― kate (kate), Monday, 14 July 2003 11:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in Rotherham (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 14 July 2003 11:38 (twenty years ago) link
― kate (kate), Monday, 14 July 2003 11:43 (twenty years ago) link
"chew chew chew, yum" is one of my favourite bits of music criticism this year.
― Alex in Rotherham (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 14 July 2003 11:48 (twenty years ago) link
― kate (kate), Monday, 14 July 2003 11:48 (twenty years ago) link
If this is wrong I don't want to be right! However, you at least make it sound like Brad is finally playing to his strengths, ie computer manipulation, when it comes to Medicine, because all the early stuff is and remains el craptastic.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 July 2003 12:40 (twenty years ago) link
― gareth (gareth), Monday, 14 July 2003 12:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 14 July 2003 12:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 14 July 2003 13:38 (twenty years ago) link
― petrol, Tuesday, 15 July 2003 16:55 (twenty years ago) link
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=CASS70307151848&sql=A19klu3qaan4k
― Bronwyn, Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Bronwyn, Tuesday, 15 July 2003 23:01 (twenty years ago) link
i really wish that amg would allow you to click on the reviewer's name and bring up other reviews the person has written to give you context on where they're coming from. it's the kind of thing that computers do very well and shouldn't be too difficult.
― dan (dan), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 00:28 (twenty years ago) link
I think that's your answer there. At least the reviewer has the kindness to admit their bias. When he says it's got "no tunes" what he means is "no guitars". There are tunes aplenty. It's as pop as a Missy Elliot album.
This album makes sense to me because all that retrofetishistic guitar wank like the Warlocks and BRMC just sounds like shit to me. My head is at the sort of fusion of electronica and guitar psychedelia that bands like Capitol K and Manitoba are doing. If Medicine had made another guitar-ridden album like it's 1992, I'd have been sorely disappointed and written them off. Instead, they branched out in the direction that tracks like Heads and Brad's solo work were leading them. And are much more interesting for it.
― kate (kate), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:22 (twenty years ago) link
I want Machines Inna Garden. And I want it now. ::pouts::
― kate (kate), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 08:55 (twenty years ago) link
WHAT?!?!? That's the most straight-ahead RAWK song on the album.
Good For Me which switches very nicely between moody, trippy verses to a knockout Beach Boys on Mars chorus
Good For Me is the only song that sounds even vaguely electroclash to me, but mainly only cause of the Georgio Moroder bassline.
I think the reviewer just has the song titles mixed up, really. :-(
From the descriptions, I think he likes all the songs that I don't, and hates all the songs I think are strongest. Typical.
― kate (kate), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 09:07 (twenty years ago) link
But I don't. It's a smash.
It's so funky. This I did not expect. I got hung up on the Manitoba reference. It's way more soulful. Like the last Spiritualized album only not so fake sounding (this was the one beef I had with that thing, sounded put-on, the whole pseudo-gospel aspect). Missy's a cool comparison, cuz like Missy everything goes in the pot. I can dig it. Some unexpectedly key southern california hazy harmonies, too, a la Fleetwood Mac.
― scott m (mcd), Thursday, 17 July 2003 02:01 (twenty years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 17 July 2003 02:09 (twenty years ago) link
― kate (kate), Thursday, 17 July 2003 09:06 (twenty years ago) link
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 17 July 2003 22:48 (twenty years ago) link
ALAN VEGA " collision drive/ jukebox babe "BAD MANNERS " loony tunes "
It would be very kind to be informed somehow, as reply I got some rare stuff too.
Gleb from Saint-Petersburg, Russia.
― gleb demidoff, Monday, 19 January 2004 17:30 (twenty years ago) link
Ned, I don't get you at all here. The first two Medicine albums are incredible. Why do you like a ton of noise pop and shoegaze, yet dismiss Shot Forth Self Living without a second thought?
Nick, what did you think of the album(s) you picked up?
― ilxor, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 01:39 (fifteen years ago) link
The first two medicine albums are fucking great. MBV is the obvious comparison, but i think of Medicine as being sort of warm and inviting, while MBV is comparatively distant and icier. Different shoegaze for different moods, I suppose.
― Dog/Face/Chain (res), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 02:07 (fifteen years ago) link
"One More" transcends the genre just as much as anything MBV did IMO. Laner's controlled-noise approach was, at its best, second only to Shields' in the pantheon of 'gaze effects-pedal freaks and differed almost completely from Shields' "glide guitar" method. I like their first two records alot, but there is far too much filler on both (especially SFSL) for them to be considered classics. If you took the high points from both and condensed them into one record it would make the 'gaze all-time top 10 easily. Maybe even 5.
