Worst Of These Mid-Late 90s UK Bands?

1st album was good. Never heard the 2nd that was Japan only. I'd like to hear it.
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Most ILM'ers tend to think that pop music is about groove and rhythm and "soul"

Even by Geir's woeful standards, this is shite

But that is true anyway. Most ILM'ers tend to think that pop music is about groove and rhythm and "soul", which is completely misguided. Good pop music is about really great choruses that you can sing along to, and a classic Beatlesque build-up to that chorus before it. And classic arrangements with lots of backup harmonies and stereo effects and flawless perfect playing. That is, not R&B but POP!

that is ONE KIND of pop. there are others. many others.

Actually I don't think there will be much of a market for Britpop retro, as Britpop was retro and that was the main reason for its existance. Britpop was all about the huge 90s need for new bands writing new songs in the old styles. Now the Britpop bands aren't new anymore, so for nostalgia we can go straight to the old sources (Beatles, Bowie, Who, Kinks, even Duran Duran) instead. Instead, Coldplay, Travis, Keane, The Feeling, Kooks and Kaiser Chiefs are among those bands who fill the need for new material by new bands in the old style.

the fact that shaking stevens is playing glstonbury is proof enough that retro-retro has an audience. people want to remember their youth, not periods in history that predate their existence.

http://www.swansea.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=6648

^^^I have to type up listings for shit like this all the time - pretty excited to think which 90s bands will be in their place when I'm doing this same fucking job in 30 years

Most ILM'ers tend to think that pop music is about groove and rhythm and "soul", which is completely misguided. Good pop music is about really great choruses that you can sing along to, and a classic Beatlesque build-up to that chorus before it.

R&B had hooks. And choruses. That you could sing along to. Dude.

Oh well, Geir's idea that there's roughly one or two acceptable types of pop music isn't exactly new I suppose...

The Sensational 60s Show - Fri 30th May (7.30pm)
Hosted by Steve Walls

Totally read this as Steven Wells.

How can you like The Seahorses a lot and hate Dodgy, who, until 1995, were basically the same band but not shit?

I just really like listening to and playing along with Squire's guitar on that album - he does some pretty standard classic rock moves really, really well and the tunes are good. The lyrics are dire, but I don't much care.

All I've heard of Dodgy has been wretched in a drippy, beany-hatted ordinary guys rockin out in the sunshine kinda way - I haven't paid any attention to whether it was pre or post 1995. Sorry I can't be more specific :)

Me too (xp).

Is there any palpable point to a Dreamers without Freddie?

R&B had hooks

Using past tense is correct here. 60s Motown certainly did.

Dodgy had one good song - In a Room.

what album was that off?

seahorses, didn't need to even think twice

what album was that off?

Free Peace Sweet

Where's the hate for the poor mans indie version of the wildhearts, 3 Colours Red? ILM raise your game!

Who the feck are they?

http://uk.youtube.com/results?search_query=3+colours+red&search_type=&aq=f

Alan McGee thought they were better than the sex pistols or something

alan mcgee thinks his bowel movements are the second coming of george gershwin

Dislike of 3CR's "This Is My Hollywood" tempered by mild enjoyment of "Copper Girl" (NB probably not heard since Lamacq left R1, certainly not going to bother watching the youtubes), lost in wondering if China Drum should've been on britrock poll, whether I'd still like Stony Sleep, and alarm at suddenly remembering My Vitriol.

ugh my vitriol. They were terrible.

A bit later on though, weren't they, around the time of JJ72, another stinker of a band. Early 00s: worse than mid 90s?

Christ on a bucket, JJ72 - did the world really need the Cranberries at 78 rpm?

They were really big for a short while weren't they. Looked they might do a Coldplay and conquer the world.

I remember reading somewhere about how JJ72 became bitter and twisted by the cynical music industry when their label wouldn't issue their second (or was it third?) album - so they split up in protest!

RESULT!

Steve Lamacq never recovered from the trauma.

How dare that label not have recognised their unimpeachable genius!

Although my love for them is large and enduring, I'm surprised not to see My Life Story on this poll.

Also, Rialto.

Rialto formed out of Kinky Machine, right? We should do a Worst Of These Early 90s UK Bands poll for them.

London ilxors please help - who were the shitty early 90's band that constantly plastered the tube network with their crappy stickers? Not Underneath What, the other one. I'm racking my brains here.

They'd have to be on that poll anyway, is what I'm saying.

25th of May?

No, it was The (something)s.

The Nubiles?

The Nubiles' 'Layabout' was Justine Frischman's single of 1994, FACT! (and possibly also mine)

Most sparsely attended gig I've ever been to = the Nubiles at Reading After Dark c1995. I (and seemingly everyone else) went to see the support band (some local dudes) and then promptly left after they finished.

I'm not sure they ever actually released anything. I keep thinking it was The Lollies, but...no. Anyway, carry on with excoriating 3CR, don't mind me.

The Divine Comedy should have been on this poll.

Not a UK band

Isn't he from Norn Iron?

Yes

So he is, from Derry. I always assumed he was from Eire.

Posh boy, not much of an accent

Also I imagine it'd be more accurate to say he's from Londonderry, if you know what I mean

Fuck a 3 Colours Red. That's like one color dude. I know I know, that's so three hours ago, but I had to post this:

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the first time i heard this was during their gig at leeds where they announced their first split ! ending the gig on this song was what made me wanna be a writer ! its epic

Isn't he from Norn Iron?

Yes, and the son of a Protestant vicar to answer Tom D's insinuation, but I always think of him as Éireann too, maybe for the Father Ted thing or maybe just because the press always called him "Irish". Meanwhile, didn't even blink at fellow NIers Therapy? and Ash on the Britrock poll.

Knowing bookish singer-songwriter: try to assemble Joycean lineage; noisy rock dudes: front cover of Kerrang! says WHOA NEW BRITROCKKKKK REVOLUTION (some participants may be not British)?

Dig a bit deeper into Northern Uproar's site and you discover they had a spot supporting on Mark Owen's tour. Ha!

I was on the guest list for the Glasgow show on that tour! Then I went to the pub with Northern Uproar. They were really annoying so I left and went home. The end.

SEAHORSES!

It was obvious then, and even more obvious now, that Squire had intentionally surrounded himself with a bunch of absolute no-hopers who would never, ever outshine him musically. NME were unusually spot-on when they said the only reason Squirehorses existed was so he could be Special Guest Guitarist in his own band, forever.

Dodgy had one good song - In a Room.

Great song, but their best single moment was "Staying Out For The Summer". Those fantastic backing vocals in the chorus: Classic all the way!

Reef were great. They get my vote. Place Your Hands on a pair of sharp scissors you floppy haired wankers. Almost as good as Toploader.

All of that list is cunt, bar 3 colours Red - for 'Copper Girl' only.

No wonder I was a Yankophile