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Hope this is the beginning of the reissues
On that page you linked, they list 1 & 2 as a double package and Autobahn too, all on coloured vinyl.

willem (willem), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 05:33 (10 years ago) Permalink

They are all bootlegs.

harvey.w (harvey.w), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 12:51 (10 years ago) Permalink

Kraftwerk have been notorious for announcing stuff that *never* happens - earlier this year, they announced that the first three albums would finally get released on CD - no bonus tracks, but "re-mastered" - how can you re-master something that was mever (CD) mastered to begin with? Anyway, the first 3 are great - my favorite is "Kristallo" from "Ralf & Florian", sounds great when played LOUD.

SoHoLa (SoHoLa), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 12:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

you need "tone float" by kraftwerk / organisation - which is kinda like a pre kraftwerk hippy drum circle with wiggy violin, flute & hammond organ - at least as good as kwerk 1 & 2 which are their all time best apart from the original tour de france. get it get it get it - it's the best

bob snoom, Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...


Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 10:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

The boy Schnieder done good but he has to hang up his boots sometime

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

I've been disappointed by how accessible they've been over the past few years. Maybe this will restore a little mystery.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

But Florian was the weirdo mystery element in the group

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

And now he's not even in it! It's like SUPER MYSTERIOUS!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

This at the bottom of the BBC page...

Cones hotline
The lasting legacy of John Major's much ridiculed plan

snoball, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

what would Florian do?

Hopefully jam with Michael Rother and Jaki L., but probably not. :(

909090909 Rivethed Brikkchin Reverk now DANZ (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Every time I play the opening minute or two of "Europe Endless" I'm kinda convinced there's no better start to a song -- an album, ANYTHING -- out there. It's such a perfectly realized and precise arrangement, and *then* the beats arrive.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:32 (6 years ago) Permalink


Europa Endlos should be the anthem of the EU.

Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

Every time I play the opening minute or two of "Europe Endless" I'm kinda convinced there's no better start to a song -- an album, ANYTHING -- out there. It's such a perfectly realized and precise arrangement, and *then* the beats arrive.

For me, that moment is the keyboard interlude the third time or so it's repeated. For one, I just love the sound of the saw wave and the little modulation accents Ralf plays. But on that iteration, Ralf knocks it up a register — and it just takes off. Easily my favorite Kraftwerk moment, period.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 30 April 2009 19:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Folks have probably already seen this, but just in case:

Remasters of Autobahn, Radio-Activity, Trans Europe Express), The Man Machine, Computer World, Techno Pop, The Mix, and Tour De France. Available individually or as a box set, in which case they come in those horrible little "mini LP sleeve" packages people seem to like for some reason.

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 05:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

On October 5 Kraftwerk will release 12345678: The Catalogue, a CD box set collecting eight of their classic studio albums. Newly remastered versions of the albums will also be available individually on CD, vinyl and download.

The release is via Mute; it marks the 35th anniversary of the band's 1974 hit 'Autobahn' and will come mere weeks after they headline the 2009 edition of Bestival. Kraftwerk are arguably more important than The Beatles in terms of profound influence on the evolution of modern music,
.. etcetc...

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

- 8 x individual CDs presented in special slipcases featuring newly expanded artwork, including many previously unseen images all of which have been reproduced to the highest technical standards.

- CD Box Set containing 8 x CDs in ‘mini-vinyl’ card wallet packaging, plus individual large format booklets.

- 8 x individual heavyweight vinyl LPs with large format booklets.

- Digital downloads.

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

Any reason to buy these for those of us who own all the albums on CD already? Sounds like extra packaging but nothing in the way of new/unreleased music... not really into those types of reissues.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 13:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

Remastered sound?

StanM, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 13:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

Oh my god, I'm listening to the original '83 version of "Tour de France" right now and am FLIPPING OUT

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 18:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

for the first time

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 18:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

Remastered sound?

The remastering will be the selling point for me. The CDs that we've been listening to for the last twenty years leave a lot to be desired.

Vast Halo, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 19:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

will "Techno Pop" be mythical lost album or just "Electric Cafe" with original title?

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

wikipedia says it's just electric cafe with the original title

elan, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

ralf and florian is nice, summery, kind of hawaiian

-- this explains why i like that lp so much!

amateurist, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

Techno Pop was basically a failed album that had the best parts remixed into Electric Cafe. I doubt it will ever seen the light of day and I am not too upset about it. It would be neat to hear out of curiosity, but I doubt they have eight Tour de France style joints sitting in the can waiting to be heard.

