Kanye West - Dark Twisted Fantasy

"and the Twitter account, admittedly we do care about that quite a lot too"

not gonna lie, they were probably sniping at us, cause you know, everybody who writes for p4k secretly wants to be on ilm

maybe they already are ;)

oh my *checks self in mirror, brushes hair*

fennessey definitely has friends on ilm who help him keep tabs on when he's a punchline (hi, buddy!) but tbh i can't really imagine any of the Kanye Generation critic brigade who doesn't read the board regularly looking at this thread and sweating it.

someone's going to tell him he's a punchline today, right? I mean

Bearing witness to Kanye West's very public 2010 has featured many joys, none greater than watching everyone unspool his myriad updates, achievements, and indiscretions into piles of meaning.

So the album - which isn't worth trying to describe in a blurb declaring it the best of the year - is what everyone's obsessed about, but the greatest joy has been watching everyone else make "piles of meaning" out of all the shit Fennessey actually does list in detail?

well unspooling Kanye's Twitter updates really is the best hobby anyone can ask for.

Pitchfork announcing that the pinnacle of 2010 was following the obnoxious antics of a pop star seems like the definition of a shark-jump.

I think that blurb is a direct troll to other music critics. It's terrible as a summation of the album except for in the most oblique of manners (ie, the album is about the dissection of Kanye's public persona) but it's genius in how riled up everyone else who writes (or wants to be a writer) will get reading it.

^^^^ kinda what i meant by snide sniping

Dada Twisted Fantasy

if that was the goal, why not just post a dick pic?

because they wanted bitching, not swooning

you know something about fennessy that i don't?

I think that blurb is a direct troll to other music critics. It's terrible as a summation of the album except for in the most oblique of manners (ie, the album is about the dissection of Kanye's public persona) but it's genius in how riled up everyone else who writes (or wants to be a writer) will get reading it.

― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Friday, December 17, 2010 9:58 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark

what other critics, though? there are 2 reviews on Metacritic that aren't green (7/10 and up): Lex's and something called "Dot Music"

I think dayo is mostly right; he is trolling the people here.

too bad for him i have "only god can troll me" tattooed across my belly in old english script

GOON LIFE

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too bad for him i have "only god can troll me" tattooed across my belly in old english script

― in my world of Hmong ppl (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, December 17, 2010 10:04 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

in a world of horrible meme tattoos i think this is one i could actually get behind

GOON LIFE

― The Reverend, Friday, December 17, 2010 10:06 AM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that's on my knuckles

in fennessey's defense, there's like really nothing left to be said about this record at this point

like if he's really concerned about the overly self-aware internet world, I'd rather have him be oblique where we have to fill in our own blanks rather than condescending

ie, if we're talking about ILMers being the target audience, I assume anyone on this board can learn more about Kanye's record from Fennessey's anti-blurb than, say, the hyper entry-level school textbook-style "Suicide was a punk band from New York" things in the P4k 500 book

kudos to this blurb i say

yeah but even a lot of the REVIEWS (including Pitchfork's) go on and on about context before even talking about the songs on the record a little bit

it's like "we already told you about Power and Runaway...and there are like 9 other songs here! just imagine!'

if anything all the hype/"obnoxious antics/Twitter-feed/leaked tracks/silliness has made me profoundly disinterested in even bothering to listen to this album. which I have not yet done btw.

like I just don't find the narrative of pop-star-dissects-own-public-persona even remotely interesting. let me guess, fame is a terrible bitch goddess.

whiney, what would you assume an ILMer would learn about Kanye's record from this "anti-blurb"

like I just don't find the narrative of pop-star-dissects-own-public-persona even remotely interesting. let me guess, fame is a terrible bitch goddess.

Sort of but not really...? More like "I am a terrible dick, and that is why I'm famous and you aren't; ps suck all of my balls aw come back I didn't mean it"

"I am a terrible dick, and that is why I'm famous and you aren't"

weren't you the one saying there's absolutely no shades of celebration or bravado in "Runaway"?

"ps suck all of my balls aw come back I didn't mean it"

^ are you talking about kanye or my posting style

lol okay so slight variation - KANYE is a terrible bitch goddess. still not really interested.

xp

It's already been mentioned on the year-end list thread, but I think the Kanye mega-blurb on Cokemachineglow should be acknowledged here as well. http://www.cokemachineglow.com/feature/5816/top50albums-2010?pg=5

Near the end of his life Philip K. Dick started writing novels that mixed autobiography with science fiction with philosophical treatise as a way of showing what happens when a fiercely imaginative but broken and addiction-addled artist encounters what PKD called Hagia Sophia, “Holy Wisdom.” The artists reels and reels and then goes on creating within the language he’s fashioned for himself but using that language to translate for a new tongue. For PKD that meant some of the best and most profound novels of his career, novels like VALIS and The Transmigration of Timothy Archer. For Kanye it means MBDTF.

okay now that just makes me angry

"i read books"

beamer, betz or bentley

“All of the Lights,” real talk, and the stars are melting because MBDTF gives them place in a celestial choir.

reads like a diss to me

xxxps

maybe I just find breathless hyperbole irritating now that I'm an old man

weren't you the one saying there's absolutely no shades of celebration or bravado in "Runaway"?

What makes you think I was talking about "Runaway"? I was thinking about "Gorgeous".

The overall arc of the album is "I'm awesome, you hate me, go suck it" slowly transforming into "wait, come back, I'm lonely, forgive me"

i actually liked that the pfork blurb was short -- not sure there was enough distance b/w this album & the year end list for there to have been 500 more words or w/e written about it -- if it came out in april, maybe -- i mean sean wrote that whole voice review, not sure what else he has left to say about it at this point

i would've lol'd if they just said "Well, duh."

weren't you the one saying there's absolutely no shades of celebration or bravado in "Runaway"?

What makes you think I was talking about "Runaway"? I was thinking about "Gorgeous".

― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Friday, December 17, 2010 12:11 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

The overall arc of the album is "I'm awesome, you hate me, go suck it" slowly transforming into "wait, come back, I'm lonely, forgive me"

― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Friday, December 17, 2010 12:13 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i don't know, was i suppose to assume you meant specifically "Gorgeous" because you mentioned his balls?

So because I say that is the vibe of the album as a whole, that means that every single song has the exact same theme?

Like seriously, try thinking.

dude i'm just playing around, you don't have to turn everything into "SIR, YOU ARE DEFICIENT IN LOGIC."