― Pillbox, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 05:39 (fifteen years ago) link
I like their first two records alot, but there is far too much filler on both (especially SFSL) for them to be considered classics. If you took the high points from both and condensed them into one record it would make the 'gaze all-time top 10 easily. Maybe even 5.
Definitely 5, in my opinion. I can't even think of other shoegaze bands that are even in the same league as MBV, Slowdive, and Medicine. Ride, Swervedriver, and Chapterhouse are middling at best IMHO.
― Dog/Face/Chain (res), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link
Is personal for Ned. Brad killed his father. ;-)
― post-apocalyptic time jazz (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link
SFSL is def in my top 5 but I never ever managed to get into that last 2003 album. For me it's a different band (which it is, I know I know)
― baaderonixx, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link
So what exactly is Ned's beef with this band? Honestly, I prefer the best songs of Medicine and Slowdive to the best songs of MBV any day of the week. I don't give a shit how that impacts my credibility. In fact, my favorite songs on "Loveless" are the ones that sound most like Slowdive ("When you Sleep" and "Sometimes").
― Dog/Face/Chain (res), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 05:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Didn't like it, long since sold on, never investigated further.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 07:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Dude, and you raved about the Manitoba record. And Maps. SHAME ON YOU.
― post-apocalyptic time jazz (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 09:10 (fifteen years ago) link
I did not rave about Maps; for two days I said it was good, and then I did a massive about-face and told everyone it was rubbish. And that Manitoba record is still fantastic! Plus he got better with the next two!
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 09:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Ned?
― ilxor, Friday, 24 October 2008 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Cool house!
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 25 February 2010 10:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Wow, I'm not really a fan of California moderism, but that house really does make me rethink that stance, it is gorgeously done.
(I think probably because I'm used to seeing only bad knockoffs, or else houses in that style that have been customised so much as to turn them into something else, something ugly.)
The subject of this thread remains one of my favourite albums of the 00s. I imported it onto my iPhone the other week and it still makes me happy every time I hear it. It combines so many different aspects of so many musical aesthetics I love that it's almost perfectly like it was made for my listening pleasure.
― There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 25 February 2010 10:59 (fourteen years ago) link
awesome! Jeez how I sometimes miss SoCal...
― saaberonixx (baaderonixx), Thursday, 25 February 2010 11:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Awesome, awesome, awesome.
― No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Between that and the shots of Wayne Coyne's place that surfaced after the remodel, clearly the new frontier for musicians is interior decorating.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 February 2010 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link
I somehow missed Wayne Coyne's crib. Can you point me in that direction?
― There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 25 February 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Go nuts:
http://gizmodo.com/5471139/the-flaming-lips-crib-is-even-more-psychedelic-than-their-music
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 February 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link
unhappy911truthers.tumblr.com
― I miss Edith Bowman's great music taste she played rock and indie (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 25 February 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't think I could live in either of those. But I suppose that's the problem with Statement Architecture. :-/
― There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 25 February 2010 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link
could never live in Coyne's but Laner's house seems very easy to live in!
― saaberonixx (baaderonixx), Thursday, 25 February 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm way too messy to ever live in a house like Laner's.
But then again, I suppose his studio probably was completely tidied up and everything packed away for the photo shoot.
― There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 25 February 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link
The subject of this thread remains one of my favourite albums of the 00s.
This is interesting. I love my other Medicine albums and Kate, I think we have a lot of overlapping tastes, but I consider this album to be one of the worse "final" albums out there by a band, kind of in the same league as Tarantula or something... I just can't get into it at ALL.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 25 February 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
I dunno, in retrospect, I might almost like it *more* than the other Medicine albums. I probably play it more often than the others. Though that could have more to do with my changing tastes in music than the quality of the other albums. I recognise that it is two different bands that made the first 3 Medicine albums, and then this one. It's just more like the final one is more where I'm at now, musically, than the others.
― There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 25 February 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
wowee zowee, who knew that shoegazing paid so well? did Brad Laner marry into money?...trust fund?...The story says his mom's name is Koenig...there must be some connection to the famed Case Study House architect Pierre Koenig...I am loving his digs!...wasn't there a rendering of such a house on one of his LP covers?
― henry s, Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Holy shit I love Medicine!
― Evan, Monday, 1 March 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
That's what Jason Pierce said...
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 1 March 2010 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh wait.