That being said, I can only imagine what they have in their archives. I would love to hear the demos for songs that didn't make the cut for their studio albums. They will never be heard while Hutter is alive, but it will be interesting to see how his estate handles the music.

It will also be interesting to see who is credited on the box set. I wonder if Schneider will have his name removed like Bartos and Flur.

your original display name is still visible (Display Name), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

.. and Conny Plank...

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

1983 demo version of 'Techno Pop' is utterly different than album version, almost a 70's retrench with the Orchestron vocal choir playing the chord sequence, I like it better than the album version

& there were three new tunes on the 98 tour than remain unreleased, I can see why but I'd still love a studio version of the one that sounds like their take on Basic Channel

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

word! is that demo vers floating around somewhere reachable?
the live versions I've heard of the "Techno Pop" stuff is pretty great ... hard-hitting, muscular stuff

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

usual place, + demo version of 'techno pop' widely available on 'ultra rare trax volume 2' comp, most widely available bootleg of 97/98 tour is 'Computer Sinfonien ZKM'

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

correction, one word "Computersinfonien"

but "Tribal Gathering" and "Live at the Fillmore" boots pretty good too

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

ace, thanks!

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

"but "Tribal Gathering" and "Live at the Fillmore" boots pretty good too"

for a second i'm thinking i clicked on the live dead thread by mistake...

scott seward, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah I mean "Fillmore" is a better, more lush recording that captures more of the vibe of the night, but at "Tribal" Ralf was just so on

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

The only Kraftwerk recordings I have are 70's era, including the one with Rother + Dinger, and this one from Leverkusen with a 40 minute Autobahn

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

you know where leonardo is? I've been looking for Leverkusen forever, I'll put up 1975 Brighton if you post that one

to go back to "Tribal" it was like Ralf had all this energy that you could literally see rising out of his hands, and it wasn't the acid because I asked Mary and she saw the same tendrils

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

It's in flac or shn; what's the best way to send something of that size?

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

i quite liked the three late 90s demos esp. the Tribal '97 one. actually 'Tango' was a bit shit but they kept doing that live for a while unlike the other two.

unban dictionary (blueski), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

oh jeez, probably zipping the flac files would get them under sendspace-able 300 MB

I know this is bad form trading right out here on the street but seriously if they sold this shit legit we wouldn't be in the sorry state we are right now man

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

Oh it's fine, I got it all on dime/dc++ anyway. It's not like it's copyrighted or anything.

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

Relistening to this Autobahn for the first time in like 6 years. Sound quality's kind of shit, but performance is simply transcendent. If this isn't A++++ I don't know what is; the motorik breakdown alone is like 10 minutes. Will post soon.

The whole thing's 980 megs though; I think I'll just V0 this or something.

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

fine with mp3's

Kraftwerk POX

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

the other non-album Kraftwerk single I'm looking for, the pre-Conny Plank 7" version of “Kohoutek – Kometenmelodie” -

have heard side 1, still haven't heard side 2

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

ha ha until this very second, oh blogspot.

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 02:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

Techno Pop version of 'Sex Object'


Brakhage, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 05:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

ha ha until this very second, oh blogspot.

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Mark G, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 06:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

If you google kohoutek and kraftwerk it's one of the first results

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 12:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, found one. Quite recently, I did that, got nowt...

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 14:18 (6 years ago) Permalink usually has some good stuff.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 14:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

acoustic covers of Kraftwerk songs by 10 year old catalan kids is my new favourite genre of music, I think

soref, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 03:00 (2 months ago) Permalink

Oh no, oh no, you do not diss side 2 of Autobahn around me! Those are FIGHTIN' WORDS! Love songs about comets! Florian making electric bird noises with an electronic flute! The gother than goth, scarier than a Dr Who incidental music interlude midnight klang!

But yeah, I know. Calling something "dated" slides into precarious territory, because making that a complaint requires being familiar enough with the fashions of a particular period to know what's on-trend, ahead-of-trend and behind-trend. I've got caught on the wrong side of that argument before. I was born literally the month that Kraftwerk officially formed (or at least, the month that Organisation officially broke up) - the same month that the Beatles broke up, so what a time to be alive! (even if just squalling and shitting myself in a Brutalist New Town in Essex). Ha. I wasn't a fan through most of the period they were active - I was a child during their classic era and discovered ~pop music~ as an obsession during their long 80s hiatus. (I wish I knew what it was that tipped me over into obsession! But I never seem to know what it is that trips that switch in my brain.)

(The first Kraftwerk song I ever *loved* was Ruckzuck, because of Newton's Apple. Electric Cafe permeated into pop culture as an avatar of self parody and of course:

So it's partly an awareness of context... But also dependent on what particular context one is tuned into?

