orbit Music, and I think that's what took over his life, along with having a family. I think there was a second release on the label but I'm drawing a blank right now.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 26 March 2004 20:20 (twenty years ago) link

You know, the more I ponder this label, the more I'm in awe of Tom Lax's achievement. What were there, 70-odd releases or something? (all in those lovely black & white sleeves!) Used to enjoy reading his writing in Opprobrium too. Does he still do reviews somewhere?

Another question: what was the connection (if any) to Public Pop Can? That Halo Of Flies album is a fine, fine thing.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 26 March 2004 20:22 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, also, Siltbreeze at one time had a manufacturing deal with Matador, along with other labels like Teenbeat, Scat, Crypt, and PCP, but it just didn't work out financially. Revolver then became the distributor for Siltbreeze, but I dunno who decided to pull the plug at the end.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 26 March 2004 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

Oh and search-until-you-can-search-no-more: Alastair Galbraith Morse, one of my favourite records on just about any label.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 26 March 2004 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

Hah! PCP. What about Radial? Drunk Tank, anyone?

God how could I forget that Renderers CD?? Baked Bean Teeth you should punch me the next time I see you. That's a great record.

Didn't Byron have some involvement w/ Pubic Pop Can?

Re: TL's writing - Siltbreeze itself actually started out as a fanzine. Anybody ever read it? I think a friend of mine had a couple copies but I can't remember anything about it.

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 26 March 2004 20:32 (twenty years ago) link

This isn't the first time that an ILM thread has made me miss Philthadelphia. Brings back a lot of memories. Hell, i only moved away last august. I like Tom. I don't know what the deal is with the MacLise stuff. I think my brother was rude to start that thread without knowing more himself. He could have called or e-mailed Tim Barnes if he was that curious. I dunno...

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 26 March 2004 20:38 (twenty years ago) link

nothing new to add, but i endorse nearly everything being said on this thread so far (esp. the mention of Bon Matin by mr. hstencil)

Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 26 March 2004 20:41 (twenty years ago) link

the mclise thread i started was at the behest of jomf captain tom greenwood..who probably felt an affinity with old hippies or something.i dont really care who gets ripped off,as long as the music comes out.Ive seen lax in his fry cook whites and i didnt see any diamond rings on his finger with Hetty Mclise's name on it.

dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Friday, 26 March 2004 20:57 (twenty years ago) link


siltbreeze. woot.

here's a pretty decent disco graphy:

http://gravediggervideo.com/siltbreeze.html

m.

msp, Friday, 26 March 2004 21:35 (twenty years ago) link

Pubic Pop Can was Byron Coley's doing (I think), but he may have had distro/$ assistance from Tom Lax. Did they put out anything besides the JSBX debut and the Halo of Flies record?

Rob, I have a few issues of Siltbreeze sitting in my 'zine boxes in the basement. My most vivid memories of these are the naked black chicks on the front, and an Amphetamine Reptile ad that displayed an impressive anger toward Mike McGonigal.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 26 March 2004 22:42 (twenty years ago) link

Can't believe anyone could hate on that UN LP - it's by far my favorite Siltbreeze release (and I have 90% of them - i was quite the Siltbreeze fanboy in the early nineties)

Sam Esh was cool too! What are yall crazy??!?

If i had to 'destroy' any, I'd say that Alan Licht LP is a real snoozer, and the Ashtrav Nav LP was not Phil's best. Ashtabula blah (tho all Fieldhands = classic). Other than that, though, Dead C, Tower Recordings, Shadow Ring...c'mon!!! Those are some of the best bands ever!!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 26 March 2004 22:43 (twenty years ago) link

also - ever heard the Sunshine Super Scum 7"?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 26 March 2004 22:48 (twenty years ago) link

am i blind or has no one mentioned "ride a dove" yet?!

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 26 March 2004 23:40 (twenty years ago) link

an Amphetamine Reptile ad that displayed an impressive anger toward Mike McGonigal

What exactly was with all the McGonigal haters back in those days? I seem to remember Albini being snarky towards him in FE for some reason (it was pretty hard to get a handle on US fanzine politics from where I was sat). Chemical Imbalance turned me on to a big bunch of amazing things - Slovenly, Mofungo, Ut and I don't know what. Oh and loads of books and comics and stuff. Gorgeous artwork too.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 26 March 2004 23:48 (twenty years ago) link

(But he can stick his Loud Fast Rules 7" right up his kazoo)

NickB (NickB), Friday, 26 March 2004 23:50 (twenty years ago) link

BBT, I think that reissue of the first High Rise lp was also on Pubic Pop Can. Can't think of anything else though.

