anticipate TRUE GRIT by the Coen brothers

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ya it's not like he's frothing at the mouth there, for a comments section argument that's pretty chill & articulate

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't disagree with him, but I did wonder why he acts like it's the first time he reads a comments section.

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i dunno dude, that shit can get to you, he's only human, etc etc

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link

haha there are only 4 comments on that article and one "abusive" one?

ok i take it back, chill out edelstein

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe he got foul emails as well.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I saw this last night and I loved it. I'm such a huge fan of the book, and it was great to see more of it on the screen this time. Bridges and Damon played off each other really well, and that little girl who played Mattie was great. Obviously I wasn't asking a lot of the movie, but honestly, I found this really really enjoyable.

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Wayne version is on TCM tonight.

My fave line from the Coens' film, which I assume is from Portis, might be "Keep your seat, trash!"

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

That was indeed a Portis line.

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

this is awesome

everyone's really good (barry pepper!), but the girl playing mattie kills it, such an awesome character - i could watch a zillion hours of hailee steinfeld being a pain in the ass to crusty old men

third act left me a little wanting but that's mostly the book onscreen so, y'know, what can you do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMf0MTweXYc (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link

those moments when Mattie shows that she really is just a 14 year old girl, and she gets that happy, sweet look on her face like when she wants to tell ghost stories...Steinfeld kills. And the haggling scene was perfect.

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 23 December 2010 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, totally! though i read the ghost story thing as calculating - trying to defuse the situation. the haggling was great. i loved her continually catching the male characters off-guard with her brassiness. the first scene with Brolin is fantastic. Brolin kinda surprised me actually.

btw im pretty sure JK Simmons had a cameo of sorts doing the voiceover of Lawyer Daggett.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMf0MTweXYc (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 23 December 2010 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I could watch those two kids get kicked off that porch stoop over and over and over.

benanas foster (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 December 2010 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link

lol yeah the porch scene was funny. And TamTam otm, Brolin was GREAT. Way more charismatic as Chaney than I expected...I expected sort of a dead, dumb mean delivery but he was great, especially in that river meeting.

And Barry Pepper (cast as Lucky Ned Pepper, lol!)...really brought the right shade of grey to Ned, where he's almost likeable with the way he runs things and deals with Mattie but you still know that he's a mean sonofabitch.

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 23 December 2010 03:27 (thirteen years ago) link

just saw the original on TCM!

mmmm... yung hummus (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 December 2010 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I just watched it too... I saw it when I was a kid but I'd forgotten a lot of it. I think Wayne might be a better Cogburn tbh, but the new one does everything else better, probably.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMf0MTweXYc (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 23 December 2010 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link

All I could think while watching that was how annoying Bernstein's score was.

pixel farmer, Thursday, 23 December 2010 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link

your score is annoying!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMf0MTweXYc (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 23 December 2010 04:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I could not believe that was Barry Pepper.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 December 2010 04:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I really didn't like Mattie in the original. She was just so damn bug-eyed all the time.

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 23 December 2010 04:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I loved how messed up Peppers face was too...and all the spit flying out of his mouth when the camera was pointing up at his face...so great

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 23 December 2010 04:30 (thirteen years ago) link

btw im pretty sure JK Simmons had a cameo of sorts doing the voiceover of Lawyer Daggett.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMf0MTweXYc (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, December 22, 2010 9:51 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah this was definitely simmons

max, Thursday, 23 December 2010 04:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not the biggest Coens fan you'll meet, but I have a really good feeling about this. Can't wait to see it.

Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 23 December 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

quality picture imo

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 25 December 2010 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link

i dont want to SPOILERZ this but i think the 'disney' stuff is a little much, i mean what's interesting is how it deals w/ the morality of revenge -- the chain of events that leads her to the place she ends up ---

oh fuck it, SPOILERRRRRRRRRRRRRRZ

losing her arm because she takes the kill shot isnt a v. 'disney' way to approach it (fwiw im assuming this was in the book) but i think the alcoholism, the hero's patheticness, the bumbling idiocy of the bad dudes, its very puncturing of myth & the whole mysticism of westerns, doesnt feel particularly DISNEY to me imo

lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Saturday, 25 December 2010 07:25 (thirteen years ago) link

by 'hero's patheticness' im talking about cogburn btw not protaganist

lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Saturday, 25 December 2010 07:25 (thirteen years ago) link

of COURSE it is plenty dark... but the snarky definition of 'Disney' overlooks the fact that Bambi and Old Yeller traumatized millions of children by introducing them to death.