Like, I have a conceptual framework that I have already slotted Kraftwerk into; the "similar music" that I would Spotify Hipster Boyfriend someone for Kraftwerk would be, like: Can, NEU!, Cluster, Harmonia, La Düsseldorf. German music of the 70s. But, then, the Kraftwerk ~fandom~ on Tumblr, they seem to place them within a context of: New Order, Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark, Depeche Mode, Japan, Gary Numan. Which, to them, makes musical sense, but to me seems totally ahistorical, like, these are British bands of the 80s, whose success came 5 to 10 years after Kraftwerk! I see why they're doing it, but it makes no sense! And it's clear that there's another contextual framework within which to arrange Kraftwerk, which is, as you say, Rev, Afrika Bambaataa, Juan Atkins, Chicago House, Detroit Techno, but it's not a cultural context I'm as familiar with, so *I* can't instinctually assess whether it's 'ahistorical' or accurate, the way I can when I say "why are you placing a Duran Duran record from 1983 alongside a Kraftwerk record from 1974?"

But it's also something that twitches a kind of... it really depends on the context of who is making that comparison, and why? That it is different when it's A) an African-American DJ or producer saying "wow, we heard these crazy Germans with their grid-like music and it was so funky, so we made our own version inspired by that!" and B) when it's a white person trying to claim that Kraftwerk invented Techno because they can't conceive of African-Americans inventing an entire massive genre of music, and want to assign the credit to white Europeans in a kind of genre land-grab? Even as I'm aware that I have probably fallen into this kind of thinking? And that goes double when it's Wolfgang Flür saying it, which evinces a kind of "Fuck off, Flür" response. But I guess "Fuck off, Flür" is a response I have often, especially when he's unfavourably comparing Ralf Hütter's sex appeal to his own. So.

I need to stop typing now.

Dröhn Rock (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 07:49 (2 months ago) Permalink

Also I just find it kind of curious or nonsensical to call tracks "tossed-off experiments" or "failed experiments".

I mean, one of my favourite Kraftwerk interviews in 1977, they ask Ralf or Florian if their music was "experimental", and I'm not sure which of them replies, but their answer was: ALL MUSIC IS EXPERIMENTAL

So, y'know, Ralf or Florian OTM.

Dröhn Rock (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 08:30 (2 months ago) Permalink

I love the Radioactivity LP, yes it's experimental but everything fits so well together. There's this current of naive optimism running through their work (trains bringing Europe together, computers in our homes will beam us into the future etc.) that I find incredibly charming, on Radioactivity it feels almost romantic - "When airwaves swing/Distant voices sing". Reminds me of this Brautigan short story where he compares his love to electricity coming to a rural area in the 1930s.

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 10:43 (2 months ago) Permalink

I first heard them on the radio when I was about 9 and "Trans-Europe Express" was getting some airplay. Though of course they sounded extremely singular, if we're talking associations with other artists, oddly enough I think I connected them with Steely Dan at the time, because "FM (No Static at All)" was on the radio at the same moment and both records sounded clean, precise, and immaculate in an unprecedented way to my ears. Also there was a haunting quality to the both the chanty part of the TEE vocal and Steely Dan's refrain, "the girls don't seem to care..."

Because Kraftwerk was so alien sounding I don't think I ever thought of them as a real band who might be dividing parts among themselves or trading off licks... (although at 9 I didn't even really understand how conventional bands worked). However the tag "minimalist" that Branwell stresses is something I can relate to because it does describe how I've always heard Kraftwerk - nothing extraneous, no embellishments, very complete in itself.

I have almost certainly listened to Electric Cafe more than any of the others, and that's because I like the beats and whenever I put it on I feel my mind open up to new rhythmic possibilities. I guess it did sound vaguely three years retro when it came out in late '86 but as others have said, after time passes no one cares anymore. In fact I probably listened to EC the most in the early '90s when electro grooves were totally out of fashion. Branwell's critiques/explanations upthread are really interesting though and all of that makes me look at Kraftwerk's trajectory in a different way.

Josefa, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:43 (2 months ago) Permalink

To probably state the obvious there's almost always a winking ambivalence if not outright irony to Krafterk's supposed techno optimism. Especially on Radio-Activity where the use of radio for propaganda purposes is literally telegraphed by the cover, not to mention radioactivity in the air being not all that great. Airwaves and Ohm Sweet Ohm are beautiful songs though.

Noel Emits, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 16:38 (2 months ago) Permalink

They're funny guys.