Dunno what was up with the FE/CI beef. Narcissism of small differences? Yetimike himself was posting here for a few weeks, but he seems to have disappeared lately. Good autobiographical piece by him here:

http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0052/arts-mcgonigal.shtml

Broheems (diamond), Saturday, 27 March 2004 00:13 (twenty years ago) link

that interview contains the following, for those too lazy to go read it:

"In the limited "black bag" edition of Big Black's infamous Headache record, underground guru/scribe Byron Coley wrote a short story in which a character named Mike McGonigal is birthed through the butt of the barber from Mayberry: "There's an art fag sticking out of your keister." This is, in retrospect, the highest compliment I have ever been paid. My agenda was far more gay-, art-, and women-friendly than the prevailing coolster ethos of the day. "

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 27 March 2004 00:20 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, he was posting on ILE a bunch. I can barely remember that fracas back then. I heard one story but everything is so hazy. when in doubt in indieland, it's a money thing. count on it. I loved Chemical Imbalance. Lotsa great stuff in those mags. I think i still have one of those 7 inches too. If i had a gripe against mike it would be for making me buy a Game Theory album that I really hated.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 27 March 2004 00:26 (twenty years ago) link

search = alastair galbraith 'morse', destroy the rest.

keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 27 March 2004 00:40 (twenty years ago) link

mike was REALLY young when he started CI, I think in his mid-teens (14-16). i think the albini/coley pigfuck mindset were intimidated by the breadth of his knowledge at his age.

gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 27 March 2004 00:53 (twenty years ago) link

Hey, that article explains everything, he was on heroin! That explains any stories i might have heard years ago about him owing people money and stuff. Heroin is funny like that. Well, he seems fine now. I'd buy the Yeti thing if I saw it. I liked his goofy reviews in CI.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 27 March 2004 01:02 (twenty years ago) link

Fond memories of the Philly Record Exchange blaring lofi Siltbreeze records out into the outside street on even lower-fi speakers...I think the Dead C Helen Said This 12" was the corker...

Also great memories of the Siltbreeze fest at Khyber... Slave Apartments, Screaming MeeMees, GBV played and all these drunken bighaired Philly club peops spilled into the Khyber just hopping from bar to bar just as Harry Pussy came on. Weird crowds at shows in Philly, which made shows like this even more fun.

Brian Turner (btwfmu), Saturday, 27 March 2004 06:20 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Fusetron has some Siltbreeze stuff for cheap.

hstencil, Tuesday, 20 April 2004 20:15 (twenty years ago) link

"In any case, I think Siltbreeze's stopping had something to do with a deal with Matador or Revolver, which was it? Moving onto the next level but not being able to function. Like how many copies of the Dead C's Whitehouse CD were floating around, and wasn't the next Dead C's record put in Whitehouse digipacks with a new cover glued on top?"

i think it has more to do with tom wanting to explore his cooking more professionally. im serious! he's just as good at making food as he is putting out awesome records.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:15 (twenty years ago) link

you guys have totally forgotten the renderers 'dream of the sea', perhaps the best release on the label..

oh and btw, 3 beads of sweat are still stocking a bit of the old stiltbreeze catelogue, now that they've gone belly up.. the renderers next album is gonna be on that apparently..

chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:23 (twenty years ago) link

Well, good for him. Hey, on the subject of food, I saw a book on vegan cookery by Richard Youngs today, it had a bunch of durian(!)recipes in it credited to Simon Wickham-Smith. I never suspected this underground music/gastronome thing before...

(x-post)

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:25 (twenty years ago) link

Chris, tell me more about the Renderers. I recognise the name as a NZ band, but don't really know much else about them...

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:27 (twenty years ago) link

excellent noise-rock-cum-country outfit out of port chalmers dunedin. led by maryrose and brian crook - who also plays in ther terminals (and has been in flies inside the sun etc), and is one of the finest guitarists around, recently putting out a solo debut as 'bible black'. championed by the likes of xpressway and even flying nun, 'dream of the sea' is their masterpiece, a ocean-themed stormy nightmare of an album dealing with relationships gone sour and drug dependencies, all while rumbling guitar and bass intertwin around them..