SPOILERING more:

I'm pretty sure Kim Darby doesn't lose any limbs in the first film of TG, which is certainly a crucial omission; Mattie has to pay a price for wasting Tom Chaney.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 25 December 2010 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link

fuck

hey mods plz add "now with spoilers" to the thread title plz?

kanellos (gbx), Saturday, 25 December 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link

good, not great picture. brolin was funny. matt damon is always charming. couldn't decide about lead actress. score was really banal.

overall... is this the coen brothers' most conventional film?

by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 25 December 2010 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link

score didnt take me out of the film at all, cant imagine how it would unless you were expecting something jarring or yeah unconventional & yes this would probably be the most conventional film theyve done -- which imo is not a bad thing.

really unsure how u can be uncertain about the lead, she was great!

i do like pita inn tho so we will always have that

lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Saturday, 25 December 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Mattie has to pay a price for wasting Tom Chaney

bingo. she says as much in the opening voice-over.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 25 December 2010 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

the score wasn't good - didnt take me out of the movie and ordinarily i like carter burwell, but this kind of thing isn't his strength - u could tell at a couple points he was trying to echo elmer bernstein's 'stirring' score for the orig and it wasnt working imo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMf0MTweXYc (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 25 December 2010 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Burwell has been ruled ineligible for a scoring Oscar, too many preexisting hymns.

Hoberman took Coens to task for using "Leaning on the Everlasting Arm" and thus invoking its use in a better film -- The Night of the Hunter. I thought that was quite intentional, as Mattie's severe, inhuman faith reminds me of the rather annoying Lillian Gish in that film.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 25 December 2010 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link

its a film w similar themes so im sure it was intentional

lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Saturday, 25 December 2010 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link

'good not great' otm. lots of good laugh lines.

2nd tier coens still better than most stuff. relatively few overly coen moments/characters.

iatee, Sunday, 26 December 2010 00:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Agreed, No Country still had the Harrelson/Root moments, among others, to briefly hint at the fact it was a Coen bros film.

This was a very good genre exercise and had some great moments. I'd rewatch it sooner than a lot of films, and found the humor well-balanced.

mh, Sunday, 26 December 2010 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link

so i went to see this today and the projector broke so i did not see it, ffs

ice cr?m, Sunday, 26 December 2010 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link

also dim sum was an intolerably long wait

ice cr?m, Sunday, 26 December 2010 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link

No grit for old cr?m

mh, Sunday, 26 December 2010 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link

p sure btw the projector wasnt particularly broken just the guy who could sort whatever issue they were having wasnt there because it was christmas - they called him and he said restart it and it should work - i know this because the usher in detailing troubleshooting efforts described the projector as 'like a little computer'

ice cr?m, Sunday, 26 December 2010 04:07 (thirteen years ago) link

saw this w/ my mom and the night of the hunter thing is the 1st thing she mentioned afterward

johnny crunch, Sunday, 26 December 2010 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Aggressively OK-ish.

benanas foster (Eric H.), Sunday, 26 December 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Did not realize that was Iris DeMent over the end titles!

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 December 2010 02:56 (thirteen years ago) link

btw i totally dug this. "second-tier coens" is right but ill take it. bridges, damon and the girl all kill it, barry pepper too.

max, Monday, 27 December 2010 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Bridges takes the annual Winona Ryder Memorial Marble Mouth Award with ease

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 27 December 2010 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link

pepper was electric

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 27 December 2010 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link

i love the pepman

ೋ*¨*ೋALWAYz A F4RT3R ♥ 24/7/365ೋ*¨*ೋ (Princess TamTam), Monday, 27 December 2010 04:07 (thirteen years ago) link

When Pepper was five years old, his family set sail in a homemade ship, navigating through the South Pacific islands for five years.[1][2] His education was completed in both public schools and correspondence courses. Due to the lack of television as entertainment, the family used sketch acting as a means of fun.

max, Monday, 27 December 2010 04:19 (thirteen years ago) link

btw i totally dug this. "second-tier coens" is right but ill take it. bridges, damon and the girl all kill it, barry pepper too.

― max, Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

saw this tonight & this pretty much sums up my sentiments. I will add that Deakins also rules (as usual).

jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Monday, 27 December 2010 07:18 (thirteen years ago) link

yah max otm

lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Monday, 27 December 2010 08:39 (thirteen years ago) link


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