Noel Emits, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 16:39 (2 months ago) Permalink

the "similar music" that I would Spotify Hipster Boyfriend someone for Kraftwerk would be, like: Can, NEU!, Cluster, Harmonia, La Düsseldorf. German music of the 70s. But, then, the Kraftwerk ~fandom~ on Tumblr, they seem to place them within a context of: New Order, Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark, Depeche Mode, Japan, Gary Numan. Which, to them, makes musical sense, but to me seems totally ahistorical,

agree that the former makes sense, the latter is bizarre

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 16:41 (2 months ago) Permalink

The former makes perfect sense, but the latter isn't bizarre at all. It really isn't that hard to draw a line from Kraftwerk to early Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark or early The Human League. Japan, Gary Numan and Ultravox were more part of the Roxy Music/Bowie circa Station To Station/Low lineage.

Turrican, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 17:05 (2 months ago) Permalink

it's the blind men describing the elephant

Josefa, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 17:15 (2 months ago) Permalink

early Human League def, yeah that makes sense Turrican

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 17:20 (2 months ago) Permalink

Well, the clue is in the fact that I said "Tumblr fandom". It's mostly young people, crate-digging (or whatever the MP3 and GIF equivalent is) an "80s aesthetic" and see that Kraftwerk fit what they think of as an "80s aesthetic" in suits and skinny ties, early computer graphics, neon, etc. Not realising that Kraftwerk fit that aesthetic because they *invented* it, while the other bands are their aesthetic children or at least nieces/nephews through the Eno/Low Bowie branch.

While - y'know, I'm in my 40s and that's the general age group of ILM - so I can *remember* New Order, OMD, Depeche Mode as bands and events I lived through. But Kraftwerk... I cannot remember a time before Kraftwerk. All of their albums were in place by the time I discovered music. So someone in their 40s, remembering the 80s is going to remember that Kraftwerk were a hallowed influence, but they were not "of the 80s". While a kid today would assign Kraftwerk to "80s aesthetic" because "70s aesthetic" means flares and stuff that looks and sounds nothing like Kraftwerk.

This thread kept making me thinking about the idea of living through a band / music in a personal context versus only experiencing a band in a historical context. (This doesn't have to be a function of just age, it could be cultural, dependent on the country you live in, your demographic, etc.) How does the difference between discovering a band through archeology, or experiencing it through personal memories affect how one approaches that music. Like, the difference between hearing albums as they came out, and living the "progression" in realtime versus getting a giant data dump of "this band's entire discography" all at once. But then I just started reading Retromania this morning and I'd rather stab myself in the eye with a spork than ever start that thread. So.

Dröhn Rock (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 17:22 (2 months ago) Permalink

I didn't want to come back to EC, but Josefa's post brought it back to mind again. But also thinking about Radio-Activity (sorry, I've been lazy with my hyphen, which is, technically part of the English title). Both of those albums having been singled out time and again in this thread as being "not as good as the others" for some people.

EC is all groove and no concept. Radio-Activity is all concept and very little groove. So, depending on what you're wanting out of Kraftwerk, one of those albums is more likely to be the one that doesn't satisfy you.

The lyrics or slogans (lots of Kraftwerk songs don't have lyrics, but they have a repeated slogan which helps you know what the song is about - be that "Spaaaaaace Laaaaaab" or "It's more fun to compute!") on EC are just ... unsatisfying. The songs aren't really about anything. A missed phone call. Sex Object is... I don't think we ever resolved on that thread what the hell Sex Object was about because we kept getting digressed into robot sex.

Radio-activity is just so rich conceptually in its symbolism and its metaphors and its silly puns. (Radioactivity isn't about atoms, it's about pop, on the radio. But Radio Stars, that's not about pop on the radio, that's about pulsars and quasars. Who wrote a song about pulsars and quasars and actual literal radio stars? Come here. I love you. Marry me. Just marry me because you are the absolute spacerock best.) But despite the jaunty melodies and the lovely bittersweet tunes, there are no bangers on it.

I know I've bitched about this before on another thread, but this is what I really dislike yet again about the new versions of old songs. They took all the ambivalence and ambiguity out of Radioactivity. That it was such a rich and ambivalent song and it could be about pop, it could be about nuclear power, but it was ambivalent about both. And they just ripped all of that beautiful ambiguity out, and NOPE, now it's about NUCLEAR POWER and that's BAD, kids. I hate what they've done to that song so much it hurts.

Dröhn Rock (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 17:36 (2 months ago) Permalink

Sometimes songs get relevance thrust upon them.

