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Hope this is the beginning of the reissues
On that page you linked, they list 1 & 2 as a double package and Autobahn too, all on coloured vinyl.

willem (willem), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 05:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

They are all bootlegs.

harvey.w (harvey.w), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 12:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

Kraftwerk have been notorious for announcing stuff that *never* happens - earlier this year, they announced that the first three albums would finally get released on CD - no bonus tracks, but "re-mastered" - how can you re-master something that was mever (CD) mastered to begin with? Anyway, the first 3 are great - my favorite is "Kristallo" from "Ralf & Florian", sounds great when played LOUD.

SoHoLa (SoHoLa), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 12:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

you need "tone float" by kraftwerk / organisation - which is kinda like a pre kraftwerk hippy drum circle with wiggy violin, flute & hammond organ - at least as good as kwerk 1 & 2 which are their all time best apart from the original tour de france. get it get it get it - it's the best

bob snoom, Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7813200.stm

:(

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 10:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

The boy Schnieder done good but he has to hang up his boots sometime

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

I've been disappointed by how accessible they've been over the past few years. Maybe this will restore a little mystery.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

But Florian was the weirdo mystery element in the group

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

And now he's not even in it! It's like SUPER MYSTERIOUS!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

This at the bottom of the BBC page...


Cones hotline
The lasting legacy of John Major's much ridiculed plan

snoball, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

what would Florian do?

Hopefully jam with Michael Rother and Jaki L., but probably not. :(

909090909 Rivethed Brikkchin Reverk now DANZ (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Every time I play the opening minute or two of "Europe Endless" I'm kinda convinced there's no better start to a song -- an album, ANYTHING -- out there. It's such a perfectly realized and precise arrangement, and *then* the beats arrive.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

co-sign!

Europa Endlos should be the anthem of the EU.

Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

Every time I play the opening minute or two of "Europe Endless" I'm kinda convinced there's no better start to a song -- an album, ANYTHING -- out there. It's such a perfectly realized and precise arrangement, and *then* the beats arrive.

For me, that moment is the keyboard interlude the third time or so it's repeated. For one, I just love the sound of the saw wave and the little modulation accents Ralf plays. But on that iteration, Ralf knocks it up a register — and it just takes off. Easily my favorite Kraftwerk moment, period.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 30 April 2009 19:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Folks have probably already seen this, but just in case:

http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3212&Itemid=26

Remasters of Autobahn, Radio-Activity, Trans Europe Express), The Man Machine, Computer World, Techno Pop, The Mix, and Tour De France. Available individually or as a box set, in which case they come in those horrible little "mini LP sleeve" packages people seem to like for some reason.

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 05:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

On October 5 Kraftwerk will release 12345678: The Catalogue, a CD box set collecting eight of their classic studio albums. Newly remastered versions of the albums will also be available individually on CD, vinyl and download.



The release is via Mute; it marks the 35th anniversary of the band's 1974 hit 'Autobahn' and will come mere weeks after they headline the 2009 edition of Bestival. Kraftwerk are arguably more important than The Beatles in terms of profound influence on the evolution of modern music,
.. etcetc...

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

- 8 x individual CDs presented in special slipcases featuring newly expanded artwork, including many previously unseen images all of which have been reproduced to the highest technical standards.

- CD Box Set containing 8 x CDs in ‘mini-vinyl’ card wallet packaging, plus individual large format booklets.

- 8 x individual heavyweight vinyl LPs with large format booklets.

- Digital downloads.

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

Any reason to buy these for those of us who own all the albums on CD already? Sounds like extra packaging but nothing in the way of new/unreleased music... not really into those types of reissues.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 13:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

Remastered sound?

StanM, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 13:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh my god, I'm listening to the original '83 version of "Tour de France" right now and am FLIPPING OUT

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 18:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

for the first time

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 18:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

Remastered sound?

The remastering will be the selling point for me. The CDs that we've been listening to for the last twenty years leave a lot to be desired.

Vast Halo, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 19:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

will "Techno Pop" be mythical lost album or just "Electric Cafe" with original title?

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

wikipedia says it's just electric cafe with the original title

elan, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

ralf and florian is nice, summery, kind of hawaiian

-- this explains why i like that lp so much!

amateurist, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

Techno Pop was basically a failed album that had the best parts remixed into Electric Cafe. I doubt it will ever seen the light of day and I am not too upset about it. It would be neat to hear out of curiosity, but I doubt they have eight Tour de France style joints sitting in the can waiting to be heard.

