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Father Abraham, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 23:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

Marissa, stop brainwashing us!

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 23:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

her mind is powerfuller than a man's. she must have mercy on us.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 23:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

marissa, have you ever noticed how MTV doesnt even play music anymore? I mean its supposed to be MUSIC televison. The fuckin man isn't selling music hes selling images, youre so right. and reality TV is so sucky! Oh yeah the President sucks too. No one knows it either!

jmeister (jmeister), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 23:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

people who are constantly focused on the media personalities and comparing me with media personalities are people I avoid.

please feel free to start avoiding us at any time then

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 23:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

Marissa, what non-major label musicians have you been listening to lately?

Dare (Dare), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 23:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

you will be shot (you will be shot), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 23:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

when I was a kid I was a little bored of the media..I bought a record , it was from france...the band was Kornog.
they are obscure..on green linnet records.
I like breton music because of the greek bouzouki which is absolutely hauntingly gorgeous and the music is very dark at times..irish music doesn't do that much for me, but America sells it ...
they decide to sell it..
I also like or love an instrument called,
chinese GU ZHENG, THAT andreas vollenweider uses sometimes.
this instrument is also very exotic and gorgeous and sensuous. then I love FLAMENCO....these virtuosos are some of the most under-rated right now.
they are the most passionate ...but i like the people who play flamenco who are less commerical and not as slick..
it depends...
I love listening to obscure world music, bulgaria...and it really does something for me to listen to this music.
I have an encyclopedia of music in my house and anyone can go to the library or go on line to explore world music ....
it is very interesting...alot more interesting then listening to clone music ...with the same instruments over and over..I like to listen to alot of different instruments...
there is much obscure music..I sometimes look for medieval music on the net...
I listen to commerical people, mostly classical rock..but after awhile I need to look elsewhere, I can't keep listening to these people they shove down my throat...
music was not meant to be a product..but something that was done to bring people together in a warm sort of way....
not just to cash in...

marissa marchant, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 23:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

That was nice. Don't you think you'd do a lot more to help the situation of independent music by talking about it and why you enjoy it, rather than constantly berating the corporations? After all, you're still talking about them, and even bad press is free hype.

Dare (Dare), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 23:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

Are you guys really having fun with this? This kind of beatdown shit is really boring to me.

deej.., Wednesday, 3 August 2005 00:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

rock andrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrol

latebloomer: i hate myself and want to fly (latebloomer), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 00:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

I was being honest. I'm sort of sympathetic to the original intent of ILM being a place where people can talk politely and positively about things.

Dare (Dare), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 00:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

sorry, i just can't stop myself...

clone music: www.clone.nl

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 00:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

xpost - yes, but i'm unsympathetic to this character. for one, the contradictions abound, dontcha think? WHY ELSE would there be so much negative web action going on? the masses may be stupid, but look how smart they are. this really is a good example of the average person being able to sniff out a dud.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 01:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

ILX is generally the biggest bunch of assholes I've had the displeasure of finding in one place. What's this about being unsympathetic?

Um..., Wednesday, 3 August 2005 01:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

I apologize for using strong language on here. I am just getting a little sick of the attitude..
I am not on the net to be mocked.
I am not in competition with commercial people.
That is why I want to change my stage name. and I have been many stages in my lifetime.
This country is going down the tubes.
the media is into control. I just want to make a living. I am not looking for big bucks and I am not looking to dominate.
that is why I want to go under a different name and just post on obscure sites in different countries.
I had more pictures. right now < I am moving , I can't find my photos in the boxes...I had photos..then I took them down...does it really matter to people what I look like. Men don't give me attention no matter what I do...
and everyone thinks Jessica Simpson is hot, and Courtney love is a better musician and Sarah Mc.laclahn. Alot of people think that anyone who is not famous must be inferior..so why fight against this...why don't you people just listen to famous people and forget about me..I am happy just doing my music for people who don't talk about the media. believe it or not, there are some people who are not into the media..and I want to find them and get a new name..and forget about the media, the commerical world and all this phony trash...I don't want to ever mention their names again.

marissa marchant, Wednesday, 3 August 2005 01:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

You're hot too, Marissa. :-)

Elwyn Chow (I say we take off and nuke the), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 01:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

Marissa, what exactly will changing your name do? You will alienate many of your current fans, and anyone who *wants* to hate you (for whatever weird reason) will have no problem figuring out your new identity. Say what you want about the lack of kindness of the online community, but Internet users are a savvy bunch, and very little skips past the collective consciousness.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 01:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

You should change your name to Mari March.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 01:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

Also, "just posting on obscure sites in foreign countries" is not a very good way to "just make a living."