..im actually putting on a gig here in christchurch, new zealand with both the renderers and the terminals this friday (hamish kilgours even making a guest appearance with an acoustic set!), i feel like a big name promotor..

chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:38 (twenty years ago) link

Maria and Tom Lax should come here me DJ at Making Time in Philly this friday, where I will rock doubles of Charalambides.

OK, maybe not.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:40 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks Chris - and good luck!

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:48 (twenty years ago) link

dan, i already planned on seeing you spin this friday!

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 22:33 (twenty years ago) link

not only did tom write a fanzine called siltbreeze, he is [supposedly**] the mastermind behind cherry coke*, the 'zine that rocked the summer of 2001.


* not to be confused with cherry coke!.

** all fingers were pointed at me, but i had nothing to do with it. however, i thought it was awesome and hilarious.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 22:38 (twenty years ago) link

I can vouch for Mr. Lax's cooking skills! He whipped up an impromptu 2 AM meal for us once that was amazing.

Whatever happened to Mac?

I'm happy to see Chris's Renderers love - they are indeed great. Brian is an awesome guitarist. I really need to hear his solo album.

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 22:48 (twenty years ago) link

I dunno, I borrowed TRAPDOOR FUCKING EXIT from a friend again, and really wanted to like it, but I don't...yet. I'm not giving up yet. Maybe I need to be in the right mindset.

Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 23:23 (twenty years ago) link

recently putting out a solo debut as 'bible black'.

actually, that's his second solo album; the first is "bathysphere" and it was on metonymic. just to be anal. it's really good, has some stuff in the more terminals/rock style (including a song that is a re-done scorched earth policy number), some quiet downer tunes. little bit of noise. i definitely need to hear "bible black" but it doesn't seem like anyone's distributing it in the US.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 23:28 (twenty years ago) link

Mac is still in Philly as far as I know. He has always had a good full-time gig. I lost touch with him a bit after he moved from Siltbreeze central on 20th st. Mac actually gave me every Siltbreeze record that I own. He's one of the cranky motherfuckers that I miss when I think about Philly. And Ellen too. Not that anyone knows who Ellen is, but we wuz pals. Well, Siltbreeze folk know who she is.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 23:31 (twenty years ago) link

well true i guess it is the 2nd.. i have bathysphere.. its a bit different, kinda more atmospheric..

bible black is basically the renderers under a different name, but just brian fronting. its very good, very minimal - find the song 'baby doll' to get a taster, has this great mellow rambling conversation going until BAM! brian hits you with a giant WALL of guitar..

maryrose is putting out an album herself too, apparently its going to be 'maryrose crook and the renderers', whilst brian's third solo album is maybe closer to bathysphere - i.e. in the more 'experimental' vein..

chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 23:55 (twenty years ago) link

oh btw - did you guys get the scorched earth policy compilation 'keep away from the wires'?, its excellent, compiling ALL the incredibly rare material they released back in the early 80s, along with demo tapes and whatnot that mick elborado had stored.. its on metonymic too

chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 23:58 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, that scorched earth policy cd is goddamn great. totally slept on.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 03:25 (twenty years ago) link

''I dunno, I borrowed TRAPDOOR FUCKING EXIT from a friend again, and really wanted to like it, but I don't...yet. I'm not giving up yet. Maybe I need to be in the right mindset.''

that one took a while for me too.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 07:46 (twenty years ago) link

hmm.. trapdoor fucking exit was the first Dead C I picked up, and it was instantly lovable. it seemed just like EVOL-era sonic youth (who i was really into at the time [still am]) taken to its logical conclusion. also, the really epic stuff like "helen said this" appealed to my love of, well, drugs.

xo

i4n j0hnson, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 16:38 (twenty years ago) link

forgot to add that it took me a while but then did fall in luv with the record.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 16:39 (twenty years ago) link

I'm compelled to step in and offer huge love for Brother JT's "Music for the Other Head" -- my favorite Siltbreeze record -- search search search.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 16:56 (twenty years ago) link

Haven't heard that one at all. Could probably use a wee Brother JT search & destroy. All I've got are a couple of (very rocking) Original Sins records.

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 17:29 (twenty years ago) link

I just started a JT S/D. As an html mo-ron, I don't know how to link to it.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 17:50 (twenty years ago) link

JT S/D, for y'all.

hstencil, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 17:56 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
I must say that Tower Recordings have finally surpassed Sonic Youth as my favorite band, and their Siltbreeze record, "Furniture Music for Evening Shuttles", resides in my "love forever pile". Quintessential Space Folk. Don't let the lo-fi bleeps and drones and shimmers and east-meets-west-meets-outer-galaxies multinstrumentalism deter you. I can't find anything at all that is this good. (help searching?)