That being said, I can only imagine what they have in their archives. I would love to hear the demos for songs that didn't make the cut for their studio albums. They will never be heard while Hutter is alive, but it will be interesting to see how his estate handles the music.

It will also be interesting to see who is credited on the box set. I wonder if Schneider will have his name removed like Bartos and Flur.

your original display name is still visible (Display Name), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

.. and Conny Plank...

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

1983 demo version of 'Techno Pop' is utterly different than album version, almost a 70's retrench with the Orchestron vocal choir playing the chord sequence, I like it better than the album version

& there were three new tunes on the 98 tour than remain unreleased, I can see why but I'd still love a studio version of the one that sounds like their take on Basic Channel

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

word! is that demo vers floating around somewhere reachable?
the live versions I've heard of the "Techno Pop" stuff is pretty great ... hard-hitting, muscular stuff

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

usual place, + demo version of 'techno pop' widely available on 'ultra rare trax volume 2' comp, most widely available bootleg of 97/98 tour is 'Computer Sinfonien ZKM'

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

correction, one word "Computersinfonien"

but "Tribal Gathering" and "Live at the Fillmore" boots pretty good too

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

ace, thanks!

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

"but "Tribal Gathering" and "Live at the Fillmore" boots pretty good too"

for a second i'm thinking i clicked on the live dead thread by mistake...

scott seward, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah I mean "Fillmore" is a better, more lush recording that captures more of the vibe of the night, but at "Tribal" Ralf was just so on

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

The only Kraftwerk recordings I have are 70's era, including the one with Rother + Dinger, and this one from Leverkusen with a 40 minute Autobahn

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

you know where leonardo is? I've been looking for Leverkusen forever, I'll put up 1975 Brighton if you post that one

to go back to "Tribal" it was like Ralf had all this energy that you could literally see rising out of his hands, and it wasn't the acid because I asked Mary and she saw the same tendrils

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

It's in flac or shn; what's the best way to send something of that size?

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

i quite liked the three late 90s demos esp. the Tribal '97 one. actually 'Tango' was a bit shit but they kept doing that live for a while unlike the other two.

unban dictionary (blueski), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

oh jeez, probably zipping the flac files would get them under sendspace-able 300 MB

I know this is bad form trading right out here on the street but seriously if they sold this shit legit we wouldn't be in the sorry state we are right now man

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh it's fine, I got it all on dime/dc++ anyway. It's not like it's copyrighted or anything.

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

Relistening to this Autobahn for the first time in like 6 years. Sound quality's kind of shit, but performance is simply transcendent. If this isn't A++++ I don't know what is; the motorik breakdown alone is like 10 minutes. Will post soon.

The whole thing's 980 megs though; I think I'll just V0 this or something.

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

fine with mp3's

Kraftwerk POX
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jfeegk

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

the other non-album Kraftwerk single I'm looking for, the pre-Conny Plank 7" version of “Kohoutek – Kometenmelodie” - http://www.headheritage.com/unsung/thebookofseth/1743

have heard side 1, still haven't heard side 2

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

ha ha until this very second, oh blogspot.

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://www.sendspace.com/file/5rsc6e

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 02:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

Techno Pop version of 'Sex Object'

http://r*pidshare.com/files/266436158/kwtp.zip.html

Brakhage, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 05:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

ha ha until this very second, oh blogspot.

― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:58 (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

where?

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 06:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

If you google kohoutek and kraftwerk it's one of the first results

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 12:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, found one. Quite recently, I did that, got nowt...

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 14:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

chemicalbeats.blogspot.com usually has some good stuff.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 14:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

wtf is that thing Ralf is playing?!?!

It's a Tubon. The original keytar.

Vast Halo, Sunday, 13 April 2014 21:14 (6 months ago) Permalink

Wow.

Milton Parker, Sunday, 13 April 2014 22:08 (6 months ago) Permalink

What the hell video are they dancing in that room in??

funny and lolexander (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 14 April 2014 01:15 (6 months ago) Permalink

What the hell video are they dancing in that room in??

― funny and lolexander (Stevie D(eux))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkuUuBt7nrE

Moka, Monday, 14 April 2014 02:03 (6 months ago) Permalink

"Die Geräte sind gebraucht und teilweise längere Zeit nicht benutzt. Aufgrund der Menge der Geräte kann deren Funktion nicht im einzelnen geprüft werden. Daher Verkauf ohne Gewährleistung."