Brada Laner appears to have a solo record coming out, had a listen to one track and it sounds pretty great.
http://home-tapes.com/Hometapes/HAUS_HT031.html
― SoftDog (MaresNest), Friday, 5 November 2010 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm seeing them on Friday in Brooklyn! Bringing earplugs that's for sure.
― Evan, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link
I don't think any of the "major" music reviewers were given the OK to admit this album is better than a 6 or a 7. There's so many newer bands doing the same thing but worse and getting all the accolades. Medicine just never managed to clear the bar for some reason. The Buried Life is a lost classic.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link
But what do I know? I'm just a know-nothing low-level forumite.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link
i gave it four stars
― maura, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link
Clearly, Ned is the secret media puppet master.
― Brad Laner, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 16:34 (ten years ago) link
See you Friday.
― Evan, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link
The Buried Life is amazing, and it pisses me off that there's absolute crap out there in shoegazeland that gets more accolades than this.
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link
XXXXXXXP to ET - recording up on Dime, with apologies to Brad if you guys are taper unfriendly.
― many machines on ilx (MaresNest), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 20:22 (ten years ago) link
Not at all, wish I had a Dime account. Is that a live recording that got uploaded ? Your encryption worked too well.
― Brad Laner, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 22:56 (ten years ago) link
Ah, grabbing it now. Thanks !
― Brad Laner, Thursday, 22 August 2013 01:32 (ten years ago) link
It isn't my recording, but I'm really excited to hear it, what are the chances of a UK visit?
― many machines on ilx (MaresNest), Thursday, 22 August 2013 09:00 (ten years ago) link
So I feel like I want to tell people who like Tame Impala to check the new Medicine out. Not that they're terribly similar in songwriting, but the sweet pop songs plus heavily textured and processed sound put them in crosstown ballparks?
Also I really really really like the new album. That is all.
― bioethical technothriller (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 11:52 (ten years ago) link
They were so good live in Brooklyn a few weeks back.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 29 August 2013 04:27 (ten years ago) link
Oh! I was there, too!
― Evan, Thursday, 29 August 2013 11:57 (ten years ago) link
Laner's new solo record Nearest Suns is gorgeous in places
― I can't keep up, I can't keep up, I can't keep up (calstars), Saturday, 16 November 2013 13:05 (ten years ago) link
So apparently Medicine, Tropic of Cancer and Savage Republic (!) are playing together at the Church on York in L.A.
http://thechurchonyork.com/site/event/medicine-savage-republic-tropic-of-cancer/
― Assholes on Boats: A Billy Zane Retrospective (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 07:00 (ten years ago) link
It's true, thanks.
― Brad Laner, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 22:56 (ten years ago) link
New album announced, new single out! Like a month ago!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54Y8HfM6O5g
― "a bit of goatery, some demonry" (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 5 September 2014 11:44 (nine years ago) link
Ack! Usually I see news on Brad's Tumblr but I've somehow missed this one!
― Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Friday, 5 September 2014 11:58 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKaWJad7PR0
I guess it really is true?
― Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Monday, 15 September 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link
New album Home Everywhere is fantastic so far. The Quietus a few weeks ago called for a new psychedelia that held true to its spirit of being on the absolute edge of the outer limits and pushing out further (instead of constantly paying homage to aging hippe aesthetics). This album contains both impeti.
― livid in America (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 16 November 2014 08:02 (nine years ago) link
Shhh ! Ned might hear you.
― Brad Laner, Sunday, 16 November 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link
Lol Brad that post has some of the worst sentences I've written all year; my bad.
Album is great, though: "Turning" is nothing but big-drum fun and you guys have really learned how to take those jarring shifts from the last album and turn them into something sort of close to killer hooks in their own right (not that the melodies dont have tons of hooks on their own)
― livid in America (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 16 November 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link
Thanks for listening, glad you like it !
― Brad Laner, Sunday, 16 November 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link
God when I get paid I am going to buy ALL THE ALBUMS. I feel like I'm missing out on so much right now.
― Nicki Minaj - The Pink Floyd (Branwell with an N), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link
Cool video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK9iM5dilLY#t=60
Really enjoying Home Everwhere!
― Crackle Box, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 13:20 (nine years ago) link
Thanks ! Video was made by Vinyl Williams, also the drummer in the Morgan Delt live band FWIW.
― Brad Laner, Thursday, 18 December 2014 04:50 (nine years ago) link
love the new album. so good to have this band back.
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 18 December 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link
Thanks, really glad you like it !
― Brad Laner, Friday, 19 December 2014 02:36 (nine years ago) link