Matt Melnicki, Friday, 30 July 2004 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link

nice, thank you

Takeshi Kitteno (admrl), Friday, 23 September 2011 23:58 (twelve years ago) link

wow that's great... only heard of like 15 of those bands!

kind of a sleeper rather than a LOL but think this would be a good ILM board descrip

347.239.9791 stench hotline (schlump), Saturday, 24 September 2011 00:04 (twelve years ago) link

this guy has the best taste in music & the best record collection ever

flopson, Saturday, 24 September 2011 00:10 (twelve years ago) link

o ya and the best record label

flopson, Saturday, 24 September 2011 00:16 (twelve years ago) link

he's a good cook too!

Stormy Davis, Saturday, 24 September 2011 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

Ha I've only heard a few of those as well. I've got that Radio Free Europe single but that's about it. Would like to hear that mix, is it live or can you download it?

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 24 September 2011 00:36 (twelve years ago) link

punk, sheesh. imo siltbreeze was a better label before the re-boot, when they released more abstract and psychedelic music. but srsly i have no room for complaint--put out records by pretty much all my fave bands of the nineties.

one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 24 September 2011 02:05 (twelve years ago) link

The kitchens floor album they're putting out next week is a corker

manatee is forever (electricsound), Saturday, 24 September 2011 03:19 (twelve years ago) link

oh, i'd be psyched to hear that. i liked their first record.

one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 24 September 2011 03:44 (twelve years ago) link

ian i think you would like this radio set, its not _that_ punk really

flopson, Saturday, 24 September 2011 08:40 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

I am enjoying the Circle Pit album way too much.

Also there's a new Mount Carmel?

Big Drug Dan (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 3 March 2012 07:06 (twelve years ago) link

Mount Carmel release is solid.

winnebago taco, Saturday, 3 March 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

Guy who runs this label is a dick.

But: Beyond The Implode 7" by a continent.

Lil' Kim Philby (Call the Cops), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

why do you say that?

flopson, Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

actually he's super cool and friendly

Stormy Davis, Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

Dunno a lot about him, but I used to enjoy reading his record reviews in Opprobrium zine.

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Sunday, 4 March 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

does he write siltblog? i've always wondered about that

flopson, Sunday, 4 March 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

Apparently so! Haven't actually seen that blog until now.

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Sunday, 4 March 2012 22:12 (twelve years ago) link

it's really good, really crazy writing style. think i've bought like everything recommended on it since i've started reading

flopson, Monday, 5 March 2012 22:22 (twelve years ago) link

I am enjoying the Circle Pit album way too much.

Bruise Constellation? Or is there something new?

dmr, Monday, 5 March 2012 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

must be the old one as the new CP will be on hardly art

some crap (electricsound), Monday, 5 March 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

==NEXT UP==

50 Skidillion Watts Best Of Lists.

heavymeddle, Monday, 5 March 2012 23:47 (twelve years ago) link

Bruise Constellation?

That's the one. I'm always behind with this label! Can't wait to hear the new CP.

Big Drug Dan (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 07:25 (twelve years ago) link

ten months pass...

rest in peace malcolm "mac" sutherland, tom's 2nd in command, and the heart and soul of 90's siltbreeze action. i saw him almost every day in the 90's and he always made me smile. he was funny and cranky and one of a kind. i worked right below siltbreeze HQ for years and i always liked getting a visit from mac or his roommate ellen. troo philly peeps!

scott seward, Saturday, 26 January 2013 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Tom Lax paying his annual visit to Briant Turner's show on WFMU, currently in progress until 3 PM EST:

http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/57032

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 20:17 (nine years ago) link

nine years pass...

a great volume of excellent releases have come out on this label in the last yr or so

https://siltbreeze.bandcamp.com/

Hinklepicker, Monday, 25 September 2023 20:16 (seven months ago) link

^ they're selling a reissue of the second mahogany brain record for $13 !

budo jeru, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 04:47 (seven months ago) link

holy shit @ the yuzo iwata record

budo jeru, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 04:57 (seven months ago) link

used to have all those axemen lps. good band

flopson, Thursday, 28 September 2023 03:26 (seven months ago) link


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