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 01:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

someone made an important comment.
or an intelligent comment.
I think I have become very angry not just at corporations, but at the majority of people who just have adopted this apathetic attitude about musicians and artists.
the corporations have created a culture, and this culture is very hostile, berating and abusive not to mention disrespectful to artists.
If they create a culture that learns to disrespect artists..then that is something to be angry at.
but you can't just express angry toward these power hungry thugs.
They want docile, limp, quiet people who walk on eggshells. they like to intimidate people to shut up, so they can dominate...]
well, I might decide to change my name in a couple months to start over, not talk about commerical people and not go on commerical loving boards. I have been speaking mostly about obscure music..occasionally I will make a comment about a commerical person...that always show up under the google...the obscure people don't..but this is a learning experience. I made some mistakes ...
I posted my links in places that were not good for me...
that is my mistake...live and learn...
but 39000 people in one month were abusing and hassassing me in december 2003 because I spoke out against our culture. wow, that says something...it says people don't like people to speak out, and to think differently.
that means if I am not a clone and I think different thoughts then what the media tells me, that most people think there is something wrong with me.
that is sad.
I am not into dictatorship and censorship.
It bothers me that dictators are censoring our ability to make choices, by eliminating choices.
I just want to remain very low key actually....
and if people don't start doing something to counteract the defamacation. spelling>? then I will take down my site and start over...

marissa marchant, Wednesday, 3 August 2005 01:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

Are you guys really having fun with this? This kind of beatdown shit is really boring to me.
-- deej.. (el...), August 3rd, 2005.

deej, with all due respect as a friend and a peer, I find your posts here to be the most offenisve as I *know* you're not a created character...you're a real live person.

Read the thread instead of coming in here and assuming EVEREYONE is beating this "person" down...and more imporatantly, read her, uh, "responses", and what she's, uh, "responding" too.

I think Marissa Marchant is a character, not a person.

I've said time and time again I am a fan of this character.

She has yet to acknowledge that (because that's part of the character), and you've yet ackowledged those in here who have praised and/or supported her. What's worse?

If I'm wrong about her being a character, that's okay...she's not reading and responding to _anything_ that has been said...just rant after rant after rant.

That's what I'm enjoying.

She doesn't even take the praise...she just goes from delivering her one dimensional speech to saying "suck my dick" and back to the one dimensional speech.

If she actually cared about what she was saying, she'd quickly see that ILM is FILLED with obscure music threads. She might even enjoy them. Who knows, maybe she could become like the female Geir or something, always chiming in with one or two points thread after thread.

The character is brilliant. The people taking it seriously are part of the act. One can't exist w/o the other...

But deej, remind us again to stay out of the 50 Cent threads with our "50 Cent sucks" responses...because your response here equals that (albeit, with good intentions...just without thorough actions to support those intentions).

Hopefully you know I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, but there is another side you seem to refuse to look at in this.

OR - She is a crazy person, and we are picking on a crazy person. But she said she wasn't crazy. She said all the people on the internet are crazy!

It's a character. Enjoy it. Be part of it or leave it alone.

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 01:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

Men don't give me attention no matter what I do...

Gulp...erm... I think we're getting somewhere...

Frogm@n Henry, Wednesday, 3 August 2005 01:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

some americans appreciate me, and people from the u.k. but my main focus is not going to be them, as I am writing some music in different languages.
...right now....
and it doesn't sound americana.
I am still going to have my music available to some Americans, and people from the U.K...but I just want to be bothering with people who keep comparing me to famous people.
I am tired of people comparing me with people who are famous.
I have nothing to do with these people and right now no help to do anything that I am doing.
since the music scene is dead..alot of people are acting dead...they are not alive and excited about music, because our educators are not teaching children to appreciate music.

