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Hope this is the beginning of the reissues
On that page you linked, they list 1 & 2 as a double package and Autobahn too, all on coloured vinyl.

willem (willem), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 05:33 (8 years ago) Permalink

They are all bootlegs.

harvey.w (harvey.w), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 12:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

Kraftwerk have been notorious for announcing stuff that *never* happens - earlier this year, they announced that the first three albums would finally get released on CD - no bonus tracks, but "re-mastered" - how can you re-master something that was mever (CD) mastered to begin with? Anyway, the first 3 are great - my favorite is "Kristallo" from "Ralf & Florian", sounds great when played LOUD.

SoHoLa (SoHoLa), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 12:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

you need "tone float" by kraftwerk / organisation - which is kinda like a pre kraftwerk hippy drum circle with wiggy violin, flute & hammond organ - at least as good as kwerk 1 & 2 which are their all time best apart from the original tour de france. get it get it get it - it's the best

bob snoom, Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7813200.stm

:(

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 10:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

The boy Schnieder done good but he has to hang up his boots sometime

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

I've been disappointed by how accessible they've been over the past few years. Maybe this will restore a little mystery.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

But Florian was the weirdo mystery element in the group

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

And now he's not even in it! It's like SUPER MYSTERIOUS!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

This at the bottom of the BBC page...


Cones hotline
The lasting legacy of John Major's much ridiculed plan

snoball, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

what would Florian do?

Hopefully jam with Michael Rother and Jaki L., but probably not. :(

909090909 Rivethed Brikkchin Reverk now DANZ (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Every time I play the opening minute or two of "Europe Endless" I'm kinda convinced there's no better start to a song -- an album, ANYTHING -- out there. It's such a perfectly realized and precise arrangement, and *then* the beats arrive.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

co-sign!

Europa Endlos should be the anthem of the EU.

Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

Every time I play the opening minute or two of "Europe Endless" I'm kinda convinced there's no better start to a song -- an album, ANYTHING -- out there. It's such a perfectly realized and precise arrangement, and *then* the beats arrive.

For me, that moment is the keyboard interlude the third time or so it's repeated. For one, I just love the sound of the saw wave and the little modulation accents Ralf plays. But on that iteration, Ralf knocks it up a register — and it just takes off. Easily my favorite Kraftwerk moment, period.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 30 April 2009 19:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Folks have probably already seen this, but just in case:

http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3212&Itemid=26

Remasters of Autobahn, Radio-Activity, Trans Europe Express), The Man Machine, Computer World, Techno Pop, The Mix, and Tour De France. Available individually or as a box set, in which case they come in those horrible little "mini LP sleeve" packages people seem to like for some reason.

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 05:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

On October 5 Kraftwerk will release 12345678: The Catalogue, a CD box set collecting eight of their classic studio albums. Newly remastered versions of the albums will also be available individually on CD, vinyl and download.



The release is via Mute; it marks the 35th anniversary of the band's 1974 hit 'Autobahn' and will come mere weeks after they headline the 2009 edition of Bestival. Kraftwerk are arguably more important than The Beatles in terms of profound influence on the evolution of modern music,
.. etcetc...

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

- 8 x individual CDs presented in special slipcases featuring newly expanded artwork, including many previously unseen images all of which have been reproduced to the highest technical standards.

- CD Box Set containing 8 x CDs in ‘mini-vinyl’ card wallet packaging, plus individual large format booklets.

- 8 x individual heavyweight vinyl LPs with large format booklets.

- Digital downloads.

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

Any reason to buy these for those of us who own all the albums on CD already? Sounds like extra packaging but nothing in the way of new/unreleased music... not really into those types of reissues.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 13:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

Remastered sound?

StanM, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 13:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh my god, I'm listening to the original '83 version of "Tour de France" right now and am FLIPPING OUT

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 18:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

for the first time

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 18:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

Remastered sound?

The remastering will be the selling point for me. The CDs that we've been listening to for the last twenty years leave a lot to be desired.

Vast Halo, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 19:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

will "Techno Pop" be mythical lost album or just "Electric Cafe" with original title?

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

wikipedia says it's just electric cafe with the original title

elan, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

ralf and florian is nice, summery, kind of hawaiian

-- this explains why i like that lp so much!

amateurist, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

Techno Pop was basically a failed album that had the best parts remixed into Electric Cafe. I doubt it will ever seen the light of day and I am not too upset about it. It would be neat to hear out of curiosity, but I doubt they have eight Tour de France style joints sitting in the can waiting to be heard.

