2008 Primaries Thread 3: The Rejecting and Denouncening

About Last Night…
By Jeff Zeleny

RALEIGH, N.C. – Senator Barack Obama delivered a mocking critique of Wednesday night’s Democratic presidential debate, telling an audience here that the 90-minute session with Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton exemplified the problems with Washington by not focusing on issues that truly matter to the American people.
“They like stirring up controversy and they like playing gotcha games, getting us to attack each other. And I have to say Senator Clinton looked in her element,” Mr. Obama said. “She was taking every opportunity to get a dig in there. You know, that’s all right. That’s her right. That’s her right to kind of twist the knife a little bit.”
At a town meeting today in North Carolina, where he arrived to campaign in advance of the May 6 primary, Mr. Obama seemed intent on seeking to quell any political fallout from the debate in Philadelphia. Throughout much of the ABC News forum, Mr. Obama was on the defensive, tackling questions about his patriotism, understanding of small-town America and his association with the incendiary remarks of his former pastor.
“That was the roll-out of the Republican campaign against me in November. That is what they will do,” Mr. Obama said. “They will try to focus on all these issues that don’t have anything to do with how you pay your bills at the end of the month.”

With a wide smile, and a sarcastic tone, Mr. Obama sought to brush aside criticism about his performance in what he said was the 21st debate of the presidential nominating fight.
“I will tell you, it does not get much more fun than these debates. They are inspiring events,” Mr. Obama quipped. “Last night, I think we set a new record because it took us 45 minutes before we even started talking about a single issue that matters to the American people. It took us 45 minutes!”
“Forty-five minutes before we heard about health care. Forty-five minutes before we heard about Iraq,” he continued. “Forty-five — 45 — minutes before we heard about jobs. Forty-five minutes before we heard about gas prices.”
While many admirers of Mr. Obama have aggressively assailed the debate’s moderators, Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos, Mr. Obama did not mention them in his remarks today. Instead, he focused his ire on Mrs. Clinton.
“Look, I understand that because that’s the text book Washington game. That’s how our politics has been taught to be played,” Mr. Obama said. “That’s the lesson that she learned when the Republicans were doing that same thing to her back in the 1990s. So I understand it and when you’re running or the presidency than you’ve got to expect it.”
He told the audience that he intended to let the criticism roll off of him. As he spoke, he made a dramatic gesture of wiping off his sleeves and dusting off his dark suit.
“That’s what you got to do,” he said, drawing loud applause from the audience. “That’s what you’ve got to do. But understand this, that is also precisely why I’m running for president – to change that kind of politics.”
After Mr. Obama’s opening remarks, a woman in the audience asked how he intended to forcefully challenge Senator John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee.
“It’s a little hard to do with a fellow Democrat. I’m trying to show some restraint. I won’t have as much restraint with the Republicans,” Mr. Obama said, adding: “That’s the debate that I am really looking forward to. I am confident that that’s the debate the American people are going to want to have.”
“What they are going to figure out is who is the person who can lead this country and actually solve problems,” he added. “We’ve been going through this politics – tit for tat silliness – for decades now.”

haa animated gif plz xD

haha awesome

http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/dri100/i198/i19824oqb34.jpg

I've been busy for a few days - has this been discussed yet? do we care?

The comments on that article make me want to hit my head against a wall.

xpost not even going to read them

You're also right that I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch hunt because I think we've got too many problems we've got to solve.

Now I know he was responding very specifically to a question about whether or not he would prosecute Bush admin torture architects, but isn't one of the "many problems we've got to solve" the fact that we're torturing people in the first place? The fact that the administration has changed military procedures to allow torture? Have we seen a clear statement from either Dem candidate on reversing these moves?

wait til fox starts telling everybody over 40 years old that obama was giving props to a rapper and u know hes a bad man cause he uses profanity- just watch this LEWD VIDEO WITH GYRATING HIPS AND SHADY PEOPLE *fox plays clip of 'dirt of your shlder'*

"sen obama, how long have been a friend of jayz and does he love america?"

^ i would not be surprised in the least if this happened

Liberals- "WATER BOARDING- OH NOOOOOOOO!!!!" .. Chopping off people's heads, using gas, burning them alive, burning them with irons, hanging them from the ceiling, cutting off their hands... . . That's Ok- those poor Al Quaeda terrorists are just misunderstood- they probably had bad parents. . . "HATE AMERICA FIRST" What a a great group of Liberals..

liberals love beheadings!

I am concerned with the safety of my kid, period! So if you need to torture, go right ahead.
Posted by Hulk

ah, finally someone who doesnt side with the neo-cons

Wow I'm so SURPRISED that Obama is basically going to do nothing but prosecute a few underlings while the main ZIONISTS (read: neocons = super zionists) get away with FURTHER torture and further crimes. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/motherofallscandals.html http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hundreds.html http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_charges.html http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/anthrax_suspect.html http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/israelis_9-11.html http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring2.html AND THEN OF COURSE http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring.html http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/palestinians.html Wake UP the world!!!!!!!! Douglas Feith, all of his friends are Zion fanatics and we have all been lied to!!!!!!! http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/blackmail.html But don't you worry Obama, NO ONE will get away with a thing because we're bringing in the international cops.
Posted by AgnosticRegime

oh wait

morbs or nude spock?

wait does morbs know how to post links?

only to dennis perrins blog

I am concerned with the safety of my kid, period! So if you need to torture, go right ahead.
Posted by Hulk

I'm concerned that not enough people are actually talking to this point of view, which has certain puerile validity. The case must be made and made simply that disregard for the law and disregard for the opinions of civilized people worldwide actually help terrorists recruit. We have to be not only better than our enemies, we have to be different.

torture will make "your kid" less safe, its as simple as that

guessing dude who thinks us torturing ppl makes his kid safer is white + christian

"guessing"

http://i32.tinypic.com/307xoup.gif

A+++++

(especially dudes in the back)

Is the white guy at the back seven foot tall, or are they standing on an uneven surface?

yeah that guy is huge.

either that or the Arsenio Hall fist pump guy is like 4'8"

I shook hands with Hillary & Chelsea at work today.

plz tell me u said something dry and vaguely snide

"hows the campaign senator - i hope youve been getting enough sleep"

the Arsenio Hall fist pump guy

Nah, that's a yes he did point.

that gif is insane

Dammit, i can't get any sound from that video

here's the youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlR9DNfqGD4

(from a slightly different camera angle)

and here's a...well, a response:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdnljEV7MP4

Fuck yeah, now that's SWAGGER.

jackie and dunlap weigh in

Wow. Not often you get an Andie MacDowall joke in online commentary.

"Who the hell's he gonna get questions from...Colmes?!"

it's endearing the way he kind of doesn't do it right

If only he did that while wearing a cowboy hat.

Man's left-handed and brushed with the right. Also LOL Souljah Boy for Stephanopolous/prepostorous.

http://thepage.time.com/endorsement-statements-of-former-sens-nunn-boren-for-obama-2/

Nunn and Boren have accepted Senator Obama’s invitation to serve as advisers to his National Security Foreign Policy Team.

(bye, hillary)

are they supers?

more important than supers

theyre bloodthirsty pricks.

sounds like bye-my-voting-for-a-Dem for 1st time in 24 years

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jackie and dunlap weigh in

Did you abandon the Red State Reader after you realized these guys had you beat?

xpost

Bloodthirsty pricks, one of whom voted against the first Gulf War?

You must be kidding, right?