2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

Relax Obama, vent acts have got your back.
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Whoa. The ladies at "The View" were pretty tough on McCain.

This shit has got to be coming to a head. Even considering the pedestrian ridiculousness of a presidential campaign, it seems inconceivable that the GOP ticket can just completely make up stuff day after day after day with impunity.

posted upthread Alfred

well the press is getting pretty sick of it (Joe Klein of all people is foaming at the mouth about the kindergarten ad, daily calling McCain a liar)

but how that manifests itself in daily coverage -- what it would look like if the press completely turns against McCain and whether it would matter .... I'm not sure

xpost

like, if / when another lipstick on a pig comes along, some "controversy" that McCain and Drudge are pushing hard, will the media be able to get off that crack pipe? doubtful

Meanwhile, searching for a "Drunks for Obama" site/sign, I found this:

O'Reilly has drunk the Obama kool-aid

Posted on Fri Aug 29 2008 17:08:11 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) by Joiseydude

Discussing Palin, first thing out of his mouth is that she is under investigation, The next is she has "Scant" experience. He went on to say that Obama convinced him last night that he (Obama) is OK...

I, sadly, admit the media's gonna play a key role here insofar as McCain Palin are basically lying blatantly on a daily basis and that kind of thing can't be countered without their complicity.

(er, terrible sentence structure, I mean it can't be countered without the media's help_

on the other hand McCain used to get his message in the lede of a story and only get called out in some 10th graf he said-she said

now a lot of coverage is starting to look like this:

By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer
52 minutes ago
NEW YORK - Republican presidential candidate John McCain on Friday defended two debunked television ads attacking Democrat Barack Obama and claimed erroneously that running mate Sarah Palin never sought money for lawmakers' pet projects as Alaska governor.

so maybe the lying liars frame will get some traction, who knows

xpost but same thing Shakey's talking about

headline of that story is "McCain fumbles Palin's record on earmark requests "

God, McCain is going to be such an awful President

that's the spirit!

i think palin will be a worse president when mccain dies

more Independents like this plz

well, with fewer "sugar tits" refs if you don't mind

yeah he goes a little overboard there

more independents who editorials read like left-leaning Dennis Miller routines?

yeah, classism like that is a real winner

upping the poltical discourse with the words Fucking Moron in the headline. nice.

what the hell, though, intelligent adult discourse doesn't seem to be working, might as well do what we do every four years and throw everything at the wall to see if any of it sticks

SARAH PALIN FUCKS PENGUINS

perhaps I should clarify that what I meant was "more independents who are not into Palin" and not necessarily "more independents who rant, sometimes using inappropriate rhetoric"

i have never heard of this brilliant website before.

the AP's apparent flip is some serious stuff, considering where they've been and who runs shit over there.

also come on lolz @ VAN PALIN! I had not heard that before.

Love this, the latest from the Obama camp:

"Today on "The View," John McCain defended his campaign's latest ad campaign, which has been debunked repeatedly as both false and sleazy. In running the sleaziest campaign since South Carolina in 2000 and standing by completely debunked lies on national television, it's clear that John McCain would rather lose his integrity than lose an election."

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/obama_campaign_mccain_would_ra.php

In running the sleaziest campaign since South Carolina in 2000

oh snaps

would rather lose his integrity than lose an election

this is also a choice line - expect it will get repeated ad nauseam soon enough

McCain was also pushed on his stance on abortion, saying he thought Roe v. Wade was a bad decision. Saying he'd nominate justices who strictly interpret the constitution, Whoopi asked if that meant she'd be returned to slavery:

i think the main reason im not as worried as i could be is that the narrative that is clearly taking place here is similar to the one that apprehended HRC's campaign - she was "calculating," and more than sexism i think this was the one that did her in, she was a 'below the belt'-kind of politician. basically the same thing we repeat ad nauseum here. and mccain's falling into the same trap ... 'sleazy politics'

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Olbermann_special_comment_Republicans_hijacked_911_0911.html (includes 9/11 picture)

This is the way you pick a fight with McCain. Hammer him on integrity and honor, and wait for him to hit back too hard. He will overreact.

^^^^ so OTM

wait, palin doesn't believe in the separation of church and state?!

mccain's pushing narrative on a basic level, "CHECK OUT THESE NEGATIVE ASSOCIATIONS," while Obama pushes it on a meta level ... its almost civil rights movementesque in its conceptualization - get pummelled on TV by attacks and the narrative builds on its own without you having to do much other than saying you want something different.

btw guys the palin in a bikini with machine gun by the pool pic that originated on ILX was mentioned in USA today the other day

next thing you know, they will be posting Dennis Prager columns

that originated on ILX

What?

just like hen fap

it's doctor casino's friend

's body

That's funny. I mean, that thing is all over the Internet. I think there's even a Snopes page for it.

yeah there's a snopes page for it - had no idea it was ILX-originated! Awesome!

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/palin.asp

hope dr. c doesn't mind me posting this up here

http://www.flickr.com/photos/doctorcasino/208036176/

lose his integrity than lose an election"

sweet. more like this, plz

really that pic was on ilx first??!? hahahaha i've seen that like everywhere, i had no idea

Crutis77 needs to get in on that.

Having done some research, "ILX-originated" is stretching it, kinda. The original photo was taken by ILXor Doctor Casino (of a friend of his), but the Photoshopping was done by the Flickr user "Innocuous Fun" and the Photoshopped photo was posted on Flickr, at which point it took on a life of its own.

Cf: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30056776@N07/2831221125/