marissa marchant, Wednesday, 3 August 2005 01:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

some americans appreciate me, and people from the u.k. but my main focus is not going to be them, as I am writing some music in different languages.
...right now....
and it doesn't sound americana.
I am still going to have my music available to some Americans, and people from the U.K...but I just don't want to be bothering with people who keep comparing me to famous people.
I am tired of people comparing me with people who are famous.
I have nothing to do with these people and right now no help to do anything that I am doing.
since the music scene is dead..alot of people are acting dead...they are not alive and excited about music, because our educators are not teaching children to appreciate music.

marissa marchant, Wednesday, 3 August 2005 01:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

Can you blame people for comparing you to famous people when, as you said, that's all most people are exposed to as a result of the fascist state/industry control on music? If people have no other mode of comparison, they can't really help it.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 01:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

SEE. SEE.

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 01:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

literally, I don't really sound like anyone.
Of course, there are some little things here and there that are like different people..but all and in all, I am not like any other artist.
not really. I don't sound like anyone in the music biz.
It is good to be unique..
I don't want to clone, maybe i want to be a clown...ahahahhahahha

marissa marchant, Wednesday, 3 August 2005 02:03 (9 years ago) Permalink

I've noticed Geir Hongro's gone. I think we have a potential replacement. That's all I'll leave on this thread.

Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 02:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

Jmeister wrote a comment I wanted to respond to..I am reading most of the letters...
Jmeister is a sensitive creature.
they are aware of their surroundings.
they are aware that the president is not that hip, that MTV is fake and that reality t.v sucks.
They are in touch with the real world. congradulations Jmeister.
Our president doesn't care about our culture.
He just love texan culture, whatever that is, loving money that is.

marissa marchant, Wednesday, 3 August 2005 02:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

PapaWheelie, unless you mean "she's a character" in the sense that we're all characters, then you're wrong. On the evidence, Marissa's a person & she is roughly "like" her net persona. To speak unkindly to her is, yes, the same as speaking unkindly to someone's face. Deej is on the money. This thread is mainly kids seeing one of their own with a broken limb & stomping on the limb repeatedly, presumably to prove to themselves that they themselves aren't lame.

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 02:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

Well, if you know for a fact that this person actually exists, then I am wrong about this "character" business.

But still, she isn't responding to what's being said by people here. She's using this as a platform to say the same thing she's famous for saying (i.e. the current state of the music and entertainment industry sucks, and her music is made BY A VIRTUOSO, therefore is worth $1000 per CD).

The whole thing is a joke to me. I like the joke. Some people on this thread are asses (ILM has asses - shockah), and some weren't. She hasn't ackowledged much of either. Just ranting. Unprompted.

Now I'm making the same points over an over.

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 02:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

And I do feel these points I made are overlooked in this debate to get to the bottom:

She doesn't even take the praise...she just goes from delivering her one dimensional speech to saying "suck my dick" and back to the one dimensional speech.

If she actually cared about what she was saying (ie prasing those who like obscure music), she'd quickly see that ILM is FILLED with obscure music threads.

The bottom line: she's either a character, or incredibly negative and obstanate person (possibly crazy, yes). All while some (many) ILM'rs are assholes.

I'm at least trying to make sense of it rather than taking sides while ignoring everything on the table.

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 02:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

One thing you have to understand. I am NOT the underdog.
I have a expensive home studio, I have original ideas.
I am not lacking in imagination.
I don't have a broken limb.
There is nothing wrong with ME.
The people who are signed are Underdogs..that is why they are signed.
They take the people who really don't have originality or creativity that can make for a lasting career. They are losing millions of dollars a year, they laid off thousands at Sony.
/they were just sued for paying some radio stations to play their music.
They are the only people with a broken limb. You should feel sorry for people who have NO soul.
People who lack a soul, care about image, looks and skin colours, and nose shapes..and nationalities, rather then hearts, souls and orginality. I am not a person who is losing. I hear original music everyday. But the public is losing, because they are finding it harder and harder to find anything that is original.
But if the kids never heard oldies and classical music etc..it would be all fresh to them.
I have a fifty thousand dollar studio in my house..I don't have an easy life at all...and tomorrow I am back to work..no time for the net. But my dislike for people who are not opened to anything outside the walls of the media, sort of disurb me.
You go off on these subjects that make no sense. I am Marissa Marchant.
I am saying the same thing here as I am on my gig section. that should tell that I am Marissa. and I am not afraid to tell people to suck my dick..because I don't have a dick.
ahahhahahah.
but I do have more of dick then most men I meet.
Men are so weak and frail these days.
I am not weak and frail...I am handling being mocked and abused for years...
I can handle it..the question is...I can do better then to expose my music and heart to filth...
but

marissa marchant, Wednesday, 3 August 2005 03:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

Say what you want people, I maintain...classic!

