Kanye West - Dark Twisted Fantasy

okay Kanye sampling "Rachel" would be kind of amazing

Has anyone gone hard on Runaway? I find myself liking the beat more and more but Kanye is p lame on top it. If it was 8 minutes of Pusha it would be A+++

i like it
it's a good sing-along song

Kanye is completely inconsequential on "Runaway"; that song is all hook and really all the better for it.

the part where he's belting out incompetently/incoherently "RUNAWAY FROM ME BEH BEH DRNENENEN CRAZY" is like the nadir of the album for me.

yr nutz!

you're into the vaguely melodic mumbling?

best part of the track imo.

but then it may be my fave track of the year.

you're into the vaguely melodic mumbling?

― some dude, Friday, December 10, 2010 1:38 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wtf, isn't like sonic youth your favorite band?

really would love to hear some youtube fiend put the first verse of "Runaway" after the first chorus in Natalie Imbruglia's "Torn."

there's a huge difference between rock singers working within their limitations and a rapper trying to belt out a big R&B hook and collapsing into a puddle of consonants

that's a load of horseshit, Al.

would it have ruined the magic of the moment if Kanye went for a 2nd take and clearly enunciated every word?

the best part about kanye's singing is that it's out of his limitations

It's symbolic of Kanye's dick-on-his-sleeve emotional bravery

it would be like complaining that Thurston Moore can't hit all the same notes as Loverboy.

I will take Kanye shouting at the top of his lungs over the vaguely croony horseshit he does on "Dark Fantasy" every single fucking time

i dunno. but let's ask Mick Jagger why he couldn't be bothered to enunciate properly first, shall we?

xps

if only there was some sort of hint on the record that Kanye understood the value of indie-rock imperfections

it would be like complaining that Thurston Moore can't hit all the same notes as Loverboy.

pretty sure people would do this if SY made an album that tried to sound like loverboy

almost every note of Bon Iver singing on this album has Charlie Wilson higher in the mix. i'd probably be fine with CW singing the bridge of "Runaway," he can pull of what it sounds like Kanye's attempting.

i don't think kanye is trying to make an r kelly record croups

of shipley's criticisms of "runaway", the "how does it make you a jerk off to never take work of?" line rings a bit more true

that mumbly bridge is alright, but who amongst us is gonna defend the extended version of "runaway"

o/

yeesh

yeezy reupholstered my pussy rant > kanye mumbling into a vocoder for 4 mins

i don't think kanye is trying to make an r kelly record croups

no, but he's trying for a big emotional vocal climax beyond his reach, if Thurston Moore ever went for a "I want to spread my wings and FLYYYYY" Mike Reno moment, by god link plz that sounds hilarious.

yeah i mean...it's OK if you guys like "nijhehuCRAZYernernerner runaway as fast as you can" and I don't, turning it into "omg you like some bands that don't have great singers" is pretty pointless, probably all of us like lots of music by 'good' and 'bad' singers.

I thought the "jerk-offs that never take work off" thing was more about him being a horrible boyfriend or companion because he can't/won't leave the studio, he won't take time off to be with his girl and she gets fed up with him.

dude's obvious too busy getting that vocal just right

ts: lou reed vs. jon anderson!

xp

word.

I think the point is more "Why does this approach irritate you here more than it does in other contexts?" The complaint feels like half the story.

the fact that ye can't this the notes it makes it more human, period. i love it when Yeezy sings out of tune. it's like my favorite shit on the record ("and then they make noyoyoyoyoyoyooooooze"). Its like a Rough Trade aesthetic on a Def Jam budget and if you can't fuck with that, I don't know what

what is "this approach"? bad singing in general? trying to sing out of one's range? i mean that's pretty vague. (xpost)

singing out of one's range and consciously leaving that on the album

a better comparison would be if someone loved Daniel Johnston's pipes while bitching about kanye

punk-ye - live with it!

basically i can never criticize anyone's singing ever unless i listen to nothing but Mariah type ish? you should know better than anyone that's a stupid wall to put up, DJP.

some dude, it's something for like Television Personalities, not actual television personalities

neil young to thread.

a man needs to send his maid photos of his dick

i don't mind the sing-song early choruses like "Spaceship" or "Hey Mama," obviously Kanye is going to sing no matter what and it's more about feeling than perfection, i just specifically hate the kind of flailing hollering he's doing on that part of "Runaway".

http://content.internetvideoarchive.com/content/photos/244/010281_13.jpg

"Let's HAVE a to-ooh-whoa-oh-oost to the doucheBAGS!"

i feel like that post wouldn't make any more sense even if i had ever heard the Television Personalities

the question for me is: does ye effectively inhabit his chosen persona (whatever that may be)? yep he does. fuck a perfectionism.

Its like a Rough Trade aesthetic on a Def Jam budget

my god this is a charitable position to take

he does sound like a douchebag, so it's very method in that regard

ie, his vocals are as fucked up as his lyrics as his persona as his production etc.