"The devices are used and sometimes not used for a long time. Due to the amount of equipment whose function can not be examined in detail. Therefore, sales without warranty."

business nerves (doo dah), Thursday, 17 April 2014 12:50 (6 months ago) Permalink

'Ruckzuck' is all time for me!

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Thursday, 17 April 2014 13:07 (6 months ago) Permalink

A bit of a cliffhanger that

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 20:34 (5 months ago) Permalink

as if

Gritty Shakur (sic), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 00:25 (5 months ago) Permalink

early concert from winter 1970 in soest with the original formation (ralf, florian & klaus) from the rockpalast archive.
tracklist:
- stratovarius (improvised, elemental, more an intro than a track)
- ruckzuck (where the flute meets the motorik beat)
- heavy metal kids (where stockhausen meets prog)
- improvisation 1 (kraut rock jam)

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 1 May 2014 16:46 (5 months ago) Permalink

I wanna be excited for it but "it's coming" has been their answer since like 2009

frogbs, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:10 (5 months ago) Permalink

.. Like the first three albums' boxsets

Mark G, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:25 (5 months ago) Permalink

is that supposedly coming? i feel like they never talk about it or reference it at all

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:38 (5 months ago) Permalink

When the first box finally came out, Mojo talked to Ralf, and he cryptically alluded to the delay on the first lps getting reissued was due to the tapes being in less than optimal condition ("they are very dusty" he said).

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:42 (5 months ago) Permalink

ooooh. hmm. it just seems odd that they also never play anything from those albums either.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:46 (5 months ago) Permalink

but I suppose that not many of those songs would fit in very smoothly with their Autobahn-present material

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:47 (5 months ago) Permalink

was just listening to this, speaking of those missing albums - a very nice radio broadcast from 1974 - http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=1815

tylerw, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:50 (5 months ago) Permalink

it doesn't seem odd at all that they don't play that stuff - it's totally different than what they're known for. they don't really play gems like "Franz Schubert" or for that matter anything off the second side of Autobahn either.

frogbs, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:50 (5 months ago) Permalink

but am i totally making it up that they (well, Ralf at this point) seem to completely avoid ever talking about that era? I feel like that's been a standard talking point in most articles about them over the last several years

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:53 (5 months ago) Permalink

or for that matter anything off the second side of Autobahn either.

p sure they do at Autobahn shows

Gritty Shakur (sic), Friday, 2 May 2014 01:08 (5 months ago) Permalink

The "Ralf and Florian" album would fit in with their current shows, no problem.

Mark G, Friday, 2 May 2014 09:49 (5 months ago) Permalink

"Ralf"

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 2 May 2014 09:54 (5 months ago) Permalink

yeah.

Funnily enough, I managed to get a copy for very cheap off ebay last year as they'd not 'graded' it (turned out to be mint), and they'd listed it as "Ralph and Floria" (or something like that)

Mark G, Friday, 2 May 2014 10:06 (5 months ago) Permalink

back-up duck (doo dah), Friday, 2 May 2014 17:15 (5 months ago) Permalink

a very nice radio broadcast from 1974 - http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=1815

― tylerw, Thursday, May 1, 2014 8:50 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

had not heard this one -- thank you! great fidelity very mellow & a wonderful 'Kling Klang'.

but am i totally making it up that they (well, Ralf at this point) seem to completely avoid ever talking about that era?

might be uncomfortable for Ralf to talk about that stretch when he wasn't in the band, or how Florian, Michael, Klaus & Conny had gotten half way through recording a second KW album without him. I'm relieved those tapes have been found and transferred because it doesn't look as if we're going to be hearing them within any of the principals' lifetimes

Milton Parker, Monday, 5 May 2014 20:23 (5 months ago) Permalink

Are there any other really jammy Radio Bremen type shows where they do that crazy "Ruckzuck"?

funny and lolexander (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 5 May 2014 20:39 (5 months ago) Permalink

"Ralf and Florian" is the best. I could listen to that thing all day.

grandavis, Monday, 5 May 2014 20:48 (5 months ago) Permalink

xpost 'ruckzuck' was played in concert up till '75. the 74-75 versions are mellower 'Ralf and Florian' spins on it and there's a great one in the set tylerw just posted.

the Soest version just posted last month is on par with the Bremen one, and if you can handle the bongos, there's an Organization version in which Florian appears to be wearing a t-shirt consisting entirely of a picture of his own head - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eB-sl6ZLpo

Milton Parker, Monday, 5 May 2014 22:00 (5 months ago) Permalink


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