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 03:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

it's kind of, you know, repetitive.

Clay (cws), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 03:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

i think some people on this board work for the music industry.
they try to counteract anything that is against them..or seemingly insulting to them.
I really think your number is up...the jig is up...you have been found out, they pay people to come on these boards..Instead of investing in artists, they pay people to protect their agenda against artists and unique artists.

marissa marchant, Wednesday, 3 August 2005 03:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

Ned Raggett is actually Tommy Mottola.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 03:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

It's proved profitable.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 03:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

Tommy Googola

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 03:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

"Heavens! I payola you now."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 03:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yeah Ned, where is my check for monitoring the entire interweb and holding down the quality artists?

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 03:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

Enough outta you, ya mook. You want I should mess you up?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 03:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

I really think your number is up

Apparantly, she's right!

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 03:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

god damnit, i go out for a few hours and this continues. i was really praying that our little artiste had off'ed herself, sylvia plath style...

"No passion, no romance..no beauty.
we are living in such a bland time in history."

yeah, tell that to the fucking serf 600 years ago whose life consisted of starving to death while he tried to farm unfertile land and dodge the plauge.

plenty of people live passionate, romantic lives now. most of them have either money or talent. you and i have neither. at least im not bitching about it you fucking slag. go choke down a bottle of unisom.

Give me a fucking break, Wednesday, 3 August 2005 03:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

"this apathetic attitude about musicians and artists."

i mean, my god, how STUPID are you? speaking of myself, do you know how many hours i spend reading obscure books or how much disposable income i spend on music or literature? or just how many people are just like me in this respect? sometimes i think finding some new work to appreciate is one of the only things to truly live for. and what makes me different from you? I REALIZE IM NOT ALONE! im one in a fucking million snobs, give or take a thousand! you, my delusional cow, are the epitome of everything i ever hear in conversation i despise.

ohh the government/corporation is keeping us down! god how boring. BORING BORING BORING. its always been that way, and always will be. but dont say people are apathetic about art, because we aren't. we are apathetic about the bland gasps and pathetic postures you call music.

Give me a fucking break, Wednesday, 3 August 2005 04:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

Pappa, I think you've missed earlier discussions.
I actually interviewed the March back here almost a year ago.
She's also over here.

Hi Marissa.
I hope things are okay with you.
Why don't you do a gig somewhere? If you did, I'd come and so would a lot of other people. I can't speak for them, but I'd pay a small cover charge to see you play and promise to be respectful. I still occasionally listen to your music. Try not to care so much about what other people think about you; it tends to be counterproductive.
Anyway, best of luck. Let us know when you're playing live in NYC.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 04:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeah, tell that to the fucking serf 600 years ago whose life consisted of starving to death while he tried to farm unfertile land and dodge the plauge

Time motherfucking machine - BOOOOOOOYAAAAA!

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 11:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

John, I've seen both of those links. Nothing different...

I am a Marissa fan. She is entertaining on many levels.

The conflicting logic alone is the ubiquitous feature, and people take the bait she lays out. They are part of the act that I am entertained by.

What's the debate? Some boo-hoo about the nature of this thread, yet don't seem to understand the nature of this thread. That is what I've been addressing.

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

"I am going to change my stage name to rid myself of filth and apathetic idiots who worship mindless divel, rerun movies, reality shows and candy coated sap pop stars.
thanks for your support, but I don't' give a fuck...
FUCK OFF...."

wow! watch out, yr approaching Billy Corgan-esque levels of self-importance, here...

it's a nice idea, hopefully a contagious one. alas, this is not be, mainly due to the fact that people LOVELOVELOVE 'rehash'. if it's a challenge to understand or makes people think 'hard', it get the nay-no, mah daimie.

i'm not frail! i'm just undernourished...

this thread is begining to take over the DMB place as most-awesome-est thread i've been privy to witness!

eedd, Wednesday, 3 August 2005 15:31 (9 years ago) Permalink


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