That being said, I can only imagine what they have in their archives. I would love to hear the demos for songs that didn't make the cut for their studio albums. They will never be heard while Hutter is alive, but it will be interesting to see how his estate handles the music.

It will also be interesting to see who is credited on the box set. I wonder if Schneider will have his name removed like Bartos and Flur.

your original display name is still visible (Display Name), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

.. and Conny Plank...

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

1983 demo version of 'Techno Pop' is utterly different than album version, almost a 70's retrench with the Orchestron vocal choir playing the chord sequence, I like it better than the album version

& there were three new tunes on the 98 tour than remain unreleased, I can see why but I'd still love a studio version of the one that sounds like their take on Basic Channel

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

word! is that demo vers floating around somewhere reachable?
the live versions I've heard of the "Techno Pop" stuff is pretty great ... hard-hitting, muscular stuff

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

usual place, + demo version of 'techno pop' widely available on 'ultra rare trax volume 2' comp, most widely available bootleg of 97/98 tour is 'Computer Sinfonien ZKM'

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

correction, one word "Computersinfonien"

but "Tribal Gathering" and "Live at the Fillmore" boots pretty good too

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

ace, thanks!

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

"but "Tribal Gathering" and "Live at the Fillmore" boots pretty good too"

for a second i'm thinking i clicked on the live dead thread by mistake...

scott seward, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah I mean "Fillmore" is a better, more lush recording that captures more of the vibe of the night, but at "Tribal" Ralf was just so on

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

The only Kraftwerk recordings I have are 70's era, including the one with Rother + Dinger, and this one from Leverkusen with a 40 minute Autobahn

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

you know where leonardo is? I've been looking for Leverkusen forever, I'll put up 1975 Brighton if you post that one

to go back to "Tribal" it was like Ralf had all this energy that you could literally see rising out of his hands, and it wasn't the acid because I asked Mary and she saw the same tendrils

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

It's in flac or shn; what's the best way to send something of that size?

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

i quite liked the three late 90s demos esp. the Tribal '97 one. actually 'Tango' was a bit shit but they kept doing that live for a while unlike the other two.

unban dictionary (blueski), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

oh jeez, probably zipping the flac files would get them under sendspace-able 300 MB

I know this is bad form trading right out here on the street but seriously if they sold this shit legit we wouldn't be in the sorry state we are right now man

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh it's fine, I got it all on dime/dc++ anyway. It's not like it's copyrighted or anything.

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

Relistening to this Autobahn for the first time in like 6 years. Sound quality's kind of shit, but performance is simply transcendent. If this isn't A++++ I don't know what is; the motorik breakdown alone is like 10 minutes. Will post soon.

The whole thing's 980 megs though; I think I'll just V0 this or something.

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

fine with mp3's

Kraftwerk POX
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jfeegk

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

the other non-album Kraftwerk single I'm looking for, the pre-Conny Plank 7" version of “Kohoutek – Kometenmelodie” - http://www.headheritage.com/unsung/thebookofseth/1743

have heard side 1, still haven't heard side 2

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

ha ha until this very second, oh blogspot.

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://www.sendspace.com/file/5rsc6e

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 02:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

Techno Pop version of 'Sex Object'

http://r*pidshare.com/files/266436158/kwtp.zip.html

Brakhage, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 05:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

ha ha until this very second, oh blogspot.

― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:58 (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

where?

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 06:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

If you google kohoutek and kraftwerk it's one of the first results

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 12:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, found one. Quite recently, I did that, got nowt...

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 14:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

chemicalbeats.blogspot.com usually has some good stuff.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 14:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

If the Chic/Moroder show

screeeeeeechbangcrash

ugh (lukas), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 23:04 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

and even if it's not anywhere near as good, it's the hollywood bowl, so it should be a fun time anyway.

the pursuit of ha'pennies (get bent), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 23:06 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

that is interesting, 'Heavy Metal Kids' was actually a working song title projected on the screen in this broadcast! I thought that was just a title someone had made up for the K4 boot. although it's pretty clear here it's the same piece they ended up calling 'Stratovarius' for the debut. on K4, with Rother replacing Hutter, the piece is just a sidelong glance on 'Iron Man' for a few seconds before flooring it

top notch, thank you WDR (c) 2014

- Von Himmel Hoch
- Ruckzuck
- Heavy Metal Kids (Stratovarius)
- Improvisation 1 (Tongebirge-esque + extra Dinger)

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 20:30 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

not all that interesting sonically though is it, you can tell why Hütter is in no hurry to reissue the early albums

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 21:23 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

mmm, "Ralf and Florian" deserves its place among the rest. I like the first two as well,but.