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 19:17 (2 months ago) Permalink

Again, I agree with Branwell about the way they perform the classic songs now, esp "Radioactivity". The "Stop-Radioactivity" context goes back to The Mix, so it's basically spent longer in that incarnation than in the original, form. I think it worked as a one-off remix but sort of has become the default. By the mid-2000s they added a preamble about "death and skin cancer" which is basically into Chumbawamba-stating-the-bleeding-obvious territory. Not cool.

everything, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 19:58 (2 months ago) Permalink

agreed, any sort of political or moral message in Kraftwerk seems off. but I do like the added thump that Radioactivity gets. I find the original a bit dull, honestly

frogbs, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 20:01 (2 months ago) Permalink

Business, numbers, money, people
Business, numbers, money, people
Computer world
Computer world

^ best lyric they ever wrote.

everything, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 20:14 (2 months ago) Permalink

Creepy intro to 'Radioactivity' is dope live. Heard a recording of one show they did in '98 where they (often) had 'Airwaves' in the setlist at the time and even that started off with a deeper much more menacing tone on the vocoder voice, pretty off with the rest of the track but very powerful and exciting. The live version of 'Numbers' back then was often a lot slower with more pitch-bending and other fx on the voices too. Always interesting to hear how the tracks have changed over time especially since they started doing the entire LP renditions in recent years. I'm still amazed they (hardly unreasonably) loved DJ Rolando's mix of 'Expo 2000' so much they adopted it for the TDF sets and still include it today.

nashwan, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 20:15 (2 months ago) Permalink

Business, numbers, money, people
Business, numbers, money, people
Computer world
Computer world

^ best lyric they ever wrote.

― everything, Wednesday, September 23, 2015 8:14 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The lyrics to that track are superior in German, I think.

Turrican, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 20:32 (2 months ago) Permalink

And if there's not a direct line from that to "Genetic Engineering" OMD, I say wo.

Mark G, Thursday, 24 September 2015 09:40 (2 months ago) Permalink

yeah, Computer World is one of the cases where the German being much more explicit provides a different context for the song which makes it way, way better.

I'm sure I've told this story before (if not on ILX then elsewhere) about Computer World was the first Kraftwerk album that anyone ever sat me down and made me listen to in full. In about 1989? And I HAAAAAAAAAAATED IT. I thought it was absolutely terrible, and the person who recommended it to me was mystified as to why I hadn't liked it because it seemed so completely something I'd like.

The truth being, that in 1989, I was working on a giant project to digitise and computerise fingerprint records for the criminal justice system. And realising that I hated that record, because I just felt like "this shit is MY JOB! That I HATE! I don't want to hear songs about it!" But now, I'm like... "wow, that record was so prescient in predicting in 1981, things that would be happening in 1989." and also "Yes! Here are songs about my life as a data analyst, Ralfie and Flori, you know how I feel, ILU ILU ILU!" because I'm a lot more reconciled to my profession than I was then.

Dröhn Rock (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 24 September 2015 09:49 (2 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, that's not so far off for me, except that it was more that other people were "lol this is your life isn't it? You computer people are all like THIS right?"

This was not true at the time, but hey! All you people that do internet/twitter/facebook - This is YOUR life now lol isn't it?

(Which isn't true either, but hey.)

Mark G, Thursday, 24 September 2015 10:17 (2 months ago) Permalink

3D show was amazing. The most genuine fun I've experienced at a show in a while.

welltris (crüt), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 05:19 (1 month ago) Permalink

so what kind of German accent *is* it that pronounces "für dich und mich" as "for dish und mish"?

Is that what they mean by their Düsseldorf accent making them sound as comical as Brummies?

Dröhn Rock (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 11:22 (1 month ago) Permalink

i thought it was a pretty great show -- one of the highlights was actually the extensive tour de france section, a record that's never really been in my regular rotation. my only complaint would be that i thought the sound was a bit quiet...but then, my ears are kinda scorched from playing too many shows. oh, and a totally ratchet group of ladies behind us who were shushed a couple times, then left halfway through. i don't think they knew why they were there. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

i feel pretty fortunate to have seen kraftwerk (2015), michael rother, and roedelius all live! i was thinking about that while walking out of the show, probably looked like this :)))))))))))

dronestreet, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 13:33 (1 month ago) Permalink

I saw them in Boston last weekend, they were terrific. Granted, I'm not sure they weren't just surfing Facebook or something, but it all looked and sounded great.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 6 October 2015 23:26 (1 month ago) Permalink

This one has sound (and Ralf being adorable but I didn't say that):

Dröhn Rock (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 06:37 (1 month ago) Permalink

at work but double hell yeah

bonobo voyage (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 09:17 (1 month ago) Permalink

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