Mark G, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 21:51 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

personally, think it's strange they wouldn't just reissue all of them. I'm all for forging one's own identity, but trying to hide your early albums is futile these days, and it smacks of revisionism a la george lucas. Plus, I like all of those records! Come on guys, do it for me.

Dominique, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 22:14 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

>not all that interesting sonically though is it, you can tell why Hütter is in no hurry to reissue the early albums

definitely not for everyone. I'm a pretty big fan of even the lower fidelity boots of this band from 1970-1981, and I definitely respect the people who only find this band interesting from 1970-1973.

wouldn't be surprised if Hutter never puts the first three out, they just don't fit the 'perfect' narrative of the evolving concept albums. my issue is that the ~20 minutes of music that Schneider / Dinger / Rother recorded for Kraftwerk 2 with Conny, then shelved when Hutter returned, has been discovered / archived but can't get green lighted. that's just no fair.

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 22:22 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Wasn't there some rumor Ralf was up for finally doing something about it just because even he was sick of all the boots?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 27 March 2014 00:31 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

i'm surprised they haven't capitalized on it, they'd certainly make some money off them. but maybe that they haven't done that is respectable too. dunno. the boots of those three that are around sound fine to me so I'm not hankering for official releases.

akm, Thursday, 27 March 2014 03:50 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

that footage is so great, <3 frozen German teenagers

Charles, hatless (sic), Thursday, 27 March 2014 04:13 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

If nothing else, the official Kraftwerk YouTube channel has the three early albums represented in their entirety (as well as seemingly everything else in their discography)...

https://www.youtube.com/user/KraftwerktheOfficial

I'm a dais, I'm a dais (zero of the signified), Thursday, 27 March 2014 06:54 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

"Official" ?

Mark G, Thursday, 27 March 2014 06:57 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Ralf shd just burn everything

instant wrinkle filler (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 March 2014 07:36 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Ralf's hair is just epic in that video. Also, what a fantastic HD rip. So cool seeing these vintage videos getting archived at a nice resolution.

octobeard, Thursday, 27 March 2014 07:39 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

loooooool KraftwerktheOfficial

Charles, hatless (sic), Thursday, 27 March 2014 08:12 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

That clip is abso-fucking-lutely amazing!

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 March 2014 10:54 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

wtf is that thing Ralf is playing?!?!

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 March 2014 10:55 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

i'm going to the show tonight and uhh is this like a 3d glasses type thing?

chive on you crazy diamond (diamonddave85), Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:03 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's a 3D thing, saw it at Latitude last year and the sight of an entire crowd dancing with 3D glasses on is... odd to say the least.

Some of the visuals work better than others but Tour De France and Trans Europe Express were genuinely awesome.

Matt DC, Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:07 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

ahh cool

chive on you crazy diamond (diamonddave85), Thursday, 27 March 2014 15:23 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

that Rockpalast footage is indeed awesome...

always looking for an excuse to repost this one... Dinger/Rother/Schneider doing some kinda blueprint for 'Hallogallo', date on the clip is different but looks like it might be from the same tv appearance as the 'Kakteen, Wuste, Sonne' clip posted above a long time ago...

http://youtu.be/RqGrXf8zo0k

alb indys, Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:14 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

funny and lolexander (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 10 April 2014 03:58 (1 week ago) Permalink

THASS WHASSUP

smooth hymnal (m bison), Thursday, 10 April 2014 04:22 (1 week ago) Permalink

wtf is that thing Ralf is playing?!?!

It's a Tubon. The original keytar.

Vast Halo, Sunday, 13 April 2014 21:14 (4 days ago) Permalink

Wow.

Milton Parker, Sunday, 13 April 2014 22:08 (4 days ago) Permalink

What the hell video are they dancing in that room in??

funny and lolexander (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 14 April 2014 01:15 (3 days ago) Permalink

What the hell video are they dancing in that room in??

― funny and lolexander (Stevie D(eux))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkuUuBt7nrE

Moka, Monday, 14 April 2014 02:03 (3 days ago) Permalink


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